Topic: Top reporters (Read 3019 times)

My disclaimers did not work to show that I was largely just attempting to highlight a bit of a dilemma in the idea of disclosing who the highest level reporters are... not that the gangs of  bad guys run the forum.

But, yeah, maybe my own way of framing the disclosing of reporters comes off as if I don't believe in reporting, which most of my reports have tended to revolve around shills, yet I am sure there are some other categories in which I believe posts go overboard.. so I am not even sure if I want to disclose my number of reports.. since I am not against reporting and I do engage in such activities myself.. .. but it is several hundred reports over the years... .. but yeah, I have been a forum member for more than 10 years, so I might not have reported very many posts my first couple of years, so yeah, sure, I most likely would not even make the top 1,000 reporters, but that does not mean that I am against reporting (and tattle tales.. to make it fun)..

I was just wanting to throw in some color with the idea of reporting in regards to showing the dilemma of disclosing high level reporters.. and so in that regard, it may or may not be the kind of an attention that a high level reporter wants.. .. .. yet it likely is not even as BIG of a point as I was making it out to be.. so maybe I should just retract the whole idea.. since it is not even that BIG of a deal to me.. and sure, we all benefit, even from the reporters who might be prolific in the sense of over-doing it.. .. so now.. look you got me to concede...and maybe even agree that maybe I should attempt to pick up my reporting game.. and surely I tend to report most of the posts that I believe to have gone overboard.. and even though I read a lot of posts, I do not necessarily end up come across a lot of posts that I find to be reportable.


I doubt that you need very much evidence to report the post of another member (0r even the conduct of another member that might be represented by a series of posts). You just should have a reason that you put in the report which suggest some kind of conduct that you believe to be in violation of the forum's rules... so there might not be a BIG downside to reporting... so for example, I don't tend to report posts that are not on topic, except if I were in a thread and the other member continue to push off-topic ideas (and the member was told to stop), then maybe after a while I might report those kinds of posts.   

So, there are likely some kinds of posts that I could report, and I do not do it because I might find them to NOT go beyond my own concerns, even if technically they might be breaking a forum rule.. and another thing that some members do, is they just tell the member that they are breaking a forum rule, so that might help to get the member to stop.  I know that sometimes I am bothered by failures to cite sources for information, and surely there are some posts that appear like they are done by bots rather than real people, but it can be quite difficult to spend time trying to figure out some of those kinds of matters.. and even for someone like me.. sometimes, I find that I am reading through a bunch of crappy forum posts, but they don't reach a level of reportability, even though they might not really be adding any value and might be difficult to read in terms of figuring out what kind of point they might be trying to make.. so yeah, it is nice to come across forum members who are able to present their points in interesting ways and to use examples and sometimes to point out references to support the points of their post.

You don't need to certify him on the ground of reporting as many post as possible. Reporting post isn't bad either, it ensures the safety of everyone from scammers, spam messages and also post that isn't suppose to be under certain thread. No need to justify your point. But we need to have substantial evidence to back-up any report in order to avoid tarnishing identity of any member then up end retrieving such report.

If I may ask: how many posts have you reported? You seem to think reporting posts is a bad thing, I think it's a good thing. It's like calling waste collection when there's a pile of trash in your area.

I for one have no problem at all with being known to report posts. My sig line says it all, "For bitcoin to succeed the community must police itself".

I'm glad to help keep this forum usable by winnowing out the crap and redirecting posts to their right areas. At last count my total is now 4583 posts with 99% accuracy (4424 good, 85 bad, 74 unhandled).

Google this: "Snitches get stitches"^**


 

**by the way, please note that I am not threatening any of you tattle tales.

I had to Google it:
The obvious ones are indeed easy, and quickly get handled. But I see much less of them lately. Maybe because I stay away from certain boards, or maybe because there really is less spam. My current 30 days report history has 31 Good reports, and 7 Unhandled. That ratio used to be about 26.5 to 1. I guess Mods are now more lenient than I would be

Nearly everything that should be reported for keep the Forum clean and other Users safe.
Spam posts , Double posts , Wrong made board threads , Ref links , Scammer posts , Malware and Suspicious Links and so on.
If you want to dive deeper into that , take a look here Report Malware and Suspicious Links here so Mods can take Action !

Wtf why i should have a language impediment ?
English is not my native language thats right , its german but I have been speaking English fluently for several years.
So for me there is no problem on the speak language front.

Simple answer , with Merit and not reporting it.

The only reason that I have already mentioned several times is the one that stems from the fact that some members were unhappy that such data were published publicly. Even if this is the reason, there is always a solution in the way of marking them with "x" or "anonymous" instead of their name - of course such a way of posting would require the admin to send a PM to everyone on that list so that it could be partially "censored" if it is really a problem for someone.

I never thought about that alone - my criterion would strictly be on thread derailing post, post made in the wrong section and 'em falsified cookie-cutter post. Seems everyone has a different lookout and that pretty fair.
ouuchh! That would hurt! ^{Please, bans me}

It does even merit for deleted post stays
The user loses access to the account in a way it's like losing the merit.
Except they appeal and the appeal is accepted.

but does he lose that merit or does it stay?

Having to interpret what a poster is trying to say is not an issue. It's to be expected on any international forum...

For me a post deserving to be reported as trash is usually bloody obvious: things like thinly disguised clickbait ads/referrals, wildly off-topic, etc. Same for Wrong area, be it an altcoin topic in the Bitcoin areas or hardware sales or services advertising outside of their reserved areas of the forum.

As of late the number of obviously AI generated posting and plagiarism is on the rise no doubt because ChatGPT makes it so easy to ask a question and then post its answer as if the poster came up with it instead of DYOR, formulating ideas from the research and only then making a post about it. Problem is, most AI generated crap is just that - crap - in that it often contains many errors. One good clue to AI crap is that it often reads like a dry, sanitized, textbook.

Well, I don't really mean to be derogatory ^{[forgive me if that's how it looks to you]}but, what sort of post do you report? You've got a little language impediment - that could be because you don't speak English as your native language? - if that's the case, how then do you evaluate good post? Just asking  
While that might be the case, how about you think in this direction - realistically, since the data hasn't been updated just yet, that there isn't anyone that you'd think is leading on the chart? Actmyname has been relentlessly good prior to his inactive days ^{[we've got a couple of others too][/sub] but that's what I've ever known the dude for.}
That's obviously not the case.. ^{[I mean, how did you miss Tranthi's post?]}

I do remember that badge, but I could swear that it was only a couple of years ago when the idea was implemented.  You're right, time certainly does fly (and to you young'ins, the perception of time zipping away from you only gets stronger as you age--trust me).


Even if you do it for that reason, you're still helping the forum when those shitposts get erased forever.  If enough people report shitposts and other issues, the benefits add up.  I don't know how many posts I reported this year, but it was probably more than the past two years combined.  I don't have as much fire in my belly as I did back in 2016-17, but when I see a generic, poorly-written post I hit that report button speedily and with no hesitation.  The merit system has helped clean up the worst of the mess we had pre-2018, but the problem of members making zero-value posts to make money lingers on.


Wish I had an answer to that, but I'm not a staff member and have no clue what goes on behind the scenes.  You'd think it'd be a simple fix like the one you described, but I suspect Theymos has his reasons for not acknowledging reporters publicly.  I couldn't even hazard a guess what those reasons are, though.

I've done that.



Not on purpose, though.

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I wonder if there might be a bit of a dilemma for theymos in regards to putting out a top reporters post.. it is like saying: "here are the biggest tattle tales," an I am not even trying to denigrate "reporting" concept.

I remember him explicitly saying that he didn't us any tools for all those hundreds of thousands of reports that he made (or whatever was the number) but who knows was that really the case since his numbers were crazy.


Same here, but I have to say that it gives me less and less satisfaction meaning I am nowhgere as active on the reporting scene as I was.

I agree that the publication of these statistics would be a kind of thank you to all those who work in the background to make the forum a better and more pleasant place for all who visit it as members and as guests. I don't know the real reason why the admin doesn't do it anymore, but if it's just a lack of time, can that task be transferred to the global moderator @hilariousandco who is active in the posting Monthly Report Statistics?

These tools can be what he used.

[HACK] One-click mod report, not for the faint of heart
[Userscript] Report to moderator on post history

I remember Ratimov used to have very high active time daily, like a sleepless users when he was addictive with reports old posts.

Ratimov was also very active with reports back than, not sure if he also used any tools or not, but he made reports mostly in his local board.

Same here, but I think it makes forum just a little bit easier to use for me, at least for boards that I usually visit.
I certainly wouldn't spend hours reporting posts every day just so that I could have reporters badge, but it would be cool if theymos could release fresh list of top reporters.

If only we could see their face after they see their posts disappear
My evil side still wants to Merit a user right before he gets banned for plagiarism, just to make it hurt a bit more.