Do you avoid some games because of racism?

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Quote from: Agbamoni on March 08, 2024, 03:26:19 AM

Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Racism is a really strong action that is being tackled and corrected in the world. I don't know how often this kind of thing happen but I think every coach or referee are strictly discipline to the fact and notice that everyone is the same and no bias nature of anything possible outcome in the match. Referee are the last line of defending and reffing the game because their simple action can change the whole entire outcome of the league winners.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on March 08, 2024, 03:26:19 AM

Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Could you give some actual specific examples or is all you're doing based on speculation? I haven't seen any referee giving off signals they are making decisions based on racism and how would you even judge that? There are so many divers and drama queens in football these days the ref has a tough enough decision without being clouded by other things. Why would it be limited to race? Maybe the VAR ref supports a certain team or wants to see another fail? The decisions they make are ultimately backed up with visual evidence and staying within the rules, if they keep failing consistently then they will lose their job long term.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on April 19, 2024, 07:17:30 AM

I don't think @OP mean racism is about skin color, but it's more like to nationally or teams. If skin color is the problem, there will be a lot discussion about that, but I had never heard about about such case.

Actually it also happen on well-known leagues, surprisingly the referee didn't get any sanctions and still become referees in top leagues.

Neymar's rainbow flick is one of the example. there's nothing wrong with that, but since English players can't do that, they ban rainbow flick and give yellow cards for anyone that do that.

I agree with you that OP is not trying to talk about the color of a player or team instead the OP is trying to talk about the team of a country or league or something like that as it is not about a person there is nothing wrong with the op.

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Quote from: shivansps on April 19, 2024, 06:30:29 AM

I can hardly imagine that there could be a different result due to the color of a player's skin. The fact is that many people from all over the world follow the matches very closely. I’m now talking about well-known leagues, for example in football. So, because of one such mistake, a judge or his assistant may lose his job forever and a huge scandal may result.
I cannot say that this has never happened or will not happen, but I can say that I do not know of such cases. Maybe somewhere in the regional leagues

I don't think @OP mean racism is about skin color, but it's more like to nationally or teams. If skin color is the problem, there will be a lot discussion about that, but I had never heard about about such case.

Actually it also happen on well-known leagues, surprisingly the referee didn't get any sanctions and still become referees in top leagues.

Neymar's rainbow flick is one of the example. there's nothing wrong with that, but since English players can't do that, they ban rainbow flick and give yellow cards for anyone that do that.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on March 08, 2024, 03:26:19 AM

Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

I can hardly imagine that there could be a different result due to the color of a player's skin. The fact is that many people from all over the world follow the matches very closely. I’m now talking about well-known leagues, for example in football. So, because of one such mistake, a judge or his assistant may lose his job forever and a huge scandal may result.
I cannot say that this has never happened or will not happen, but I can say that I do not know of such cases. Maybe somewhere in the regional leagues

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Quote from: Aanuoluwatofunmi on April 16, 2024, 11:57:36 AM

With my many years of gambling, i don't think there is any bet, sport event or any game in which accept the application of racism in it, if it ever happened then people will kicked against such because its out of the context for the reason why we should gamble for fun, gambling brings the people together in friendliness, its not something that should be done with partiality and not be fair in making judgment about it, not to even talk of now that we make use of many sophisticated technologies in making sure that everything went on as expected in gambling or sports.

You meant "fair"? Yes, I agree with you. It becomes harder and harder nowadays to pass an unfair judgement based on your own prejudices. If anything like that happens in the games of high level, with modern technologies it will be spotted right away. In the games of lower level, however, held in some rural areas, things like this can happen without being spotted. But it becomes less and less often these days thanks to technological advancements.

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Quote from: Taskford on April 14, 2024, 08:03:50 AM

On some case that this kind of action happening on certain games then provably I will avoid them because on that way I will show my protest and support to boycott those sports betting options out there so that they will be alerted that there's a lot of people doesn't like the actions they have done. Maybe this cases happen since some of those officials have a team they support on that's why maybe there's a manipulation happening that's why if this issue happen for sure we can't see any fairness on that match so its better to avoid that trying to risk and tolerate all the action they do since in long run a lot of gambler or people involve on that match will suffer.

I think that not only you, but that we all have to boycott things or manifestations of racism, whether here in the Apostases, whether at any level, it is not possible that at this point in life we are thinking about this type of racism things , where basically things do not have to exist anymore, if this existed it should not exist anymore, I think that sometimes not even in sporting events it should not generate any type of pride that represents this type of events.

I think a lot can be done, from now on bitconitalk, if people raise their voices and this goes in several directions, something very big can be done with this type of thing

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With my many years of gambling, i don't think there is any bet, sport event or any game in which accept the application of racism in it, if it ever happened then people will kicked against such because its out of the context for the reason why we should gamble for fun, gambling brings the people together in friendliness, its not something that should be done with partiality and not be fair in making judgment about it, not to even talk of now that we make use of many sophisticated technologies in making sure that everything went on as expected in gambling or sports.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on March 08, 2024, 03:26:19 AM

Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Maybe if my only pursuit is to have fun playing gambling, I won't pay attention to that, and I don't care about that. For others, they might be really spoiled; who would want that?
And that kind of attitude is not really good, honestly speaking.

Who would want the referee to favor someone, as if the result is that someone took sides or was favored, so the other one lost? That's what I see.

I think those things only happen in small leagues but I really it can be done in professional leagues as different races become a part of the committee and I am sure they will be against it so there will be a punishment for officials who would use that kind of strategy.

I don't pay attention to this kind of thing too because I have not really seen something like racism happen yet. Also, most popular betting sites don't add small leagues in their sports lists so there's no way to make a bet for it unless it is happening in your local and there's a sports bookie who are always present whenever a match will happen.

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Do you avoid some games because of racism? No and I never heard about racism in gambling I mean I only play online gambling but didn't found case about racism. Just advice if you wanna play just play and don't think about other thing if you like it just play it as simple as that tho this is just a personal opinion from me

Tho racism in a chat maybe there is one or two people but I really avoid gambling chat hahah

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Quote from: rodskee on April 14, 2024, 09:16:23 AM

yups , that is happening when the gambler is a sports fan as they are more
concern about the team success than their bets.referee takes big part in each
games and money is nothing if we are enjoying the game.

The referee who leads the match should make the match is a good entertain and will not doing something that can ruins their reputations.

That is what we wanted to happen that the referee will act towards the betterment of the
game and its result but the problem is that do the thing happened as this? because we knew that
there are anomaly in sports for how many years now so eb aware of those chances of being rigged.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on March 08, 2024, 03:26:19 AM

Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Maybe i live in the bubble when i haven't even heard about referees being racists ever, but i guess that's a possibility, as why would referees live outside of that issue. But i have to wonder that how would that be combatted against, apart from racism awareness. Because referees make mistakes all the time in nordic countries, and because we have been traditionally white, no one has even thought about racism. So proving that some referee's actions were racist, would either be hard to prove and most likely matter of confirmation bias, or statistically obvious racism.

And now teams can be multiracial mixes of every ethnicity, so referees would need to be against individual players, and people would notice that even easier.

Being a referee is sort of honor system and if someone was suspected of playing favors or being against someone, they wouldn't work much as referees in the future. Not at least in here.

As a white man, it's quite hard to see that, as we aren't wired to notice continuous unequality towards others. When it's suddle enough.

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To some extent, I understand the concerns some people feel about racism in gaming and its impact on sports betting. It is true that cases of racism during matches can be a source of distrust in betting results. There are many aspects to consider when you want to bet on a game. One such aspect is whether there will be transparency and honesty in the game. If you feel racism or manipulation of any kind will occur, it may not be wise to place your bets on the match.

At the same time, refusing to participate in some games for fear of racism or manipulation also raises questions about the ethics of our relationship with sport. Is it better to avoid matches that may be prone to racism, or is it better not to disengage from efforts and struggles to challenge and fight racism in sport?

In situations like this, it is quite important for us to always maintain our sanity and common sense, namely by always considering all the impacts of the decisions we will take. So that we will be part of the people who always maintain the integrity of sports, and play a role in overcoming the problem of racism in sports.

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Quote from: bettercrypto on April 11, 2024, 11:55:28 AM

Maybe if my only pursuit is to have fun playing gambling, I won't pay attention to that, and I don't care about that. For others, they might be really spoiled; who would want that?
And that kind of attitude is not really good, honestly speaking.

Who would want the referee to favor someone, as if the result is that someone took sides or was favored, so the other one lost? That's what I see.

I will not play a game where the competition is unfair, because it shows that the opponent being helped does not have the ability to win on his own so he only relies on help to win and beat others in that game. And to be honest, the party who wins because of help must also be ashamed that it was not because of his skill and the prize he received was also not from clean results. So I'm sure everyone probably won't like a game like that because it's really dirty.

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Quote from: uneng on April 14, 2024, 09:27:52 AM

Racism, which can be translated into lack of fairness in sports, can be a big issue for gamblers when placing their bets, because it means the games are being fixed and manipulated somehow. The gambler can do the most accurate analysis of the incoming match, but if a manipulation happens during the game by the referee or VAR, then it will completely compromise his bet. Therefore, I think it's a wise decision to avoid leagues and matches which are prone to be manipulated, as it increases the chances the games aren't going to have legit outcomes.

but once the bet has been placed it will not be able to change anything that happens when there is racism or cheating by the referee. The result of the match will determine whether we win or lose.
I wouldn't think too much about it. only bet on teams that I know their strengths. maybe become a little fanatical when betting on a team where we are fans. but we should pay attention to the chances of winning from the bets we make.

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Quote from: rodskee on April 14, 2024, 09:16:23 AM

yups , that is happening when the gambler is a sports fan as they are more
concern about the team success than their bets.referee takes big part in each
games and money is nothing if we are enjoying the game.

We should knows what we wants to choose, whether if the referee can't fairs enough or cheats for every team. It's better we don't thinks too serious about the match and place the bets if we wants. For those who are fans of the team can watch their favorite team play against the other team. We can only hopes that the referee will be fair enough with all teams so the match can run smoothly without any problems from the referee or others.

The referee who leads the match should make the match is a good entertain and will not doing something that can ruins their reputations.

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Quote from: 348Judah on April 11, 2024, 10:27:38 AM

Quote from: Agbamoni on March 08, 2024, 03:26:19 AM

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Lack of fairness may be found in all part of sporting activities and we cannot avoid that because people have their own different ways of judging a situation, this will make me not to buy the idea of accepting that racism exist in the VAR system, because the way you may judge can be totally different from how others may do theirs, we have the way everyone sees and reason things to be different from each other, if there have been racism in the VAR system, maybe many would have been discouraged in them because of lack of fairness, but such does not exist.

Racism, which can be translated into lack of fairness in sports, can be a big issue for gamblers when placing their bets, because it means the games are being fixed and manipulated somehow. The gambler can do the most accurate analysis of the incoming match, but if a manipulation happens during the game by the referee or VAR, then it will completely compromise his bet. Therefore, I think it's a wise decision to avoid leagues and matches which are prone to be manipulated, as it increases the chances the games aren't going to have legit outcomes.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on April 14, 2024, 07:52:50 AM

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Quote from: Agbamoni on March 08, 2024, 03:26:19 AM

Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Maybe if my only pursuit is to have fun playing gambling, I won't pay attention to that, and I don't care about that. For others, they might be really spoiled; who would want that?
And that kind of attitude is not really good, honestly speaking.

Who would want the referee to favor someone, as if the result is that someone took sides or was favored, so the other one lost? That's what I see.

No one will place their bet if the situation and condition is like that. They wants to see the match is fair and lead by the referee so they will satisfy when they watch the match. We can place the bet without thinks about the referee or else because we wants to have fun and enjoy the match.

yups , that is happening when the gambler is a sports fan as they are more
concern about the team success than their bets.referee takes big part in each
games and money is nothing if we are enjoying the game.

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Besides that, we will not knows if the match is fair or not and we can just place the bets. That's only if we wants to place the bet but many people doesn't wants to see if the match is not fair. As long as someone doesn't thinks much about the fairness or the referee favor someone or else, that will not be a problem. Every gambler will knows what they should do and where they can place the bets so they will do something if they knows that the referee favor someone.

well gambling and sports are taking part of those mate and the best way to deal
with this ? is to enjoy and to have fun each bets.

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Quote from: 348Judah on April 11, 2024, 10:27:38 AM

Quote from: Agbamoni on March 08, 2024, 03:26:19 AM

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Lack of fairness may be found in all part of sporting activities and we cannot avoid that because people have their own different ways of judging a situation, this will make me not to buy the idea of accepting that racism exist in the VAR system, because the way you may judge can be totally different from how others may do theirs, we have the way everyone sees and reason things to be different from each other, if there have been racism in the VAR system, maybe many would have been discouraged in them because of lack of fairness, but such does not exist.

Look, saying racism doesnt exist in VAR just because we see things differently? Thats weak. Its ignoring the problem. People have different views, sure, but that doesnt mean there's no such thing as bias built into the system. Saying "everyone sees it their own way" is a cop-out. Check the numbers, read the studies - they scream that there's a fairness problem. We cant hide behind opinions, we need facts. We need to be honest, dig deep, and fix this. True fairness means facing the possibility that the system itself is flawed.

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Quote from: adpinbr on April 10, 2024, 06:51:33 AM

Well, you are right on your statement and your topic but I would like us to talk about the winning aspect of it in football. why is the club always winning it seems that home club have more advantage even in prediction you will see that Hometown always have more chance of winning and people always play home win I really want to understand why it’s like a statement that was made the same question, but will be more clarification on this home winning it will be more understanding do it’s not all the time that the whole wins even when the prediction is to the fever but it’s always happen and the prediction usually work let’s see it is 70/30 if I am to guess on it.

Let me make it very clear to you. When they mean by home advantage it doesn't mean that any team at Home is 100% guaranteed to win the match. It doesn't happen like that in all games. But there is a higher chance to win the game this is because that is their own football training peach. It is believed that they have mastered every corner of the peach, and they are more familiar on how games are played on the peach more than their opposing teams. It's nothing but a phycological thing in football.

Another, thing is that the fans and their cheer up also helps a lot when they are at Home. Statistically when playing at home there are more fans to watch and cheer the game more than the number of fans that are present to cheer the opposing team.

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