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Topic: @theymos - Time to update the current Ledger situaion @ Important Announcements? - page 2. (Read 599 times)

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May be someone can link us the topic. Sorry I am not good at searching forum stuffs.

The link to the board is in the OP, and the topic you are referring to is at the very top -> Reminder: do not keep your money in online accounts



I didn't look into this deeply, but my understanding is that it's opt-in. Do we know that people using Ledger are being put at significant additional risk just by upgrading their firmware, if they don't opt into any backup stuff?

Ledger claims that it is exactly so, but my opinion (as well as many others) is that this company can no longer be trusted - because what they do is the complete opposite of what every hardware wallet represents, which is that seed can never leave the device in such a way that it can be sent electronically, regardless of whether it is a voluntary consent or the possibility that someone inside the company or some hacker can use it.

The risk definitely exists, even for those who decide to use this service, because regardless of the way to protect such sensitive information (seed), it is just an additional risk that is also paid $9.99 per month, and requires KYC. We can only guess what the possible implications are for those who will use the new firmware without this option, but I think that people should be warned about what is happening.
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I didn't look into this deeply, but my understanding is that it's opt-in. Do we know that people using Ledger are being put at significant additional risk just by upgrading their firmware, if they don't opt into any backup stuff?
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I tend to agree with OP on this one, given how popular Ledger wallets are and how big this story is. 

For me it was more important the Ledger Database Leak, twice at least, and I don't see anything in that section although there is a thread about the MtGox database leak. At the end of the day this is a voluntary thing.
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@theymos In the above situation, I guess, it would be worthwhile to give an update in Important Announcements and link it below the forum menu as Important Announcement for Ledger Users.
If I am not wrong there is a topic for Newbie created by theymos where he recommended Ledger to have for better security of the funds. I think that post or topic need an update too.

May be someone can link us the topic. Sorry I am not good at searching forum stuffs.
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I tend to agree with OP on this one, given how popular Ledger wallets are and how big this story is.  There might be people who aren't members of the forum doing google searches about this unholy debacle and who might find their way here for some good discussion about it--and guaranteed it'll be better than Reddit.

There have been a lot of important things that have happened in the world of bitcoin that don't warrant mention in the important announcements section, but man....I seriously think this ought to be one of them.  This whole situation is fucked, and I really should have listened to dkbit98 a long time ago.
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@theymos In the above situation, I guess, it would be worthwhile to give an update in Important Announcements and link it below the forum menu as Important Announcement for Ledger Users.

I think that board is like other boards except only donors/VIP/Staff can post, and it is not a bug/backdoor related to the open source Bitcoin wallet in the first place.
And if we go back to the number of views, it is the lowest compared to any other board. only 4004 views for last topic.
Posting there will not increase the awareness campaign for all.
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What would be the important announcement then? That Ledger is a shitty company that has not only been so careless that it has let its customers' data be stolen several times but is also going to implement a program that goes against the principles of bitcoin and what a HW should be?

It's a topic worthy of debate but they're not going to send anyone's seeds if they don't pay, at least in theory.

This is a paid feature so it's not sending your seed phrase anywhere unless you pay $9.99 per month for it (which is a dumb subscription).

Seeing that the last thread in Important Announcements was: Reminder: do not keep your money in online accounts and that the previous ones were 4 years before that, I don't see the issue as important, but maybe theymos does.
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