Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it - page 9.

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Quote from: saeedxxx on April 25, 2024, 01:53:36 PM

It's kind of delusion... You know. our mind looks for pattern for anything and finally it finds

Apophenia is a mental disorder to see connections and patterns between unrelated or random things that are not really there—gives rise to conspiracy theories. Cry

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Quote from: k3ntINA on April 25, 2024, 07:32:41 AM

I am not digaran.
If my posts are bothering you and it is not worth it at all, I will stop posting. But know that there are many things that definitely helped to solve the keys.
My problem is my lack of knowledge in mathematics and I thought that there are people here who understand correctly.
This circle is not a simple thing, you only see a part of it.
I have been watching the thread since today like many others.
I do not post anything
Those of you who know, write and comment...
Of course, those who want to follow me or even have an opinion or idea can join this Telegram group:
https://t.me/bitcoinsolvers
It is definitely not mandatory to enter this channel and everyone can talk without restrictions without being ridiculed and the only thing that is not acceptable is insulting and mocking others.
We know that once upon a time there were people who had ideas and were even attacked and ridiculed for expressing their ideas, but with the passage of time, everyone came to that idea and theory. One of those people is Galileo... you all heard his story

It's kind of delusion... You know. our mind looks for pattern for anything and finally it finds

But, it is important to consider that in this concept (Randomness) you can't use any sort of pattern in order to find the key. otherwise it's not "random".

Good luck

ccinet

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Quote from: k3ntINA on April 25, 2024, 07:32:41 AM

I am not digaran.
If my posts are bothering you and it is not worth it at all, I will stop posting. But know that there are many things that definitely helped to solve the keys.
My problem is my lack of knowledge in mathematics and I thought that there are people here who understand correctly.
This circle is not a simple thing, you only see a part of it.
I have been watching the thread since today like many others.
I do not post anything
Those of you who know, write and comment...
Of course, those who want to follow me or even have an opinion or idea can join this Telegram group:
https://t.me/bitcoinsolvers
It is definitely not mandatory to enter this channel and everyone can talk without restrictions without being ridiculed and the only thing that is not acceptable is insulting and mocking others.
We know that once upon a time there were people who had ideas and were even attacked and ridiculed for expressing their ideas, but with the passage of time, everyone came to that idea and theory. One of those people is Galileo... you all heard his story

What is your hypothesis? that the creator has used the circle to generate the private keys?
The truth is I don't know how it could because except for the case of puzzle 65, for the rest it doesn't comply with those rules. For example, in the case of puzzle 64, the first digits of its private key are not formed with the radius of the circle and the angle, and this does not occur for the rest of the known puzzles either.

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Quote from: nomachine on April 25, 2024, 07:12:16 AM

Solving the puzzle with the magic circle is BS. If it was that simple, it would have already been solved.
I bet digaran is joking with us again. Grin

He is not joking ... He is mentally ill.

k3ntINA

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I am not digaran.
If my posts are bothering you and it is not worth it at all, I will stop posting. But know that there are many things that definitely helped to solve the keys.
My problem is my lack of knowledge in mathematics and I thought that there are people here who understand correctly.
This circle is not a simple thing, you only see a part of it.
I have been watching the thread since today like many others.
I do not post anything
Those of you who know, write and comment...
Of course, those who want to follow me or even have an opinion or idea can join this Telegram group:
https://t.me/bitcoinsolvers
It is definitely not mandatory to enter this channel and everyone can talk without restrictions without being ridiculed and the only thing that is not acceptable is insulting and mocking others.
We know that once upon a time there were people who had ideas and were even attacked and ridiculed for expressing their ideas, but with the passage of time, everyone came to that idea and theory. One of those people is Galileo... you all heard his story

nomachine

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Solving the puzzle with the magic circle is BS. If it was that simple, it would have already been solved.
I bet digaran is joking with us again. Grin

citb0in

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Bitcoin g33k

unfortunately it appears that bots are flooding this thread again. Please stay away from chatGPT and stop flooding this thread with non-sense. That won't help either your psychotic disease nor anyone else reading here.

god bless you

khalidkhan82118

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It's too easy to crack. Why are they prizing too high? It seems fishy

k3ntINA

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https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/24/r29lN.gif
I removed the key number 65 and it is very strange that you can see all the signs of the key! This is not normal.
I drew a line from the starting point of key number 65 to the center of the circle.
The degree and length of the line in mm units correspond to the first few numbers of key 65!
Line degree: 35.68 and line length 73.72
What magic is there really? This cannot be unrelated to the production of keys.
35.68 has become 30568 and 73.72 has become 3773.
What's really going on???

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Quote from: abdenn0ur on April 24, 2024, 09:47:04 AM

Imagine a Bitcoin giveaway with 1 BTC up for grabs. The host exposes the address and private key (a big no-no!). This creates a race condition:

• Many people try to send a transaction at once (the race starts!).
• Transactions need miner confirmation, not instantaneous processing. It's like waiting in line at a bank.
• Miners prioritize transactions with higher fees, like a fast lane with a toll.
• Person A starts first, but sets a low fee. Their transaction waits in the regular line.
• Person B sends a smaller amount with a high fee. They pay extra to jump the line.
• The block gets filled, and only transactions including Person B's smaller amount fit. It's confirmed first.
• Person A's transaction might still be valid, but there's not enough remaining to cover their intended amount + fees. They get a partial payout or nothing.

Conclusion:
Timing and fees, not starting order, determine the winner.

Source : Google Gemini

You write well as per reference
But hand on practice is different
For example private key
Dec 2
Hex 2
Load Pk and see there is unconfirmed tx
See why it's not completed, analyze this tx , you will learn something, similar same lot of tx unconfirmed from 4 months , some people's still trying to hand on practice, and I have completed this subject,

ccinet

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Quote from: abdenn0ur on April 24, 2024, 09:47:04 AM

Imagine a Bitcoin giveaway with 1 BTC up for grabs. The host exposes the address and private key (a big no-no!). This creates a race condition:

• Many people try to send a transaction at once (the race starts!).
• Transactions need miner confirmation, not instantaneous processing. It's like waiting in line at a bank.
• Miners prioritize transactions with higher fees, like a fast lane with a toll.
• Person A starts first, but sets a low fee. Their transaction waits in the regular line.
• Person B sends a smaller amount with a high fee. They pay extra to jump the line.
• The block gets filled, and only transactions including Person B's smaller amount fit. It's confirmed first.
• Person A's transaction might still be valid, but there's not enough remaining to cover their intended amount + fees. They get a partial payout or nothing.

Conclusion:
Timing and fees, not starting order, determine the winner.

Source : Google Gemini

Someone is going to be angry with this... Roll Eyes

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Imagine a Bitcoin giveaway with 1 BTC up for grabs. The host exposes the address and private key (a big no-no!). This creates a race condition:

• Many people try to send a transaction at once (the race starts!).
• Transactions need miner confirmation, not instantaneous processing. It's like waiting in line at a bank.
• Miners prioritize transactions with higher fees, like a fast lane with a toll.
• Person A starts first, but sets a low fee. Their transaction waits in the regular line.
• Person B sends a smaller amount with a high fee. They pay extra to jump the line.
• The block gets filled, and only transactions including Person B's smaller amount fit. It's confirmed first.
• Person A's transaction might still be valid, but there's not enough remaining to cover their intended amount + fees. They get a partial payout or nothing.

Conclusion:
Timing and fees, not starting order, determine the winner.

Source : Google Gemini

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Farewell, Leo

Quote from: nomachine on April 24, 2024, 09:11:23 AM

This would skyrocket the Bitcoin mining difficulty by a factor of 20,160.

The max it can go is 4x at once.

nomachine

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Quote from: mohammedlaoui on April 24, 2024, 07:16:46 AM

i have access to a quantum comp

Imagine if an immensely advanced quantum computer suddenly start the mining generating 2,016 blocks within a minute, and then vanishes.This would skyrocket the Bitcoin mining difficulty by a factor of 20,160. Conventional miners worldwide would need to labor for 140 days instead of the usual 10 minutes to uncover the hash value of a solitary block. Consequently, the blockchain would come to a standstill, halting all Bitcoin transactions during this period. Grin

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Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on April 24, 2024, 05:27:51 AM

Is this puzzle really worth trying to solve? It's been close to a decade. Can someone give me a TL;DR?

There are several puzzles with different bits of diffculty it is exponential, puzzle 66 is 6.6 BTC BTC puzzle 67 is 6.7 BTC.

Puzzles prizes have been incremented in a x10 Factor two times since its creation.

Check the list of all unsolved puzzles.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vZyRZ67iNl7aIwYNB55OY8LvZLAaoBxSanxqnGMZlWA/edit?usp=sharing

There are some puzzles addres with publickey avaiable those have another method to be solved current unsolved with publickey is puzle 130 13 BTC

Quote from: joseperal on April 24, 2024, 08:11:14 AM

I have another idea,

The puzzle creator said the only thing all the private keys have in common, is that all of them were created from a HD wallet, and then masked from the left with zeros.

Is it any weakness on the HD method of creating wallets? I mean, with the number of private keys already revealed, we could just try to target the searches for the the master private key that was used in the HD wallet.

What do you think?

Regards.

I think that author or this puzzle may used a custom method to generate those keys

Quote from: saatoshi_rising on April 27, 2017, 02:41:08 AM

Quote from: sabbybibi on March 13, 2017, 12:17:30 PM

This puzzle is very strange. If it's for measuring the world's brute forcing capacity, 161-256 are just a waste (RIPEMD160 entropy is filled by 160, and by all of P2PKH Bitcoin). The puzzle creator could improve the puzzle's utility without bringing in any extra funds from outside - just spend 161-256 across to the unsolved portion 51-160, and roughly treble the puzzle's content density.

If on the other hand there's a pattern to find... well... that's awfully open-ended... can we have a hint or two? Cheesy

I am the creator.

You are quite right, 161-256 are silly. I honestly just did not think of this. What is especially embarrassing, is this did not occur to me once, in two years. By way of excuse, I was not really thinking much about the puzzle at all.

I will make up for two years of stupidity. I will spend from 161-256 to the unsolved parts, as you suggest. In addition, I intend to add further funds. My aim is to boost the density by a factor of 10, from 0.001*length(key) to 0.01*length(key). Probably in the next few weeks. At any rate, when I next have an extended period of quiet and calm, to construct the new transaction carefully.

A few words about the puzzle. There is no pattern. It is just consecutive keys from a deterministic wallet (masked with leading 000...0001 to set difficulty). It is simply a crude measuring instrument, of the cracking strength of the community.

Finally, I wish to express appreciation of the efforts of all developers of new cracking tools and technology. The "large bitcoin collider" is especially innovative and interesting!

He never mention HD wallet it only mentioned some deterministic wallet

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Quote from: joseperal on April 24, 2024, 08:11:14 AM

I have another idea,

The puzzle creator said the only thing all the private keys have in common, is that all of them were created from a HD wallet, and then masked from the left with zeros.

Is it any weakness on the HD method of creating wallets? I mean, with the number of private keys already revealed, we could just try to target the searches for the the master private key that was used in the HD wallet.

What do you think?

Regards.

nice catch, go go go from me,
when update ready.

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I have another idea,

The puzzle creator said the only thing all the private keys have in common, is that all of them were created from a HD wallet, and then masked from the left with zeros.

Is it any weakness on the HD method of creating wallets? I mean, with the number of private keys already revealed, we could just try to target the searches for the the master private key that was used in the HD wallet.

What do you think?

Regards.

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i have access to a quantum comp give the script hahah

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Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on April 24, 2024, 05:27:51 AM

Is this puzzle really worth trying to solve? It's been close to a decade. Can someone give me a TL;DR?

Of course not ...

Think for a moment: why someone keeps so much money locked in btc puzzle instead of cashing it out ?

Because he has a much more and this puzzle is used for monitoring current cracking possibilities. It's not some kind of competition someone made for fun. It's made on purpose.

Nobody will crack 66 or more bit puzzle using python scripts on home computer. It's a total waste of time.

The puzzle is there to meter if there is anybody who can use enough processing power to crack it.

And you can only crack it randomly guessing private keys if you don't have public key available. Those with public key available can be solved using kangaroo or bsgs but still it needs too much processing power for an average person for a random guy (that's why the higher that 66 bit ranges are already solved but still nobody can't beat 130bit - FYI Every fifth puzzle here have intentionally released it's public key by the creator)

Everything here can be calculated - i mean you can calculate how much processing power you need to crack it, how many and what kind of hardware you need to achieve that. You must invest hundreds of thousands $$$ to even try to crack it.

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In the context of the polynomial generated using the Lagrange interpolation method in Sage, the x value represents the variable of the polynomial. It's not directly related to a public key's x value in cryptography. Here, x is the independent variable in the polynomial.

In Sage, when you construct a polynomial, x represents the variable in that polynomial. In the given code:

Code:

R = PolynomialRing(QQ,'x')                                 
f = R.lagrange_polynomial([(0,1),(1,3),(2,7),(3,8),(4,21),(5,49),(6,76),(7,224),(8,467),(9,514),(10,1155),(11,2683),(12,5216),(13,10544),(14,26867),(15,51510)])
for i in range(16):
    print(f(i))

Here, x is the variable in the polynomial f. So, x in the polynomial formula is just a placeholder for the variable in the polynomial equation, and it doesn't have any direct relationship to a public key's x value in cryptography.

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