Topic: Russian Crypto Exchange Moves Money for Gaza Groups - page 3. (Read 616 times)
I don't know what is really on Putin's mind, he officially stated his support for Gaza but until now this support has not been explicitly intended to support Hamas, I don't really like war, and the war between Hamas and Israel is purely a war of interests, with one exchange originating from Russia helping fund Hamas, I'm sure there will be other FUD that will be spread by those who don't like cryptocurrencies.
Russian Exchange Allegedly Transfers Millions in Crypto for Fundamentalists in Gaza
I just found out that in Gaza there is a fundamentalist group, the majority of which are Hamas fighters. This is a sign that Hamas is also using digital/crypto currency as a source of economic revival among Hamas fighters in Gaza, I just realized now that it is natural that currently the missiles and weapons used by Hamas to attack Israel come from several foreign countries.Before I saw this news, I had time to think where the economy that Hamas gets is so big, no doubt 5000 missiles have been flown, These missiles require millions of dollars to own, it's no surprise that the $93 million in funds obtained from several exchanges in Russia is extraordinary.
If what I just read in the Op is true, I am not too surprised by the actions of Russian Crypto exchanges moving money to Gaza groups because there is an element of resentment between Russia and Israel. Russia's anger led by Putin towards Israel began when Russia invaded Ukraine. Israel, which supported and helped Ukraine, made Russia side with Palestine or the Hamas group in the dispute between Palestine and Israel. Russia has openly supported Palestine, Putin is ready to help Palestine with everything they need to launch an attack on Israel, including sending soldiers and sophisticated war equipment.
While the Israel-Palestine situation is pretty complex, the Russian exchange's act doesn't seem surprising at all. Russia has been friends with Iran, as Iran is supplying a lot of drones which Russia uses against Ukraine. Iran has strong ties with Hamas and endorsed the Hamas attack openly. I hope Estonia will look into Russian businesses doing deeply problematic stuff, though. As an EU and NATO country, it should take such things seriously.
Hopefully, the world is aware enough about cryptos and crypto businesses nowadays that such an unfortunate situation won't be pointed out seriously as an argument against Bitcoin.
Hopefully, the world is aware enough about cryptos and crypto businesses nowadays that such an unfortunate situation won't be pointed out seriously as an argument against Bitcoin.
I believe this is something to cover or make it real that Hamas used the firearms that were actually sent to Ukraine to fight against the Russian invasion.
Okay, let's accept Russia gave 93 million to the Gaza terrorist organization but what they are going to do with that when the entire country is under siege and not to forget that Israel cut down the food, water, and electricity supply already.
Whenever governments need a reason to put the blame they just point it towards cryptocurrency.
Okay, let's accept Russia gave 93 million to the Gaza terrorist organization but what they are going to do with that when the entire country is under siege and not to forget that Israel cut down the food, water, and electricity supply already.
Whenever governments need a reason to put the blame they just point it towards cryptocurrency.
No one points to cryptocurrency as a “reason” or “to blame.” The problem with cryptocurrency, like many GOOD solutions, is that such solutions have “two sides of the coin.” And this is the possibility of using cryptocurrency in uncontrolled operations to finance anti-human, terrorist and other illegal regimes/organizations. And this is one of the key nuances due to which cryptocurrency is under serious control and supervision.
After all, cryptocurrencies like all other tools and products, were created to be used and serve our lives. As for whether it is used in war or smuggling transactions, that is human behavior, not the fault of cryptocurrency. Cryptocurrency is not created just to use it for evil purposes, those who are trying to blame crypto in this case are stubborn and stupid.
But @jrrsparkles, you are quite agitated that no one is at fault in this case. It's just that people are discovering that cryptocurrencies are also being used in warfare.
This gonna create diplomatic conflicts for sure. It was approved by US treasury? Man, that’s gonna hit very hard to them and let me guess they will come up nice cover up story for the same. But considering the fact that it’s in crypto sphere not even sure if this news will be talked on the reputed news channel. They might just suppress it at some corner. Because just read it again it’s bunch of countries that are involved in it and bunch of locations hopping around that exchange. This is definitely spurious practice and funding money to terrorists based country is direct proof of funding the terrorists itself. The amount that was transacted is also pretty huge that means things gonna escalate soon.
I believe this is something to cover or make it real that Hamas used the firearms that were actually sent to Ukraine to fight against the Russian invasion.
Okay, let's accept Russia gave 93 million to the Gaza terrorist organization but what they are going to do with that when the entire country is under siege and not to forget that Israel cut down the food, water, and electricity supply already.
Whenever governments need a reason to put the blame they just point it towards cryptocurrency.
Okay, let's accept Russia gave 93 million to the Gaza terrorist organization but what they are going to do with that when the entire country is under siege and not to forget that Israel cut down the food, water, and electricity supply already.
Whenever governments need a reason to put the blame they just point it towards cryptocurrency.
No one points to cryptocurrency as a “reason” or “to blame.” The problem with cryptocurrency, like many GOOD solutions, is that such solutions have “two sides of the coin.” And this is the possibility of using cryptocurrency in uncontrolled operations to finance anti-human, terrorist and other illegal regimes/organizations. And this is one of the key nuances due to which cryptocurrency is under serious control and supervision.
I just recently read this CNN article which discusses how cryptocurrency/bitcoin are being used to fund Hamas. Now I'm completely and utterly against war for the most part (unfortunately there are times where war is a necessary evil) but this does show how helpful /useful bitcoin/cryptocurrency can be. I know it's being used for a negative thing here, but that doesn't take away the fact that it's providing legitimate utility here.
Here's the article, I highly recommend reading it - https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/12/us/hamas-funding-crypto-invs
Here's the article, I highly recommend reading it - https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/12/us/hamas-funding-crypto-invs
That's not necessarily a negative thing, if you side with the US and Israel then you will think that using cryptocurrency to serve terrorists (this is what Israel calls hamas). But if you are on the side of the Palestinian people (innocent people), you will see that it is a miracle of crypto because if they use other traditional methods, they will face many difficulties. But if we ignore the aspect of supporting which side, we will see how cryptocurrencies bring great benefits, something that no banking system can do.
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What you are saying can be true, but i really doubt the mass migration. Why does the EU want to have such people in their country whose cultural difference is so high that it's hard to convince them all in most of the common topic? These migrated people turn into hostile neighbors and cause instability in the whole continent. So why is it in their best interest? I know the past war in the west causes shortages of manpower in many countries but letting people of Asian origin be a better choice than middle Eastern people, as asian origin people don't share the same culture but most of them are friendly in nature towards new cultural changes.
What you are saying can be true, but i really doubt the mass migration. Why does the EU want to have such people in their country whose cultural difference is so high that it's hard to convince them all in most of the common topic? These migrated people turn into hostile neighbors and cause instability in the whole continent. So why is it in their best interest? I know the past war in the west causes shortages of manpower in many countries but letting people of Asian origin be a better choice than middle Eastern people, as asian origin people don't share the same culture but most of them are friendly in nature towards new cultural changes.
It's very easy to verify that I'm right.
Try these 3 simple questions:
- when did MASS migration from the EU countries begin and who became the MAIN receiving parties? Who was the ruler of these countries at this time?
- What is the scale of migrants in key EU countries, for example in dynamics from 1980 to 2022
- Why don’t migrants from Muslim (Africa/Middle East) countries go to their “familiar” countries, which are close in religion and culture, and have a high standard of living? And why are such countries very reluctant, or rather do not accept such migrants at all?
And you will understand that this is a well-planned, prepared and focused project.
Now, this is another negative feedback for crypto because of these terrorism funding. We're all against these wars and this only shows that many lives will be taken with these money that came from money laundering.
Okay, let's accept Russia gave 93 million to the Gaza terrorist organization but what they are going to do with that when the entire country is under siege and not to forget that Israel cut down the food, water, and electricity supply already.
Whenever governments need a reason to put the blame they just point it towards cryptocurrency.
I do understand that it can be a misleading tactic from whoever funds it and to point the blame but if it's proven, it's unacceptable to fund these attacks. These will take away lives of money and whether it's a diversion tactic, many innocent people have been affected and sacrificed by this nonsense war. Whenever governments need a reason to put the blame they just point it towards cryptocurrency.
I just recently read this CNN article which discusses how cryptocurrency/bitcoin are being used to fund Hamas. Now I'm completely and utterly against war for the most part (unfortunately there are times where war is a necessary evil) but this does show how helpful /useful bitcoin/cryptocurrency can be. I know it's being used for a negative thing here, but that doesn't take away the fact that it's providing legitimate utility here.
Here's the article, I highly recommend reading it - https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/12/us/hamas-funding-crypto-invs
Here's the article, I highly recommend reading it - https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/12/us/hamas-funding-crypto-invs
Yes, it's true, regardless of whether it's good or bad, they use crypto to finance a war, but the presence of crypto really does provide comfort in terms of security.
I've also read the news, why do so many parties want to block Hamas' bank accounts? Even though this is unfair, while they (Israel) are being helped by America, Hamas is not allowed to be helped by anyone. Where do the rules for war come from? Why doesn't the UN do anything as a function of protecting and making peace between those at war? So it's only natural that Hamas uses blockchain technology to receive aid because if you use a bank account you will automatically be found out and your account will be frozen.
In these instances, Bitcoin or crytocurrency has an advantage that Fiat cannot. This is the thing that most people do not see in the concept of Bitcoin or crypto. It is not discussed here whether Russia did it right or wrong; the point is that the digitalization of cryptocurrency is actually used in times when some thought it was impossible to happen.
But because of the blockchain technology that we have, they are able to provide help, and I think whatever Russia's reason is, they will decide that, and we can't do anything about it.
Okay, let's accept Russia gave 93 million to the Gaza terrorist organization but what they are going to do with that when the entire country is under siege and not to forget that Israel cut down the food, water, and electricity supply already.
No it is not, that is unacceptable for most. Gaza terrorists made a surprise attack killing hundreds of civilians in less than a day, then they sent them a boasting $93 million for what? for support of terrorism? it would be much acceptable if this hasn't come thru crypto exchange, we know how this is going down to a big issue. The entire country is under siege, cutting necessities to Palestine, do you know where that $93 million is going? to the black market ofc.Whenever governments need a reason to put the blame they just point it towards cryptocurrency.
This is not because of cryptocurrency, this is simply because Russia is putting some fuel to this ongoing war. I hate to believe that this is going to be an all out war, perhaps going onto much bigger war. 
Putin’s Russia has long become a terrorist state that supports terror and destabilization of peace throughout our planet. This is one of the few states that constantly creates the image of an external enemy for its citizens and thus mobilizes them to unite around the existing government, and thus this government stays afloat for a long time. Therefore, Russia cannot exist without wars with its neighbors.
The Hamas attack on Israel would hardly be so powerful if it were not supported by today's Russia, which needs to distract its people and the peoples of the world from military failures on the Ukrainian front, try to discredit Ukraine and deprive it of international assistance. But these attempts will still become obvious over time and boomerang on Russia itself. In this case, Israel will clearly not forgive Russia for providing assistance to Hamas.
The Hamas attack on Israel would hardly be so powerful if it were not supported by today's Russia, which needs to distract its people and the peoples of the world from military failures on the Ukrainian front, try to discredit Ukraine and deprive it of international assistance. But these attempts will still become obvious over time and boomerang on Russia itself. In this case, Israel will clearly not forgive Russia for providing assistance to Hamas.
Frankly, I'm not surprised Russia is doing everything to piss off the US, because the US are literally fighting Russia in Ukraine via proxy.
Meanwhile Israel's bloody attacks on Palestine, including the outrageously brutal attack on a Baptist hospital in Gaza are officially labelled as war crimes by the UN:
"As the world watches with bated breath, a devastating scenario unfolds in the Middle East, with the United Nations Commission branding Israel’s disproportionate attacks on gas facilities as war crimes."
https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/un-labels-israel-s-attacks-as-war-crimes-amid-escalating-conflict/ar-AA1iiRAx
Russian Exchange Allegedly Transfers Millions in Crypto for Fundamentalists in Gaza
Islamic Jihad, a Palestinian extremist organization active in the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip, has received part of a $ 93 million payment through a Russian cryptocurrency exchange called Garantex, the Wall Street Journal (WSJ) reported.
The company, originally registered in Estoniabut headquartered in Moscow,was sanctionedby the U.S. Treasury Department in April 2022 as part of measures to prevent Russian efforts to evade financial restrictions imposed over the invasion of Ukraine.
The crypto trading platform allegedly processed illicit transactions from the ransomware group Conti and darknet market Hydraas well. It was also used to launder money for Russia’s largest crypto pyramid scheme, Finiko,and raise funds for the Russian far-right paramilitary unit Rusich.source
Islamic Jihad, a Palestinian extremist organization active in the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip, has received part of a $ 93 million payment through a Russian cryptocurrency exchange called Garantex, the Wall Street Journal (WSJ) reported.
The company, originally registered in Estoniabut headquartered in Moscow,was sanctionedby the U.S. Treasury Department in April 2022 as part of measures to prevent Russian efforts to evade financial restrictions imposed over the invasion of Ukraine.
The crypto trading platform allegedly processed illicit transactions from the ransomware group Conti and darknet market Hydraas well. It was also used to launder money for Russia’s largest crypto pyramid scheme, Finiko,and raise funds for the Russian far-right paramilitary unit Rusich.source
Russia is a complete mess right now, but still trying to cause mayhem wherever they can. They cannot do anything to help Syria on the ground any more, so want to keep the middle east unstable. Higher oil prices would also be a geopolitical win for them, as oil is one of the few things that the country can produce relatively easy and make money on, plus it would give them a negotiating point with some countries. It's no surprise that they are funding people that are looking to cause chaos, people who could potentially try to hit America and Europe right now, because they have few other options to strike back. There may even be some expected strings to the money, but they may also regret helping Israel's enemies as they don't like to be manipulated either.
Putin’s Russia has long become a terrorist state that supports terror and destabilization of peace throughout our planet. This is one of the few states that constantly creates the image of an external enemy for its citizens and thus mobilizes them to unite around the existing government, and thus this government stays afloat for a long time. Therefore, Russia cannot exist without wars with its neighbors.
The Hamas attack on Israel would hardly be so powerful if it were not supported by today's Russia, which needs to distract its people and the peoples of the world from military failures on the Ukrainian front, try to discredit Ukraine and deprive it of international assistance. But these attempts will still become obvious over time and boomerang on Russia itself. In this case, Israel will clearly not forgive Russia for providing assistance to Hamas.
The Hamas attack on Israel would hardly be so powerful if it were not supported by today's Russia, which needs to distract its people and the peoples of the world from military failures on the Ukrainian front, try to discredit Ukraine and deprive it of international assistance. But these attempts will still become obvious over time and boomerang on Russia itself. In this case, Israel will clearly not forgive Russia for providing assistance to Hamas.
Error. It was not Putin's Russia that became a terrorist country, it was the USSR that developed the concept of world terrorism, put it into practice, and Russia only inherited these "achievements". There is nothing surprising or unexpected in this news. Believe me - there is still a lot of interesting news about the scriptwriters of this massacre in Israel, and the word "Russia" will be more and more often. Already now there is evidence that there were weapons, specialists and "consultants" and I do not exclude that intelligence about the IDF was also betrayed to terrorists from the hands of Russian intelligence. Now I'm talking to acquaintances who are in Israel, they say a lot of very "interesting" finds are made and received from captured terrorists. But the Kremlin's bastard Netanyahu will probably try to hide or classify it. But hopefully the truth will be available
I think this was done intentionally to move the world's focus from Russia-Ukraine to the Middle East. The military aid ukraine was getting will be reallocated to israel as USA will always protect israel no matter what. Iran can also be involved, as saudi was trying to make a agreement with israel to stop the expansion of Israel's settlements in the west bank and specify a border for Palestinian authority there. So much is happening in the middle east right now and who knows, it might initiate a new war front.
The reason you stated is ONE of several.
The Middle East is a very unstable region, which, in case of a "fire", will affect the whole world, and very negatively.
The second reason: negative impact on the region and as a consequence - negative impact on oil supplies to the world market, where things are already not very good.
Third: destabilization of the EU through riots "thanks" to migrants, and worsening social and economic "temperature" in the EU. It seems to me that the process of mass flow of refugees into the EU is a "man-made" project. At the same time, some rulers of some EU countries (guess who it is ? it is not difficult
) played into the hands of someone who planned it. Such an influx of "ballast" (no offense, but this is a correct description of the role of mass migrants in the EU) allows to solve a lot of problems:- it is a great resource for "show of the people"
- it is an excellent resource for manipulation and pressure on the budget of the countries that received this huge number of migrants.
- It is a "fifth column" that supports quite aggressive groups and alliances.
- It is a "biomass" that can be manipulated in any way.
And "old Europe" is already barely pulling this load of "moral tolerance", and the prospects are getting worse.
Fourth - ....
Perhaps we will learn a lot more about what is happening, but it will be a little later
What you are saying can be true, but i really doubt the mass migration. Why does the EU want to have such people in their country whose cultural difference is so high that it's hard to convince them all in most of the common topic? These migrated people turn into hostile neighbors and cause instability in the whole continent. So why is it in their best interest? I know the past war in the west causes shortages of manpower in many countries but letting people of Asian origin be a better choice than middle Eastern people, as asian origin people don't share the same culture but most of them are friendly in nature towards new cultural changes.
I believe this is something to cover or make it real that Hamas used the firearms that were actually sent to Ukraine to fight against the Russian invasion.
Okay, let's accept Russia gave 93 million to the Gaza terrorist organization but what they are going to do with that when the entire country is under siege and not to forget that Israel cut down the food, water, and electricity supply already.
Whenever governments need a reason to put the blame they just point it towards cryptocurrency.
Okay, let's accept Russia gave 93 million to the Gaza terrorist organization but what they are going to do with that when the entire country is under siege and not to forget that Israel cut down the food, water, and electricity supply already.
Whenever governments need a reason to put the blame they just point it towards cryptocurrency.
A global framework and intelligence agency to curb illegal crypto transactions has become a necessity.
Easier said than done. Although it would be possible to create a global framework but it might not be easy as we are thinking. Crypto is very decentralized in nature and that alone make it more difficult to regulate due to lack of central authority to control it. I read somewhere that some countries like Korea, japan and also some international organizations like financial action task force are already working on creating global standard for crypto but there's nothing to write home about it yet. The task is still far from reaching a concrete resolution.
Moreover, this issue of crypto regulation is a very complex and complicated issue because it will actually help to check and control the illicit activities but on the other hand, it will also reduce the potential of crypto and make it lose the uniqueness.
Putin’s Russia has long become a terrorist state that supports terror and destabilization of peace throughout our planet. This is one of the few states that constantly creates the image of an external enemy for its citizens and thus mobilizes them to unite around the existing government, and thus this government stays afloat for a long time. Therefore, Russia cannot exist without wars with its neighbors.
The Hamas attack on Israel would hardly be so powerful if it were not supported by today's Russia, which needs to distract its people and the peoples of the world from military failures on the Ukrainian front, try to discredit Ukraine and deprive it of international assistance. But these attempts will still become obvious over time and boomerang on Russia itself. In this case, Israel will clearly not forgive Russia for providing assistance to Hamas.
The Hamas attack on Israel would hardly be so powerful if it were not supported by today's Russia, which needs to distract its people and the peoples of the world from military failures on the Ukrainian front, try to discredit Ukraine and deprive it of international assistance. But these attempts will still become obvious over time and boomerang on Russia itself. In this case, Israel will clearly not forgive Russia for providing assistance to Hamas.
Error. It was not Putin's Russia that became a terrorist country, it was the USSR that developed the concept of world terrorism, put it into practice, and Russia only inherited these "achievements". There is nothing surprising or unexpected in this news. Believe me - there is still a lot of interesting news about the scriptwriters of this massacre in Israel, and the word "Russia" will be more and more often. Already now there is evidence that there were weapons, specialists and "consultants" and I do not exclude that intelligence about the IDF was also betrayed to terrorists from the hands of Russian intelligence. Now I'm talking to acquaintances who are in Israel, they say a lot of very "interesting" finds are made and received from captured terrorists. But the Kremlin's bastard Netanyahu will probably try to hide or classify it. But hopefully the truth will be available
I think this was done intentionally to move the world's focus from Russia-Ukraine to the Middle East. The military aid ukraine was getting will be reallocated to israel as USA will always protect israel no matter what. Iran can also be involved, as saudi was trying to make a agreement with israel to stop the expansion of Israel's settlements in the west bank and specify a border for Palestinian authority there. So much is happening in the middle east right now and who knows, it might initiate a new war front.
The reason you stated is ONE of several.
The Middle East is a very unstable region, which, in case of a "fire", will affect the whole world, and very negatively.
The second reason: negative impact on the region and as a consequence - negative impact on oil supplies to the world market, where things are already not very good.
Third: destabilization of the EU through riots "thanks" to migrants, and worsening social and economic "temperature" in the EU. It seems to me that the process of mass flow of refugees into the EU is a "man-made" project. At the same time, some rulers of some EU countries (guess who it is ? it is not difficult
) played into the hands of someone who planned it. Such an influx of "ballast" (no offense, but this is a correct description of the role of mass migrants in the EU) allows to solve a lot of problems:- it is a great resource for "show of the people"
- it is an excellent resource for manipulation and pressure on the budget of the countries that received this huge number of migrants.
- It is a "fifth column" that supports quite aggressive groups and alliances.
- It is a "biomass" that can be manipulated in any way.
And "old Europe" is already barely pulling this load of "moral tolerance", and the prospects are getting worse.
Fourth - ....
Perhaps we will learn a lot more about what is happening, but it will be a little later
That's the risk of crypto which makes every government concerned. Terrorism financing! By nature, crypto can be used for such illicit activities and this news surely proves that there's a risk and why a global crypto framework is needed.
I know a lot of people would disagree with me but there's no denying of the fact the privacy cryptos can indeed be used for terrorism financing with leaving a trace. EU is facing a grave crisis and if the crypto is being used to finance the terrorist activities, it needs to stop. Now it was from Russia, tomorrow, it can come from Iran and day after tomorrow, it will come from Jordan. There's no known way to stop this!
A global framework and intelligence agency to curb illegal crypto transactions has become a necessity.
I know a lot of people would disagree with me but there's no denying of the fact the privacy cryptos can indeed be used for terrorism financing with leaving a trace. EU is facing a grave crisis and if the crypto is being used to finance the terrorist activities, it needs to stop. Now it was from Russia, tomorrow, it can come from Iran and day after tomorrow, it will come from Jordan. There's no known way to stop this!
A global framework and intelligence agency to curb illegal crypto transactions has become a necessity.
Putin’s Russia has long become a terrorist state that supports terror and destabilization of peace throughout our planet. This is one of the few states that constantly creates the image of an external enemy for its citizens and thus mobilizes them to unite around the existing government, and thus this government stays afloat for a long time. Therefore, Russia cannot exist without wars with its neighbors.
The Hamas attack on Israel would hardly be so powerful if it were not supported by today's Russia, which needs to distract its people and the peoples of the world from military failures on the Ukrainian front, try to discredit Ukraine and deprive it of international assistance. But these attempts will still become obvious over time and boomerang on Russia itself. In this case, Israel will clearly not forgive Russia for providing assistance to Hamas.
The Hamas attack on Israel would hardly be so powerful if it were not supported by today's Russia, which needs to distract its people and the peoples of the world from military failures on the Ukrainian front, try to discredit Ukraine and deprive it of international assistance. But these attempts will still become obvious over time and boomerang on Russia itself. In this case, Israel will clearly not forgive Russia for providing assistance to Hamas.
Error. It was not Putin's Russia that became a terrorist country, it was the USSR that developed the concept of world terrorism, put it into practice, and Russia only inherited these "achievements". There is nothing surprising or unexpected in this news. Believe me - there is still a lot of interesting news about the scriptwriters of this massacre in Israel, and the word "Russia" will be more and more often. Already now there is evidence that there were weapons, specialists and "consultants" and I do not exclude that intelligence about the IDF was also betrayed to terrorists from the hands of Russian intelligence. Now I'm talking to acquaintances who are in Israel, they say a lot of very "interesting" finds are made and received from captured terrorists. But the Kremlin's bastard Netanyahu will probably try to hide or classify it. But hopefully the truth will be available
I think this was done intentionally to move the world's focus from Russia-Ukraine to the Middle East. The military aid ukraine was getting will be reallocated to israel as USA will always protect israel no matter what. Iran can also be involved, as saudi was trying to make a agreement with israel to stop the expansion of Israel's settlements in the west bank and specify a border for Palestinian authority there. So much is happening in the middle east right now and who knows, it might initiate a new war front.
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