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Topic: NEW🔮ZKasino.io | Fully decentralized casino | $10.000 🎁away | 0.6% | NO KYC - page 2. (Read 429 times)

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What makes your casino fully decentralized?

If you are the owner of the token, the owner of the server, the one who build it, the one who can access to the payments engine... I don't get that fully decentralized idea.

It has been a hard work on your side, and for sure you are expecting profit from it, so, sadly that's not a decentralized project. I will wait for the white paper to understand the full project.

We are not the owner of the token - The DAO is and the token is generated as a 0.3% reward on each bet.
We do not own the servers - The contracts are on chain. We run the website but you don't need the website, we don't control anything.
We are the ones who built it - When the DAO is created they will vote on who will continue to work on the project.
We cannot access the payment engine - There is no payment engine your bets go straight through the contracts, we don't control the payment in any way, shape or form. It is fully decentralized (will be when the DAO is in place)
legendary
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Welcome to bitcointalk Zkasino. Can't wait till you finish the beta testing phase and officially launch your casino. I quite like your personal text, btw  Wink

Bitcoin is going to be an option for deposit and withdrawls. I'm sorry if we weren't clear enough on that. Smiley
Thanks for clarifying this. When I read the OP I got confused and thought something was not right. Because how is it possible to use bitcoin with smart contracts without having something in the middle.
No kyc, non-custodial, 0.6% house edge.. Couldn't ask for more!
legendary
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I've played it for a while now and i like the whole idea a lot. Maybe needs some tweaking and crash game but the fact it's decentralized amd you can earn with ZKAS makes it interesting.

Have i understood correctly that i can't yet earn ZKAS, but this is just a testnet run? If so, when are you going to launch it for real?
legendary
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What makes your casino fully decentralized?

If you are the owner of the token, the owner of the server, the one who build it, the one who can access to the payments engine... I don't get that fully decentralized idea.

It has been a hard work on your side, and for sure you are expecting profit from it, so, sadly that's not a decentralized project. I will wait for the white paper to understand the full project.
hero member
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Welcome to the forum. There's something i see after doing some research about your casino and it will be nice to hear your side of the story.
What's the relationship between ZKasino.io and 4kasino.com

Well, I don't see any connection between these casinos both in terms of design and concept and its implementation. 4kasino.com there are not even social networks and zkasino.io twitter has 10,300 followers.
I know everything you said but if you look at the casino's name you'll see that there are some similarities. We once have an issue on this forum about a casino 1xbxt's where people believe there's a connection between them.
Sounds the same or looks almost the same doesnt automatically means that they've been owned by same owner which means that it isnt a solid indication for such stuff.
You do mean about 1xbet and 1xbit?

Its been clarified about by op that they arent affiliated or connected with the  sites that you had mentioned.So this do clear up those assumptions.

On other hand;

Welcome into this forum Zkasino!
You should consider on running a campaign once you have totally launched the final state.
copper member
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Welcome to the forum. There's something i see after doing some research about your casino and it will be nice to hear your side of the story.
What's the relationship between ZKasino.io and 4kasino.com

I'm not sure what story you are talking about. Zkasino.io and 4kasino.io have no affiliations, we have never talked to this casino.
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Welcome to the forum. There's something i see after doing some research about your casino and it will be nice to hear your side of the story.
What's the relationship between ZKasino.io and 4kasino.com

Well, I don't see any connection between these casinos both in terms of design and concept and its implementation. 4kasino.com there are not even social networks and zkasino.io twitter has 10,300 followers.
I know everything you said but if you look at the casino's name you'll see that there are some similarities. We once have an issue on this forum about a casino 1xbxt's where people believe there's a connection between them.
legendary
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Welcome to the forum. There's something i see after doing some research about your casino and it will be nice to hear your side of the story.
What's the relationship between ZKasino.io and 4kasino.com

Well, I don't see any connection between these casinos both in terms of design and concept and its implementation. 4kasino.com there are not even social networks and zkasino.io twitter has 10,300 followers.
member
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Welcome to the forum. There's something i see after doing some research about your casino and it will be nice to hear your side of the story.
What's the relationship between ZKasino.io and 4kasino.com
copper member
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He wants this thread here in the Bitcoin gambling section because it will get more attention from gamblers and posters, if the thread is in the altcoin announcement, only investors will post and bump that thread, but if the thread was moved to the altcoin service announcement by the moderators because it deserves to be there and you never mess with the mods, you might end up both of your thread lock and your account restricted.
That's all what i'm pointing out. Now regarding the thread, the site or this thread isn't mentioning of bitcoin as one of its options for deposit or withdrawals so moving to service announcement (altcoins) is the proper board not unless OP wants to add bitcoin option on its platform.
You are doing against the forum rules for duplicate posting, your other previous thread[1] was posted on this board but then moved by mods on altcoin service announcement. So i suggest to lock the other thread and keep this open, or the other way around.

[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/newzkasinoio-fully-decentralized-casino-10000-away-06-no-kyc-5419683

He wants this thread here in the Bitcoin gambling section because it will get more attention from gamblers and posters, if the thread is in the altcoin announcement, only investors will post and bump that thread, but if the thread was moved to the altcoin service announcement by the moderators because it deserves to be there and you never mess with the mods, you might end up both of your thread lock and your account restricted.

You are going to be able to play with Bitcoin. I'm sorry if we weren't clear enough on that. Smiley
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You are doing against the forum rules for duplicate posting, your other previous thread[1] was posted on this board but then moved by mods on altcoin service announcement. So i suggest to lock the other thread and keep this open, or the other way around.

[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/newzkasinoio-fully-decentralized-casino-10000-away-06-no-kyc-5419683

Thank you for the warning, I have locked and deleted the old thread. The other thread was (I believe) wrongly moved because we didn't answer the comments about us not accepting BTC. I sent a message to the moderators to clarify and re-posted it.
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^ This section is the right place for the casino Ann thread.

Thank you Smiley

ZKAS tokens will also be for staking and earning from the profit sharing?  It accept Matic?

I once invested in casino token, the frustration is there when it comes to the volume of it because the team will have trouble getting on the big exchanges. This is an ERC that we can only anticipate to be on Swap platforms. 
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He wants this thread here in the Bitcoin gambling section because it will get more attention from gamblers and posters, if the thread is in the altcoin announcement, only investors will post and bump that thread, but if the thread was moved to the altcoin service announcement by the moderators because it deserves to be there and you never mess with the mods, you might end up both of your thread lock and your account restricted.
That's all what i'm pointing out. Now regarding the thread, the site or this thread isn't mentioning of bitcoin as one of its options for deposit or withdrawals so moving to service announcement (altcoins) is the proper board not unless OP wants to add bitcoin option on its platform.
hero member
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You are doing against the forum rules for duplicate posting, your other previous thread[1] was posted on this board but then moved by mods on altcoin service announcement. So i suggest to lock the other thread and keep this open, or the other way around.

[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/newzkasinoio-fully-decentralized-casino-10000-away-06-no-kyc-5419683

He wants this thread here in the Bitcoin gambling section because it will get more attention from gamblers and posters, if the thread is in the altcoin announcement, only investors will post and bump that thread, but if the thread was moved to the altcoin service announcement by the moderators because it deserves to be there and you never mess with the mods, you might end up both of your thread lock and your account restricted.
hero member
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You are doing against the forum rules for duplicate posting, your other previous thread[1] was posted on this board but then moved by mods on altcoin service announcement. So i suggest to lock the other thread and keep this open, or the other way around.

[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/newzkasinoio-fully-decentralized-casino-10000-away-06-no-kyc-5419683
hero member
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No KYC and no restrictions and respect for privacy. You will really attract more users that way but I hope that you still have plans for those that might see something on your casino and offers that might be abused by them. Anyway, it seems that the new casinos coming out are offering good house rules and it might be a way for you guys to be on a speedy way to the top, hope so. Good luck.
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legendary
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Many casinos promise no KYC only to end up adding them later when players win big or to conform with local authorities.
As a decentralized, trustless, and permissionless casino we could not KYC or ban you even if we wanted to.
Every transaction you do is straight from your wallet, into the contract, and back into your wallet.
We never hold your funds, and there is no possible way for us to control our users with those measures.
First, I would like to say welcome to bitcointalk forum, its indeed a legendary place for every crypto business to be and I hope your casino finds great success here.

My query now is on this part of the Ann i quoted above, when you @OP, say your casino is decentralized, i hope its not Etherdelta, Forkdelta kind of decentralization, because if it actually is, then i am sorry to say that your casino is not decentralized.

Just incase you don't know Etherdelta and their kind of decentralization, Etherdelta was an exchange that claimed to be decentralized but in actual context, it wasn't because after visiting the site and connecting your wallet, it was impossible to start trading immediately until you have deposited funds from your wallet into the exchange wallet which they will provide.

Why i am interested in this aspect of your casino is because, claiming your casino is decentralized will also mean that you don't have control over the games because the games are hosted on the blockchain and not on some server you have control over ..
So are all the games hosted on the blockchain? to prove that ZKasino is truly decentralized?

We are fully decentralized and never in custody of your funds like the examples you mention. All games are hosted on-chain and uou can find contracts for individual games on each network right here
https://docs.zkasino.io/developer/smart-contracts
Wow, this is indeed very impressive, i will be on the lookout for the launching of the main net, if all be good, then i must say that for the first time, we have a casino that is going to be truly kyc free.
Though i still have some other concerns in terms of legal aspect, and also measures put in place to ensure security of user funds, prove to hacking and also measure put in place to deter bad actors from using the casino as a means through which they carry out their nefarious activities such as money laundering etc.

I am not expecting you to address all this right now, it just me thinking out loud, i believe going forward, we will see how things play out and know if those i mentioned above are really concerns that must be addressed or not.

For now, i would say Goodluck with the development of this casino, you are creating something that is very different from others, but also prepare good funds for promotions and marketing - just my 2cent.
 Kiss Kiss
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Many casinos promise no KYC only to end up adding them later when players win big or to conform with local authorities.
As a decentralized, trustless, and permissionless casino we could not KYC or ban you even if we wanted to.
Every transaction you do is straight from your wallet, into the contract, and back into your wallet.
We never hold your funds, and there is no possible way for us to control our users with those measures.
First, I would like to say welcome to bitcointalk forum, its indeed a legendary place for every crypto business to be and I hope your casino finds great success here.

My query now is on this part of the Ann i quoted above, when you @OP, say your casino is decentralized, i hope its not Etherdelta, Forkdelta kind of decentralization, because if it actually is, then i am sorry to say that your casino is not decentralized.

Just incase you don't know Etherdelta and their kind of decentralization, Etherdelta was an exchange that claimed to be decentralized but in actual context, it wasn't because after visiting the site and connecting your wallet, it was impossible to start trading immediately until you have deposited funds from your wallet into the exchange wallet which they will provide.

Why i am interested in this aspect of your casino is because, claiming your casino is decentralized will also mean that you don't have control over the games because the games are hosted on the blockchain and not on some server you have control over ..
So are all the games hosted on the blockchain? to prove that ZKasino is truly decentralized?

We are fully decentralized and never in custody of your funds like the examples you mention. All games are hosted on-chain and uou can find contracts for individual games on each network right here
https://docs.zkasino.io/developer/smart-contracts
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We won't punish any actors. We will only offer bonuses that are +ev for the DAO and have no problem with any multi accounts. Use as many accounts as you'd like, we respect your privacy.

Thank you, we're happy to be here <3

Fair point and I really like your virtue towards privacy. This is actually what’s done at the first place to avoid KYC measures just to caught cheater. If you may, Can you give example bonuses that you are planning to fully understand what is +ev in common terms so that normal user can easily comprehend your bonus style.

So this means you will not offer 3rd party game provider since you are planning to become a completely decentralized casino?

+ev meaning we will only give out bonuses that are in line with the house edge (0.6%) and that cannot be abused.

Currently, we are not able to offer 3rd party game providers(because we are completely decentralized and on-chain) and will instead be producing our own games/slots. When they eventually move over we will be happy to incorporate them. Our future vision is for creators to be able to develop their own games like slots and earn a share of the profits generated. Either way the direction we take will be decided by our community and DAO.

You can add FAQ in your site so you don't need to answer again and again the common questions asked by users.
Just like your means of payment - you mentioned btc via smart contracts? Are you referring to WBTC?
Also, is your 1ZKUSD equivalent to 1 USD? Do you have backing for this token in order to sustain its value?
When are you looking at to launch this casino? Some may be interested to play again in a fully decentralized casino.
We do have an FAQ in our discord Smiley.

Yes I am referring to both WBTC and other solutions to play with BTC.

Currently ZKusd is only a test-net token. It does not have any backing and is free to mint and play with to test our casino.

We are stress testing and adding more features. Looking to launch on main-net soon Smiley
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