FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread - page 231.

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Quote from: W Jr. on January 04, 2023, 01:28:57 AM

Packages will definitely be created for these and sales will be made in packages. I think Fifa has definitely worked on this issue. Even though Fifa doesn't, the host countries should adjust it. Matches can be played in cities that are close to each other, or group matches can be played in one country. All of the teams that make the rounds in the group matches can be gathered in one country. This could be the USA. Thus, a 2 country visa may be sufficient. There will definitely be a fix for this issue.

If the FIFA has a simple system in place, then it will be good. What I don't want is fans getting their travel plans cancelled at the last minute, because the American embassy will not issue them a tourist visa. I know how hard it is to get a tourist visa for the United States, and I have seen multiple occasions of visa applications getting rejected after many months of waiting. I don't know much about the visa requirements for Canada and Mexico, but I guess the situation is much better that what they have in the United States.

The USA visa problem is well known and I'm sure FIFA is well aware of that. I don't know how will they work it out but it's definitely unacceptable that someone has to wait visa for several months and then purchase a ticket for the World Cup.

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Quote from: W Jr. on January 04, 2023, 01:28:57 AM

Packages will definitely be created for these and sales will be made in packages. I think Fifa has definitely worked on this issue. Even though Fifa doesn't, the host countries should adjust it. Matches can be played in cities that are close to each other, or group matches can be played in one country. All of the teams that make the rounds in the group matches can be gathered in one country. This could be the USA. Thus, a 2 country visa may be sufficient. There will definitely be a fix for this issue.

If the FIFA has a simple system in place, then it will be good. What I don't want is fans getting their travel plans cancelled at the last minute, because the American embassy will not issue them a tourist visa. I know how hard it is to get a tourist visa for the United States, and I have seen multiple occasions of visa applications getting rejected after many months of waiting. I don't know much about the visa requirements for Canada and Mexico, but I guess the situation is much better that what they have in the United States.

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Quote from: nullama on January 04, 2023, 01:19:31 AM

Quote from: W Jr. on January 04, 2023, 01:12:49 AM

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The majority of matches will be played in the USA. I know Mexico and Canada will host very few games. I don't know if such an application has been made in the world cups before, but such applications have been made in the European cups. It can be tiring for the fans, of course, but it can also be enjoyable. Different countries, different cultures and different places to visit can be seen.

Yeah, Korea-Japan 2002.

It can be tiring for the fans, but also it increases the price of the stay. You would need to buy 2 extra international flights, on top of the one from wherever you live to the world cup.

That's quite a lot really. Plus you need to secure the visas for 3 countries instead of just 1.

Packages will definitely be created for these and sales will be made in packages. I think Fifa has definitely worked on this issue. Even though Fifa doesn't, the host countries should adjust it. Matches can be played in cities that are close to each other, or group matches can be played in one country. All of the teams that make the rounds in the group matches can be gathered in one country. This could be the USA. Thus, a 2 country visa may be sufficient. There will definitely be a fix for this issue.

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Quote from: W Jr. on January 04, 2023, 01:12:49 AM

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The majority of matches will be played in the USA. I know Mexico and Canada will host very few games. I don't know if such an application has been made in the world cups before, but such applications have been made in the European cups. It can be tiring for the fans, of course, but it can also be enjoyable. Different countries, different cultures and different places to visit can be seen.

Yeah, Korea-Japan 2002.

It can be tiring for the fans, but also it increases the price of the stay. You would need to buy 2 extra international flights, on top of the one from wherever you live to the world cup.

That's quite a lot really. Plus you need to secure the visas for 3 countries instead of just 1.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 04, 2023, 01:06:38 AM

^^^ One thing that I liked about Qatar 2022 is that it was quite easy for the fans to travel from one location to the other. Qatar also has a relaxed visa regimen, which helped a lot of football fans. On the other hand, getting a US visa is a really tough job and I just hope that the government would relax the requirements for global fans. Also, staging in three different countries, which are thousands of kilometers apart sounds like a bad idea for me. Given the extended duration for the next edition, it will only result in fatigue and exhaustion for the fans.

I think the USA will do some work on the World Cup. In addition, there may be a lot of people who want to go to the world cup as fans and stay in the USA, they can make changes in visa conditions to prevent them. I observed Qatar as a good host. The stadiums were very good, the matches were really exciting. Moreover, Messi is the champion, what more could I ask for.

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Quote from: Wakate on January 03, 2023, 06:33:02 PM

Quote from: W Jr. on January 03, 2023, 02:58:25 AM

It will be the world cup with significant changes. More teams participating means a more exciting tournament. In addition, the duration of the tournament will naturally be extended. I'm sure it will be more enjoyable when you think about it from this angle. It may become more enjoyable if surprise results such as the 2022 World Cup are obtained. I am already looking forward to the tournament in 4 years.

You mean it will be more enjoyable? Do you mean we are not contented with the ones we had been watching?
Just imagine the stress you will have to face when you need to go to different countries just to watch the world cup live in the stadium. This is not an enjoyment for me but a big stress to fans having to move from the current country where they had been watch the world cup match then moving to a new country to continue there football adventure. It really not nice and this looks like the first time we are seeing this kind of multiple countries hosting the world cup.

The majority of matches will be played in the USA. I know Mexico and Canada will host very few games. I don't know if such an application has been made in the world cups before, but such applications have been made in the European cups. It can be tiring for the fans, of course, but it can also be enjoyable. Different countries, different cultures and different places to visit can be seen.

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^^^ One thing that I liked about Qatar 2022 is that it was quite easy for the fans to travel from one location to the other. Qatar also has a relaxed visa regimen, which helped a lot of football fans. On the other hand, getting a US visa is a really tough job and I just hope that the government would relax the requirements for global fans. Also, staging in three different countries, which are thousands of kilometers apart sounds like a bad idea for me. Given the extended duration for the next edition, it will only result in fatigue and exhaustion for the fans.

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Quote from: Wakate on January 03, 2023, 06:33:02 PM

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You mean it will be more enjoyable? Do you mean we are not contented with the ones we had been watching?
Just imagine the stress you will have to face when you need to go to different countries just to watch the world cup live in the stadium. This is not an enjoyment for me but a big stress to fans having to move from the current country where they had been watch the world cup match then moving to a new country to continue there football adventure. It really not nice and this looks like the first time we are seeing this kind of multiple countries hosting the world cup.

It's not the first time we have a world cup hosted in more than one country. For example, Korea-Japan 2002

That ended up with Brazil as the winner, and it was the last time the Golden Goal rule was used. Glad they removed that.

But yeah, I agree that it adds more trouble for the people having to fly around to other countries, there might be passport or visa issues, plus with covid we now might have other restrictions, etc.

Much simpler to host it in one country.

Also, the level of preparation and coordination is really hard for one country, imagine doing it in three countries, it will be a logistical nightmare. Also, most games are played in the US only any way, so not sure why they wanted to add the other 2 countries.

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Quote from: slackovic on January 03, 2023, 03:46:36 AM

Yeah, but in this new format we will have all those teams and about 10 more (I don't know exactly how many more teams will qualify) that will play even worse than those you mentioned. That's why I don't like the new format. I mentioned Qatar not because they went trough the qualifications but because we will have more games like those we got from Qatar.

This is where I disagree with you. You are assuming that these new teams would automatically be incompetent. I don't agree with that assumption. From what we have seen in FIFA 2022, the most incompetent teams were the ones who finished on top of the qualifying tournaments. Remember the time when North Korea participated in the world cup? They were involved in very competitive matches against Brazil and Ivory Cost, and they added a lot of excitement to the tournament back then. And at that point, their FIFA ranking was 108 or something.

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Quote from: W Jr. on January 03, 2023, 02:58:25 AM

It will be the world cup with significant changes. More teams participating means a more exciting tournament. In addition, the duration of the tournament will naturally be extended. I'm sure it will be more enjoyable when you think about it from this angle. It may become more enjoyable if surprise results such as the 2022 World Cup are obtained. I am already looking forward to the tournament in 4 years.

You mean it will be more enjoyable? Do you mean we are not contented with the ones we had been watching?
Just imagine the stress you will have to face when you need to go to different countries just to watch the world cup live in the stadium. This is not an enjoyment for me but a big stress to fans having to move from the current country where they had been watch the world cup match then moving to a new country to continue there football adventure. It really not nice and this looks like the first time we are seeing this kind of multiple countries hosting the world cup.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 02, 2023, 11:10:16 PM

Initially the FIFA was planning for a 40 team competition. This was the plan proposed by the then FIFA Gianni Infantino (March 2016). The decision to expand the world cup to 48 teams was taken by the FIFA Council on 2017. But I am not sure about the total number of matches. Initially they were planning for 80, with 3 teams each in 16 groups. But now the format has changed, and there will be 4 teams in each of the 12 groups. So the total number of matches are going to go up to 104. Finalists will play a total of 8 matches.

I have found out 3 teams will play in each group from 16 groups there will be 32 teams in the next knockout round. I don't know why FIFA has to do this in this world cup, but a knockout stage with 32 teams and teams in the group stages only having to play 2 matches before getting out of the tournament or the next round doesn't seem fair enough to me. All the countries, fans and players wait for that event, but their fate is decided in only two matches.

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Quote from: W Jr. on January 03, 2023, 02:58:25 AM

It will be the world cup with significant changes. More teams participating means a more exciting tournament. In addition, the duration of the tournament will naturally be extended. I'm sure it will be more enjoyable when you think about it from this angle. It may become more enjoyable if surprise results such as the 2022 World Cup are obtained. I am already looking forward to the tournament in 4 years.

I thought fifa wanted Asia country to host the 2026 world cup. It will be fine and fair to all, as the extension of number of participation increases. More countries that haven't participated in world before would have the opportunity to play in the world cup. I love the development by fifa

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 03, 2023, 03:42:56 AM

Quote from: slackovic on January 03, 2023, 03:27:09 AM

You don't agree that more nations in the World Cup will only bring more lousy games? Did you watch Qatar games in the last World Cup? It was a joke and I felt sorry for the players that played for Qatar. That kind of games will be more often when there are more teams in the World Cup. I don't have any problem in more African nations playing in the Wirld Cup but not if they can't play against stronger teams that have history playing in the World Cup. Even with the format that was in the last World Cup there were some lousy games. What's the point in having games where one team beat other by 3, 4 or more goal difference?

You are talking about something that is completely different. Qatar qualified not through the proper channels, but because of being hosts. Australia was the 5th team from AFC (qualified for the world cup after defeating Peru in playoffs) and United Arab Emirates was the team that was ranked 6th (failed to qualify). And I don't think that the 2022 format was different from the last 4-5 editions. The most one-sided match in Qatar involved Iran (who lost to England by a margin of 2-6) and they would have qualified for the World Cup even if it was a 16-team competition. Because they finished the AFC qualifiers as the no.1 ranked team.

Yeah, but in this new format we will have all those teams and about 10 more (I don't know exactly how many more teams will qualify) that will play even worse than those you mentioned. That's why I don't like the new format. I mentioned Qatar not because they went trough the qualifications but because we will have more games like those we got from Qatar.

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Quote from: slackovic on January 03, 2023, 03:27:09 AM

You don't agree that more nations in the World Cup will only bring more lousy games? Did you watch Qatar games in the last World Cup? It was a joke and I felt sorry for the players that played for Qatar. That kind of games will be more often when there are more teams in the World Cup. I don't have any problem in more African nations playing in the Wirld Cup but not if they can't play against stronger teams that have history playing in the World Cup. Even with the format that was in the last World Cup there were some lousy games. What's the point in having games where one team beat other by 3, 4 or more goal difference?

You are talking about something that is completely different. Qatar qualified not through the proper channels, but because of being hosts. Australia was the 5th team from AFC (qualified for the world cup after defeating Peru in playoffs) and United Arab Emirates was the team that was ranked 6th (failed to qualify). And I don't think that the 2022 format was different from the last 4-5 editions. The most one-sided match in Qatar involved Iran (who lost to England by a margin of 2-6) and they would have qualified for the World Cup even if it was a 16-team competition. Because they finished the AFC qualifiers as the no.1 ranked team.

These are the other one-sided matches:

Portugal vs Switzerland (6-1)
Spain vs Costa Rica (7-0)

Out of these three matches and 6 teams, only Costa Rica can be considered as a "fringe" team.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 03, 2023, 03:20:33 AM

Quote from: slackovic on January 03, 2023, 02:51:55 AM

They decided to change the format to slightly different from what Infantino proposed because if there were only three teams in a group, there are more chance for two teams to make an silent agreement to help each other to pass the group stage. The proposed format was that all groups consist of three teams and that two of them advance to the next round.

Personally I don't like the fact that there will be more teams in the next World Cup. What's the point to bring more teams to the World Cup? It will result in more poor games that will be unwatchable just like it was with games when Qatar played in this World Cup. It's nonsense to me...

Agreed with the first part of your post, but not with the second.

Groups of 3 teams make no sense. Even if there is no secret pact between two of the teams, such small groups will take away the excitement of teams gradually progressing to the knockout phase. Just two matches in the group phase? There is no logic here. They can make the teams play against the other two teams twice, but then it will make the tournament extremely lengthy.

Now coming to the addition in number of participants - I am a big supporter of the expansion. In fact I would actually go for 64 teams (16 groups of 4 teams each). Most exciting matches in Qatar 2022 were involving teams which would have struggled to qualify, such as Morocco, Japan, Cameroon and South Korea. I am sure that we will get a lot more upsets in 2026.

You don't agree that more nations in the World Cup will only bring more lousy games? Did you watch Qatar games in the last World Cup? It was a joke and I felt sorry for the players that played for Qatar. That kind of games will be more often when there are more teams in the World Cup. I don't have any problem in more African nations playing in the Wirld Cup but not if they can't play against stronger teams that have history playing in the World Cup. Even with the format that was in the last World Cup there were some lousy games. What's the point in having games where one team beat other by 3, 4 or more goal difference?

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Quote from: slackovic on January 03, 2023, 02:51:55 AM

They decided to change the format to slightly different from what Infantino proposed because if there were only three teams in a group, there are more chance for two teams to make an silent agreement to help each other to pass the group stage. The proposed format was that all groups consist of three teams and that two of them advance to the next round.

Personally I don't like the fact that there will be more teams in the next World Cup. What's the point to bring more teams to the World Cup? It will result in more poor games that will be unwatchable just like it was with games when Qatar played in this World Cup. It's nonsense to me...

Agreed with the first part of your post, but not with the second.

Groups of 3 teams make no sense. Even if there is no secret pact between two of the teams, such small groups will take away the excitement of teams gradually progressing to the knockout phase. Just two matches in the group phase? There is no logic here. They can make the teams play against the other two teams twice, but then it will make the tournament extremely lengthy.

Now coming to the addition in number of participants - I am a big supporter of the expansion. In fact I would actually go for 64 teams (16 groups of 4 teams each). Most exciting matches in Qatar 2022 were involving teams which would have struggled to qualify, such as Morocco, Japan, Cameroon and South Korea. I am sure that we will get a lot more upsets in 2026.

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South American (CONMEBOL) FIFA World Cup 2026 qualifiers already started with some drama:

As you can see, instead of the usual 4.5 slots, they will now have 6.5 slots, that is 6 teams will directly qualify to the world cup and the 7th place will have to go to the play offs to get a spot.

Interestingly though, you can see that Ecuador starts with -3 points. That's because:

Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_(CONMEBOL)#cite_note-table_hth_ECU0.30860271691745-8

Ecuador were deducted 3 points for falsifying birth documents for Byron Castillo in the previous World Cup qualification cycle.

I find it very strange that FIFA ended up not doing anything for the previous world cup and letting Ecuador play, and only now they say that the player was ineligible.

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It will be the world cup with significant changes. More teams participating means a more exciting tournament. In addition, the duration of the tournament will naturally be extended. I'm sure it will be more enjoyable when you think about it from this angle. It may become more enjoyable if surprise results such as the 2022 World Cup are obtained. I am already looking forward to the tournament in 4 years.

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Key Highlights

1- This will be the first time we will see 48 teams in the tournament, instead of 32.
2- There will be a total of 80 matches to be played in this Fifa world cup.
3- United States will host 60 Matches
4- Canada and Mexico will host 10 matches each.

Is it confirmed that 48 teams will play in WorldCup 26? I heard all this was rumor, but if it happens man this event will not be fun like we had in these past events. A total of 80 match!

Initially the FIFA was planning for a 40 team competition. This was the plan proposed by the then FIFA Gianni Infantino (March 2016). The decision to expand the world cup to 48 teams was taken by the FIFA Council on 2017. But I am not sure about the total number of matches. Initially they were planning for 80, with 3 teams each in 16 groups. But now the format has changed, and there will be 4 teams in each of the 12 groups. So the total number of matches are going to go up to 104. Finalists will play a total of 8 matches.

They decided to change the format to slightly different from what Infantino proposed because if there were only three teams in a group, there are more chance for two teams to make an silent agreement to help each other to pass the group stage. The proposed format was that all groups consist of three teams and that two of them advance to the next round.

Personally I don't like the fact that there will be more teams in the next World Cup. What's the point to bring more teams to the World Cup? It will result in more poor games that will be unwatchable just like it was with games when Qatar played in this World Cup. It's nonsense to me...

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Quote from: Die_empty on January 02, 2023, 10:40:46 PM

Regardless of the challenges, one might expect these host nations to face as they prepare for the world, the outcome would be far better than what was experienced in Qatar. The US, Canada, and Mexico are democratic societies that respect the right of people including immigrants. I don't think the abuse and exploitation of workers would be as high as the Qatari experience.

Qatar is not a football nation, therefore they had to start preparing from the scratch for the world cup. But these triple hosts in North America have enough basic amenities that would make the tournament successful. Most stadiums or other basic amenities might just need renovations to make them meet FIFA standards.

We are also expecting to also have a more fan-friendly WorldCup where fans wouldn't be restricted by cultural and other religious beliefs.

And without a doubt this will make the next world cup the most profitable ever, not only the number of games and the TV rights will influence this, but simply the ability of having a beer at the stadium or being able to enjoy yourself on the street without worrying about being arrested will make the next world cup way more successful, after all there were many fans which boycotted the world cup at Qatar due to the many different issues that presented themselves before and during the world cup.

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