How possible can a forum memeber visiting foreign local board here? - page 2.

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Quote from: AVE5 on April 23, 2024, 05:32:19 AM

Is there any penalty resultant of a bitcointalk forum memeber to double Cross in accessing and also contributing to foreigners local board discussions?
I thought of this because the pool of knowledge and learning is being way too broad and versatile which possibly I think that interested forum memeber can as well visit some foreigners local board and acquire some fact of knowledges maybe even have something profitable to contribute to the board as concerned.

I know I'll be next question how is it possible to cope with the foreigners local board since they specifically speaks their native language. So there I'll suggest using the translator and how about someone who has basic skills to be fluent with the language?
I'm just being optimistic about this because right in my local board, there are interesting discussions going right there which is not discussed in the general boards so I think we can as much also acquire to enhance our aspirations with our bitcoin investment and as well adopt some profitable everyday life lessions at the foreigners local boards.

Just a thought and hope that doesn't have room for breaking the forums policies and no penalty resultant?

Well what I know about this from all what I have read about the rules is that you must be able to speak the language and if you are good in the language then you can simply chip in their conversation and feel among, it's simple as ABC but there is particular rule in the community that prohibits google translate or any tools used for translation and besides it's always very different to write in language that you fluent even the translator makes some error sometimes.

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There are certain rules in the forum that must be obeyed and must not be violated, one of which is rule number 27 (Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ) which does not allow using automatic translation just to post translated content on Local boards. As long as you master a local language other than your own, there is no problem if you want to have integrity with members from other local boards.

I take the example of the thread created by GazetaBitcoin and fillippone, due to being hampered by other local languages, they asked other members for help in translating their best posts on different local boards to expand quality posts while also helping other members who are still hampered by languages other than their mother tongue. Your ability to master several other local languages can make it easier for you to express quality content on different boards, as long as other members can read and understand the contents of your posts, there is no penalty for you.

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Quote from: Zaguru12 on April 23, 2024, 05:39:20 AM

The thing is if you speak and understand the language of other boards than you own local boards then it is not a problem to interact with them. We have seen reputable members frequently engaging in different local boards because they understand the language used there. Should you also find a thread or post worthy in a local board you can use translator to translate it for your personal consumption. What is prohibited is using translator to communicate within that local board. It shows you don’t speak that language and you don’t belong there

Exactly. If you are good in other foreign boards and you have brilliant ideas to share with others, then why not? Posting to other local boards is not prohibited, but posting on your own local board using any translator is a big violation in the forum. Otherwise, if you are consistently known doing this, you will be out in the forum in no time. Being aware of this will definitely help you stay in the forum longer, as long as you want.

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There is no problem with that, just don't derail threads and posts randomly as if you're part of their actual local community. It's okay to ask and respect the local boards as they've got rules as well but in general, the forum rules are in effect.

Quote from: promise444c5 on April 23, 2024, 05:45:07 PM

but I need to ask a question about using this translator tool outside the local board section to reply a question that's written in a local language, does the rules hold outside the LB section to avoid making any silly mistakes which might eventually earn a ban for a user Tongue

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The rule is the rule. If you're a local and you want to translate something outside LB or from LB, do it with your capacity and not with any translation tool to avoid any problem.

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Quote from: _act_ on April 23, 2024, 05:35:53 AM

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27. Using automated translation tools to post translated content in Local boards is not allowed.

Never thought this rule really existed actually so surprised that i didn't
even noticed it all along but I need to ask a question about using this translator tool outside the local board section to reply a question that's written in a local language, does the rules hold outside the LB section to avoid making any silly mistakes which might eventually earn a ban for a user Tongue

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hope that is not a violation though. there are translate to English add-ons in our browsers these days.

the Nigerian local board writes their text in English which most probably everyone here had once tried replying. if they were just writing their local language or Fench i think we would not try to reply to their threads. and also they have interesting topics especially because a lot is going on in that country related to cryptocurrency. most of the time, we can relate.

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Currently there is Google Translate that we can use to make posts in other languages that we never use at all. It's not a problem if it doesn't deviate from the original topic, but if the person is careless and makes a post that goes off topic, just report the member to moderators, there is a report button below.

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Quote from: AVE5 on April 23, 2024, 05:32:19 AM

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Hmm that's pretty good to discuss it...

There is absolutely nothing wrong with this, if you know how to write the language of the local board, then there is no problem in joining the conversations of these people. Yes, there is a point that the rules of BitcoinTalk must be followed, i.e., palagrasim or trnslate posts are prohibited, Apart from this, you have open permission, and can present your position in the thread of the local board. Because this is one of the contributions that members make to each other, that is, discussion on the topic. Respond in his local language.

I have seen many well-reputable members who are consistently engaging with the local board and contributing to it. In this regard, our moderator, Sir Xal0lex, who is a very capable and efficient member of BTT, regularly replays every member in our Pakistan Thread in local language, although he is not an Urdu native, he is able to do so in his local language according to his ability for which we are very grateful to Xal0lex, he keeps guiding us on every topic.

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Quote from: AVE5 on April 23, 2024, 05:32:19 AM

Is there any penalty resultant of a bitcointalk forum memeber to double Cross in accessing and also contributing to foreigners local board discussions?

There's nothing wrong in accessing and contributing to other local boards but you must do it without a translator. If it's a board you understand and can write on, go ahead with that. You aren't breaking any rule here. I've gone through a few local board discussions in the past because of some posters I was following so I could see how they also wrote in their local boards. There's that prompt at the bottom of local boards with option of translating whatever language to English language. I used that to understand whatever that was discussed but I never dared to post in them because that would be me using translator for it, and that's breaking a rule here.

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You are free to visit any local board, whether you understand the language or not;
You are only allowed to discuss in the boards you are fluent with their language;
This is to minimise spam and low quality posts;
If there are interesting threads in your local board that is not in general forum, you can translate such thread to the general forum.

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As far as i know, if those country are not english speaking locality then you have to avoid them, you can read post from there with a translator but you must not use translator to reply there because you aren't going to write as the native speaker does. So whatmore?
If you find any local board post you wish to intrude on what they are saying here, I will say create a topic at the english board and quote it over there so that people can use english to discussed about deeply than you compromising yourself by trying to involved yourself in all local board just to have their discussions. So to avoid much drama don't involve yourself with other local board by posting there rather pick an interesting discussion over there make it with a topic in the english board.

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The local boards indeed contain many valuable discussions and topics that may be exclusive. However, why not visit these foreign local boards to try to learn their languages and understand and read what they write in their native language using one of the tools without attempting to contribute and engage with them in the discussions using automatic translation tools? Because your contributions are at a rate of 90%, it will be incomprehensible to some, as these tools are useless and violate the forum's rules.

If you have your own local board, you can participate in its discussions. You can continue these discussions until the end, answer their questions easily, and express your opinions that everyone there will understand without your posts looking spammy. Regardless of the local boards, English is the main language understood by everyone here, and undoubtedly, in multiple forum sections, you will find these discussions in English, and you can contribute to them.

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You are allowed to join in the discussion on any local board as long as you have the ability to express your thoughts and understand what has been discussed. And if you say you need the help of translator then you have no reason to join in the discussion at all, translator doesn't even do the job on the basic level and usage of such tools will get you banned temporarily or permanently.

Luckily there are many local boards here have discussions in the English language itself, so if you have anything to say in it then don't hesitate.

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Quote from: _act_ on April 23, 2024, 05:35:53 AM

No penalty if you know how to speak and write their local. If you are using a translator, you violate one of the rules of Bitcointalk.

Thanks for sharing this rule as I forgot it a long time but fortunately never broke it hehe, well this is a good reply to your (OP) question. I also once tried to visit other local boards like the Russia, and tried Google translator to understand what they are talking about but translators are not so helping because locals talk informally, and besides Russia, I visited Bangladesh thread as well, It was also hard to understand their discussion using a translator.

I visited India and Nigeria threads, they were easily understandable without a translator and AFAIK I may have made any posts but I think I didn't (ahh my memory is not so good now) well, the point is, we can make post in other threads, but as act has said we should not use the translator and if we will use they can easily be caught, thanks OP for asking this question as this has reminded me some facts and rules.

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There is no limitations to any board of the forum because there are also users from different countries that reside and earn a living outside their country and sometimes the get used to the common language over there and they can make contributions and also visit such local board so far as they know about discussions going on and can give their own opinion to discussions over there in the common language but just like other users stated, using translators just to maneuver to other local board is against the forum rules.

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Quote from: AVE5 on April 23, 2024, 05:32:19 AM

Is there any penalty resultant of a bitcointalk forum memeber to double Cross in accessing and also contributing to foreigners local board discussions?
I thought of this because the pool of knowledge and learning is being way too broad and versatile which possibly I think that interested forum memeber can as well visit some foreigners local board and acquire some fact of knowledges maybe even have something profitable to contribute to the board as concerned.

I have seen threads where some reputable members encourage people to translate their posts into other languages. I must confess that most of these posts are enlightening and deserve such translation into other languages. You can translate your post or contribute to other local boards but it should be relevant and without the use of a translator.

Quote from: SatoPrincess on April 23, 2024, 06:35:32 AM

As stated in the forum rules using a translator to post in local boards is prohibited. I’m not sure what the interest is in local boards where you do not understand their language or culture. Someone made a similar topic a few days ago. You should read it:
[Question] In Regards to using translators on local boards

But reading with the aid of a translator is not against forum rules. The OP also said that he has basic knowledge about other languages which could help him in posting in such local board.

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Quote from: AVE5 on April 23, 2024, 05:32:19 AM

Is there any penalty resultant of a bitcointalk forum memeber to double Cross in accessing and also contributing to foreigners local board discussions?

Of course you'll be slammed with a penalty for using an automated tool.

The rule only frowns at the use of automated tools for writing, but it doesn't say if you're bilingual or multi lingual you shouldn't interact in two or more local boards. So if you're fluent in a particular language, you are free to interact with the locals as long as you do not use a translator. Also, have it at the back of your mind that if you try to play any tricks, you will be caught and penalized.

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Quote from: AVE5 on April 23, 2024, 05:32:19 AM

Is there any penalty resultant of a bitcointalk forum memeber to double Cross in accessing and also contributing to foreigners local board discussions?

Only a promiscuous person will engaged doing that, you're free to go there merits, read and contribute there as long as you understand their language, but not that when you're an American claiming you're African, that is uncalled for, we are free to contribute at any board as long as we have something to offer, from Nigerian local board, we do receive some non Nigerians meriting posts and some contributing as well in the normal English language they understand apart from the local pidgin which they may not understand, all that is needed is for someone to be plain and truthful to himself.

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It is all down to interests. There is usually no purpose for a user to want to join a discussion of a local group who are living a different reality from his and speaking the same language. If you happen to be living in the country and cannot yet speak the language you have some interest in the discussions and can technically be allowed to communicate there, it'll also be a tool to learn the language quicker.

But someone who has no interest in that region, wasn't mentioned or quoted in a conversation and cannot speak the language should not join discussions there.

- Jay -

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Those boards are mearnt for users to interact with each other & for all I know we have people that can speak and write in several languages which isn't against the forum , and not being fluent in a language is acceptable as it's a way of learning the language as far as I know, but I believe when you use this to use this to your advantage for gigs such as translation jobs and your language interaction isn't fluent then this is as good as defrauding the other party which will put you in trouble for sure..

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