Topic: Do we really need to blame fraudsters - page 7. (Read 1461 times)
Base on certain things people being scammed is because of ignorance of not having knowledge or not being having a mentor in the business and most people fall in the hands of scammers is a function of greed.
This is just my insight on that matter. If the number of scammers is increasing in these times, it is because exploitative people also see that there are also many people who are ignorant and are often just carried away by the hype. They will be attracted.
And that attraction is also used by scammers to catch people who often fall for this type of hype. Scammers will only copy what has been done by legitimate other crypto's that have been successful in the field of crypto space, so if these scammers are smart, we as investors should also be smarter than the scammers.
And that attraction is also used by scammers to catch people who often fall for this type of hype. Scammers will only copy what has been done by legitimate other crypto's that have been successful in the field of crypto space, so if these scammers are smart, we as investors should also be smarter than the scammers.
Have you noticed that whenever someone complain or there is an incident of scam they is always a role that was played by the person in that happening
It happens but not in all cases, you kept your property in your care is quite different from when you lost it out of carelessness or when someone came in and attack you just to steal you money from you, most of the people you see often loose their assets lack the practice of the security measures expected from them to use in shielding over their asset and this scammers uses such weakness to attack them, this is also very common to newbies in mot cases, if you know that you have something that you cherish, then don't wait till you're been attacked before doing something to protect yourself.
There's no cheater if there's no people willing to get deceive and it same goes with those scam platforms we encounter. If we know that they are scam and shady then we should never try to deal with and take a risk since its like tolerating them to create a new schemes since they know that there are willing victims who tries to play with the game hoping that they can earn. We really see a lot of times a wealth loss so for people to avoid that to happen much better if they spend their time looking at more realistic means to earn bitcoins or crypto. There are good options there and people should never exert their effort to invest on example meme coins or other ponzi schemes which is obvious that what will be the end point of this programs.
Have you noticed that whenever someone complain or there is an incident of scam they is always a role that was played by the person in that happening
It happens but not in all cases, you kept your property in your care is quite different from when you lost it out of carelessness or when someone came in and attack you just to steal you money from you, most of the people you see often loose their assets lack the practice of the security measures expected from them to use in shielding over their asset and this scammers uses such weakness to attack them, this is also very common to newbies in mot cases, if you know that you have something that you cherish, then don't wait till you're been attacked before doing something to protect yourself.
The Big Question
no one is at fault but both sides because we are aware that this is depending to whom will believe and listen with , either fraudster or shiller ? who are we to decide whom at fault.Who Is Really At Fault?
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If more people realise that decentralized systems isn't like a banking or centralized system were you can go and report a transaction and they seize the persons money or track the person( although its possible if they are not smart enough) then you would be more careful when doing deals here.
then this is what we can call fraud , because Decentralization is what the reason that we are here , and indeed this made us free from government interference . There is no justification for what scammers trying to do in the first place.
Alongside the victim should be blamed too for falling into the pitfalls they have created, it could be avoided if they paid little more attention in most of the cases, so both parties are at the fault.
Blaming one for been scammed? He or she have no idea of these new techniques but if enlighten properly, the ratio of scamming victims will reduced. We should know what we want and falling for scamming activities and projects shouldn't be one of the them. We should be careful in the space because there are high rate of scams and we should always abide to the current situation of the market, not relenting because the so-called scammers doesn't sleep when it comes to doing their jobs, they execute them perfectly but mostly pointing towards the direction of the newbies. Alongside the victim should be blamed too for falling into the pitfalls they have created, it could be avoided if they paid little more attention in most of the cases, so both parties are at the fault.
There is no justification for what scammers trying to do in the first place.
Alongside the victim should be blamed too for falling into the pitfalls they have created, it could be avoided if they paid little more attention in most of the cases, so both parties are at the fault.
Significantly speaking, scam has a lot to do with the victims but not entirely they faults that they fall into the scammers trap and sometimes anyone can fall into such trap too, scammers are very smart with their scheme to the point that some of them use other things such as vodos and other fetish things to work on they victims mind, so while we set to blame victim we should also take the time to check and point out something that make room for such a scam to take place in the first place.Alongside the victim should be blamed too for falling into the pitfalls they have created, it could be avoided if they paid little more attention in most of the cases, so both parties are at the fault.
Scam also come in different class and categories and some times yes we have scam that involved the victims input such as playing into the scammers hand by letting them have the secret keys and other security informations that are used to take off our money at any point, but realistically even at that level we cant still blame the victims since we may still not likely understand what plays out entirely, best thing to do to avoid scam is to always stay away from anything that sounds too good to be true and also we should deal with our greed tendency because those are the fastest ways that scammers can get through to our mind and there by control.
We cannot blame the fraudsters as they are inhumane and lacks the humanity else they won't be cheating and robbing innocent and foolish people. I think we need to be very cautious but still there are chances users can be fooled at least expected platforms I see everyday people are getting scammed through the fake e-commerce sites and all. This has to be stopped which is possible with only harsh punishment for the preparators else they will keep on figuring out new way to fool us. We need strong cybersecurity and anti scan system in place the scammers should be traced and punished.
And I guess you feel the world would be a better place right, why not you run to your mama and leave crypto, its going to keep happening and the sooner you tell yourself "I'm in control" the better, your responsible, they fuck you blame yourself, cause they isn't no third party or government body to report, so that responsibility falls on you.
No one is above mistakes but if you accept the responsibility then you would have a lesser chance of been decived.
Scammers are everywhere and in every season, bear market or bull run they'll never absent from it because there's always an opportunity for them to scam people and victims are coming all over this marketplace no matter what the situation is. While they know the demand is on an increasing trend on this market, they do know that many uninformed newbies are coming in and those are the people that they're targeting to scam and that's why awareness and being knowledgeable is the key and getting familiarized with their scam techniques will help in avoiding them.
At least your reply points out that they is a level of responsibility we have in avoiding these scammers, others prefer to blame the circumstance than the rile they played, everyone want some else to get it done for them, if you are not ready to take care of yourself in this decentralized space then go back to your mama, crypto is for the grown that are ready to accept responsibility
Scammers are everywhere and in every season, bear market or bull run they'll never absent from it because there's always an opportunity for them to scam people and victims are coming all over this marketplace no matter what the situation is. While they know the demand is on an increasing trend on this market, they do know that many uninformed newbies are coming in and those are the people that they're targeting to scam and that's why awareness and being knowledgeable is the key and getting familiarized with their scam techniques will help in avoiding them.
The Big Question
Have you noticed that whenever someone complain or there is an incident of scam they is always a role that was played by the person in that happening, either they failed to be security conscious or they were totally ignorant, and when you look at it the scammer never forced them to comply, this people willingly fell for their trick.
There are lots of crypto investors that are well educated, have a good job and a higher level of exposure than even most scammers, but they chose to enter into the crypto space irresponsibly and they inevitably get scammed and at times lose huge sums of money or even life savings. Last bull run there was this Elon musk swap scam that was on and someone lost 10 bitcoins to it and even other cases where people have gotten scam through crypto ads or crypto exchanges that shut down and all this would have been prevented in a way.
In conclusion
there are numerous experiences and stories of people getting scammed and it wasn't as tho a high class hacker went into the blockchain or stole their seed phrase, they literally gave them their money, I think no matter the new app with added security or software, people would still fall into scam as long as they chose to remain ignorant and disregard security consciousness, we can not protect anyone's holding for them, no matter how many treads on security and how to avoid scams are introduced, at the end of the day its a personal responsibility and each person must play their role in their safety.
O boy, your write up is definitely going to get some people angry, and that includes me, are you for real? Who Is Really At Fault?
Have you noticed that whenever someone complain or there is an incident of scam they is always a role that was played by the person in that happening, either they failed to be security conscious or they were totally ignorant, and when you look at it the scammer never forced them to comply, this people willingly fell for their trick.
There are lots of crypto investors that are well educated, have a good job and a higher level of exposure than even most scammers, but they chose to enter into the crypto space irresponsibly and they inevitably get scammed and at times lose huge sums of money or even life savings. Last bull run there was this Elon musk swap scam that was on and someone lost 10 bitcoins to it and even other cases where people have gotten scam through crypto ads or crypto exchanges that shut down and all this would have been prevented in a way.
In conclusion
there are numerous experiences and stories of people getting scammed and it wasn't as tho a high class hacker went into the blockchain or stole their seed phrase, they literally gave them their money, I think no matter the new app with added security or software, people would still fall into scam as long as they chose to remain ignorant and disregard security consciousness, we can not protect anyone's holding for them, no matter how many treads on security and how to avoid scams are introduced, at the end of the day its a personal responsibility and each person must play their role in their safety.
So scammers are now the saints because they lay down some traps and wait for innocent people to fall for it and they don't force anyone to fall?
I hope you become a victim sooner than later, you will know how it feels, what is bad is bad, there is no other name for being bad, do not try to turn something bad or evil into good.
Some scamming tricks are confusing enough, to make people fall victim, while some scammers use greed in humans to lure them into traps, none of these is a good one.
Scammers are to be blamed, they are the doers of evil, and the internet will be a safer place without them, but if you think that scamming people is not bad, may you become a victim yourself, maybe someone will steal all your money in your bank account one day, you will then know how it feels.
The truth really tastes bitter so your free to be as angry as you want, face reality this is decentralization, we all signed for it when we decided that crypto was the way, and that includes beign responsibility for yourself and security, which ever way you get scammed either by misleading information or by total ignorance and sometimes people are just too greedy, if you read my post I made mention of a 2021 bull run scam called ELON MUSK SWAP that a man lost his 10 bitcoins too, does he look like a newbie to you, he has been here even before most of us, but was foolish enough to fall amongst many others, so now tell me, who would you blame the so sweet Elon scam or the man that failed to do his own research.
You get me wrong I'm not saying scammers are saints or angels, neither am I justifying the action, but its clear that we played a major role in any scam that happens to us, this people just merely exploit our weakness.
You feel I've not been scammed before, your joking, I have and yeah it's my fault, I was too greedy and that's fact and next time I'll stick in my lane, tell yourself the truth, your responsible for yourself.
The Big Question
Have you noticed that whenever someone complain or there is an incident of scam they is always a role that was played by the person in that happening, either they failed to be security conscious or they were totally ignorant, and when you look at it the scammer never forced them to comply, this people willingly fell for their trick.
There are lots of crypto investors that are well educated, have a good job and a higher level of exposure than even most scammers, but they chose to enter into the crypto space irresponsibly and they inevitably get scammed and at times lose huge sums of money or even life savings. Last bull run there was this Elon musk swap scam that was on and someone lost 10 bitcoins to it and even other cases where people have gotten scam through crypto ads or crypto exchanges that shut down and all this would have been prevented in a way.
In conclusion
there are numerous experiences and stories of people getting scammed and it wasn't as tho a high class hacker went into the blockchain or stole their seed phrase, they literally gave them their money, I think no matter the new app with added security or software, people would still fall into scam as long as they chose to remain ignorant and disregard security consciousness, we can not protect anyone's holding for them, no matter how many treads on security and how to avoid scams are introduced, at the end of the day its a personal responsibility and each person must play their role in their safety.
O boy, your write up is definitely going to get some people angry, and that includes me, are you for real? Who Is Really At Fault?
Have you noticed that whenever someone complain or there is an incident of scam they is always a role that was played by the person in that happening, either they failed to be security conscious or they were totally ignorant, and when you look at it the scammer never forced them to comply, this people willingly fell for their trick.
There are lots of crypto investors that are well educated, have a good job and a higher level of exposure than even most scammers, but they chose to enter into the crypto space irresponsibly and they inevitably get scammed and at times lose huge sums of money or even life savings. Last bull run there was this Elon musk swap scam that was on and someone lost 10 bitcoins to it and even other cases where people have gotten scam through crypto ads or crypto exchanges that shut down and all this would have been prevented in a way.
In conclusion
there are numerous experiences and stories of people getting scammed and it wasn't as tho a high class hacker went into the blockchain or stole their seed phrase, they literally gave them their money, I think no matter the new app with added security or software, people would still fall into scam as long as they chose to remain ignorant and disregard security consciousness, we can not protect anyone's holding for them, no matter how many treads on security and how to avoid scams are introduced, at the end of the day its a personal responsibility and each person must play their role in their safety.
So scammers are now the saints because they lay down some traps and wait for innocent people to fall for it and they don't force anyone to fall?
I hope you become a victim sooner than later, you will know how it feels, what is bad is bad, there is no other name for being bad, do not try to turn something bad or evil into good.
Some scamming tricks are confusing enough, to make people fall victim, while some scammers use greed in humans to lure them into traps, none of these is a good one.
Scammers are to be blamed, they are the doers of evil, and the internet will be a safer place without them, but if you think that scamming people is not bad, may you become a victim yourself, maybe someone will steal all your money in your bank account one day, you will then know how it feels.
Have you noticed that whenever someone complain or there is an incident of scam they is always a role that was played by the person in that happening, either they failed to be security conscious or they were totally ignorant, and when you look at it the scammer never forced them to comply, this people willingly fell for their trick.
Whether we want to blame fraudsters or not, it doesn't seem to have any influence on them. They will continue to carry out their mission to reap profits and get as much money as possible as long as they can and don't get caught. yes because this may be part of their "profession". I say profession because this is [a job they do, deliberately and also managed very well.Moreover, they also understand that there are still many people they can easily deceive. the people who are:
- Greedy
- Want to get rich instantly
- Easy to panic
- FOMO
- Without knowledge
And perhaps there are many other types of people who are very easily deceived and fall into the trap of fraudsters. And here it's not a matter of whether they are wrong or not, it's just what they did. And they take advantage of the conditions of these people to gain profit.
What we have to do is make sure we avoid various frauds and scams. because they won't stop even though we blame them so much.
We are saying the same thign bro, most frud that has happened, there were not hacked by one great hacker or maybe a special tool was used, thus people were either too greedy or were too lazy to make research.
My major reason for blaming them is simple cause they most of them are not illiterates, neither are they new to the process of reading or making research, you would see doctors amongst those people even far more educated people with exposure than most scammers but they would end lagging around and believing the words of someone else without doing any research.
The fraudsters are looking for ways to earn money just like any other person. That is why they set out some tricks to get ignorant and uneducated newbies to scam. We cannot blame them since they did not force us to give them our money or information related to our wallets. They only try their luck in the form of traps, and most people who get scammed fall for it.People who are new to cryptocurrency are mostly eager to invest due to FOMO; as a result, they skip the learning process and begin to complain when they get scammed.
Newbies need to have patience and learn before starting any form of crypto investment because it is risky. They can lose money to scammers with just a single mistake, so newbies should hold on to learn first before anything.
Newbies need to have patience and learn before starting any form of crypto investment because it is risky. They can lose money to scammers with just a single mistake, so newbies should hold on to learn first before anything.
If you think that only newbies get scammed then you must be kidding, I've heard of a woman that got scammed over and over again by different scammees using same tricks, woudl you call her a newbie after her first experience, no she was either too greedy or too foolish, either way it's still her fault, I'm not saying scammers are good but at least they don't force you, you willingly fell and its fact.
Well, if person is dumb enough to just send money to someone just because they promised that they'll return more - they kinda deserve to lose it in some way. But it's still a crime that should be punished.
Have you heard of social engineering OP? Because if you haven't then you wouldn't be talking about all these false logic about scammers. Social engineering is a way for scammers to earn your trust, basically they befriend you and try to earn your trust, that's probably the most basic of social engineering because some people don't even have to befriend you, they most of the time are just strangers that would ask you some random questions but then it happens to be that those questions are a way to gauge how you are with security and if you're easy to get when it comes to scams. There's no virtue in victim blaming, you don't blame someone that's already in misery and misfortune, that's adding salt to the wound.
Yeah if you’ve been in crypto for a few years you got crazy op sec security. I yell at all my friends and family to never reuse passwords, who never use 2fa, put all their passwords in their notes on their iPhones, etc.
With crypto you gotta have high standards when it comes to safe guarding it. There are crazy scams all the time and so elaborate that even some bitcoin devs fall for them.
With crypto you gotta have high standards when it comes to safe guarding it. There are crazy scams all the time and so elaborate that even some bitcoin devs fall for them.
I have a question OP who is to be blamed and if you are to fit in shoes were you are scammed will you blame yourself for being ignorant to fall for it and give accolade to the Fraudster?
We can't twist this, whether or not the we got scammed because of ignorance, greed, high expectations, this was plan and accessed by someone to carryout in other to enrich himself off people money which is evil. I know some will argue that the victims are to be blamed, but we should also know that no one is above falling victim for scams, the Fraudster presented a service with realistic perceptions filled with lies to deceive his victims that had believe and later end up ripped of there investment and you say the victims are to be blamed. I know we Human are not satisfy and once out reward system gets triggered we become blindfolded or careless about risks involved while taken some kind of actions bur hopefully some learn from experience and some also learn from the happenings and not allow themselves do same.
Both parties involved;The Fraudster and his potential client (victim), one initiates the idea while the other take action based on the idea for the benefits of both but ends up getting disappointed, regretful and emotionally unhealthy.
The law of Karma stands regardless, whatever you that shall you surely reap. Its funny how someone will think of means to scam others and not use same thinking faculty to sort out means to help (provide for) himself , this shows how weak such a person is with a low self-esteem.
OP I will blame the Fraudster believing the victim have learnt the hard way, no need to paraphrase it or lie to ourselves about what we all know isn't good.
We can't twist this, whether or not the we got scammed because of ignorance, greed, high expectations, this was plan and accessed by someone to carryout in other to enrich himself off people money which is evil. I know some will argue that the victims are to be blamed, but we should also know that no one is above falling victim for scams, the Fraudster presented a service with realistic perceptions filled with lies to deceive his victims that had believe and later end up ripped of there investment and you say the victims are to be blamed. I know we Human are not satisfy and once out reward system gets triggered we become blindfolded or careless about risks involved while taken some kind of actions bur hopefully some learn from experience and some also learn from the happenings and not allow themselves do same.
Both parties involved;The Fraudster and his potential client (victim), one initiates the idea while the other take action based on the idea for the benefits of both but ends up getting disappointed, regretful and emotionally unhealthy.
The law of Karma stands regardless, whatever you that shall you surely reap. Its funny how someone will think of means to scam others and not use same thinking faculty to sort out means to help (provide for) himself , this shows how weak such a person is with a low self-esteem.
OP I will blame the Fraudster believing the victim have learnt the hard way, no need to paraphrase it or lie to ourselves about what we all know isn't good.
What would you get out of victim blaming though? It's the most stupid question I've seen today OP, why make it lighter on the scammer's side? They stole the money or something of worth regardless of what's the common sense or intelligence that a person have, it's not a matter of who's to blame because there's only one person that we have to blame and that's the scammer. Let me ask you this OP, say a person rapes or kills someone, do you blame the victim too? Because that's basically what you're talking about the only difference is the gravity of the situation. @Wexnident is right, no one will be blamed if there wasn't any scammer in the first place, if it's wrong to put your trust on someone then you got to blame everyone then because everyone trusts people that are close to them including you.
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Well that's one way to look at it. Not that I'd agree with it though. Yes, you can say that they shoulder a part of the blame but in reality, the problem wouldn't have occurred in the first place if there were no one who was scamming others no? The existence of scammers shouldn't be taken naturally for granted. Life isn't a game or a tournament where you'd go "Aww man, you got me. My bad" kind of thing. The act of being scammed involves two parties, the scammed, and the scammer. Of the two, who was the party that intentionally wanted to do that action (in this case to scam) to the other? The scammer. That naturally puts the majority of the blame to that party. If the scammed party intentionally wanted to get scammed then sure yea, their fault. But I doubt anyone wants to get intentionally scammed.
We cannot blame the fraudsters as they are inhumane and lacks the humanity else they won't be cheating and robbing innocent and foolish people. I think we need to be very cautious but still there are chances users can be fooled at least expected platforms I see everyday people are getting scammed through the fake e-commerce sites and all. This has to be stopped which is possible with only harsh punishment for the preparators else they will keep on figuring out new way to fool us. We need strong cybersecurity and anti scan system in place the scammers should be traced and punished.
Ofcourse they are the ones to be blamed; first of all they are the doers of this illegal action. Now the question should be, do we need to blame those who were fooled by these schemes? I am against it. Let's say thet they weren't being careful with their actions but they are just people who are having hopes. As others have mentioned, fraudsters are making these scam related activities, attractive to the eyes of people simply because they want to victimize as many as possible. This simply means they were just fooled by offers but of course if they knew it as a scam, why would they engage in the first place? They might indeed be lacking knowledge of things but in those instances, they just followed instructions turning out to be a fraud. I won't be in accordance to victim blaming. We are not all perfect and we all made mistakes at least once in our lives, making everyone of us prone of such things. 
Ahh, victim blaming I see.
Even if there are some lapses made by those who got scammed, I don't think that the blame should be shifted to them. It's not like they were willing to get scammed in the first place. After all, they might just be trying to make some money and these fraudsters took the opportunity because they see someone hasn't done their research. There will be no hacks if there are no hackers, and no fraud if there are no fraudsters. It should be simple as that, and since there are a lot of hackers and fraudsters around, we heighten our sense of security and try to make our wallets, transactions, or properties as bulletproof as possible.
Then again, humans are inherently devious and nefarious, and will always try to keep up with these security measures in order to steal from these people who aren't security conscious or aware of what's happening around them.
Even if there are some lapses made by those who got scammed, I don't think that the blame should be shifted to them. It's not like they were willing to get scammed in the first place. After all, they might just be trying to make some money and these fraudsters took the opportunity because they see someone hasn't done their research. There will be no hacks if there are no hackers, and no fraud if there are no fraudsters. It should be simple as that, and since there are a lot of hackers and fraudsters around, we heighten our sense of security and try to make our wallets, transactions, or properties as bulletproof as possible.
Then again, humans are inherently devious and nefarious, and will always try to keep up with these security measures in order to steal from these people who aren't security conscious or aware of what's happening around them.
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