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Comparing the first day with the second day it looks like India was doing far better on the first day. They have been able to gain a some what respectable lead on the second day. What England team did on the second on a track they don't know is very impressive. They got their new and experienced spinners to continuously bowl on a pitch that is new for them. The way they were able to get wickets is impressive when I think that Indian batters are very good against spin in their home ground. The game is still on and anyone can clinch it from each other with proper discipline.
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Jaiswal has been doing great with the bat and has been consistent. Rohit got out which I was not expecting so early in the game. Shubhman Gill is on the pitch and he would need to buil a partnership with Jaiswal to get a good lead. I am expecting same agressive approach today from the Indian batters.
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England all wiped out on the first day for 246, except Ben Stokes none of the batters played well. He got 70 runs at a stage when England had lost 8 wickets and were struggling to reach 200. I like this all-rounder that England has, he is not only good with the bat down the order but can bowl as well. The Indian start has been good both Jaiswal and Rohit have been after the English bowling, Jaiswal is on 42 and he should reach his half-century. It doesn't look like this Indian side will miss Virat Kohli as they have a good replacement for him. Shubhman Gill has been out of touch but in this test match, he will regain his lost form back. To date, he has the best timing when he places the ball which is why it goes to the boundary in a zip.

Jaiswal look like mini version of Sehwag, starting off every match with a boundary.

At the end of the day India is at 119/1, unfortunately Rohit dismissed by Jack leach. I just wondered why England came with one pace bowling attack which is really surprising and with two inexperienced spinners they can't able to control the flow of run which is a big mistake in my opinion.

As I predicted, we can set the template of this match for inning defeat if players utilize this chance and bat as deep as possible.
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England all wiped out on the first day for 246, except Ben Stokes none of the batters played well. He got 70 runs at a stage when England had lost 8 wickets and were struggling to reach 200. I like this all-rounder that England has, he is not only good with the bat down the order but can bowl as well. The Indian start has been good both Jaiswal and Rohit have been after the English bowling, Jaiswal is on 42 and he should reach his half-century. It doesn't look like this Indian side will miss Virat Kohli as they have a good replacement for him. Shubhman Gill has been out of touch but in this test match, he will regain his lost form back. To date, he has the best timing when he places the ball which is why it goes to the boundary in a zip.
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The game started with English winning the toss and choosing to bat first. The replacement for Virat is Shubhman Gill and with his current form, it looks like a bad decision. Ashwin, Axar, and Jadeja are playing which means the pitch will support spin bowling. With Ashwin, India does have depth with batting and of course, we have seen Bhumrah becoming a batter when needed. A good team composition for the first test, and they can defeat the English side with ease.
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Rajat Patidar would has been selected as a replacement of Virat Kohli. It is uncertain whether he will be part of the team that will play tomorrow against England. He made is debut last year when he was part of the ODI team and I would say his performance was okay.


Until now, no one has been named as replacement for Virat Kohli which means they are going to play with the existing squad members and I feel the current team has the ability to dominate Englishmen even without Virat.

Just now saw the statistics and comparison for the first match which is about to happen in Hyderabad. India is having edge over England in all three departments, and I am expecting an innings defeat if ENG try to go with bazeball in Indian pitch.

Jimmy Anderson is coming back at the age of 41, and exited to see what he will do and also 500 wickets for Ashwin is loading.
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Rajat Patidar would has been selected as a replacement of Virat Kohli. It is uncertain whether he will be part of the team that will play tomorrow against England. He made is debut last year when he was part of the ODI team and I would say his performance was okay.

BTW, Shubhman Gill got the Polly Umrigar Award for Best International cricketer for 2022- 2023, he was really good before he got dengue. The same award was given to Virat Kohli in 2014 when he was only 14 year old. He did mentioned on his x.com handle about it as he was present at the award show at that time.
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Upcoming test series update:

Virat Kohli won't be part of the first two test match due to personal reason. Harry Brooke has also pulled out of the tour citing personal reason. He is supposed to to join the team for the last two matches. Who do you think will be replacing Virat Kohli and Harry Brooke?
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I still feel KL will be the first choice if he do well in the IPL and in the interview Dravid also mentioned IPL performances will be taken and could be the ultimate criteria to form the team.

My XI will be : Jaiswal, Hitman, Kohli, SKY, KL/Pant,Hardik, Rinku, Jaddu, Kuldeep, Bumrah, Shami.

But as you said if Hardik gone injured then it will be one batsmen short.


On KL, I can only say that i hope selectors don't have a goldfish memory.

Pant is one of my favorite cricketers and IMO the best WK batter I've ever seen after Gilchrist in the test cricket (Still behind Thala in ODI). I've been following him since U-19 WC (2016) so i have a soft corner for him, he's an asset for Team India in ODI and Test formats but i am afraid to say he's not even in the top 20 Indian players when it comes to T-20 format. He was given more than enough chances (60 odd T-20I) due to his reputation of hitting clean at will but he botched up his T-20 career.

People argue that he clicks almost every time in the IPL but they forget that he bats in the top 4 for Delhi and that's not the case when it comes to the national team. His usual number for the Indian team is middle order or lower middle order at best and he failed there miserably.

Good to see @JSRAW being active on the local board and it does help us brother.
Bhai Irl i am a cricket fanatic as far as Test cricket goes. For T-20 it's all lols and giggles with the mix of betting so i always jump in if I come across any good cricket discussion.
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Good to see @JSRAW being active on the local board and it does help us brother. My one point as to which player would be part of the T20WC is to wait for the IPL to complete and not rush to the conclusion now. There would be some new names on the team and there would be some old names, we won't know it now. IPL is where the selectors have started focusing before Ranji and other domestic cricket. Who will get selected is another thing, who will not get selected is something we would need to focus on.

I do not think Rohit or Virat will be part of the squad. You cannot forget their batting in the past T20WC only because they played well in the ODIWC. I do not think KL Rahul is suitable for the T20 format but I cannot omit that he is the captain of one of the franchise teams. I do not know what is the situation with Hardik or Panth and  Sanju Samson what I know is that they have to do their best in the upcoming IPL to be part of the team. The selectors will be only looking at the IPL as it is a 90 days league and it will show the true form of a player.
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Pretty sure Rohit-Jaiswal will open. WK, I still think selectors will go with Rahul, 3rd no idea in case Pandya will not be there, and Dube is not Pandya's replacement.

This is my probable playing XI (in that order):

Rohit, Jaiswal, Kohli, Surya, KL, Rinku, Pandya, Jadeja, Kuldip, Shami/Siraj, Bumrah.

Looks excellent team to me. Pandya in team gives undeniable batting depth to the batting order.
India can't afford to go with only 5 bowling options, especially when Hardik has a habit of breaking down out of nowhere.

Playing XI is a tough nut to crack this time. Even 15 member squad will give a headache to selectors. Don't forget you need 1 backup opener, 1 seam and 1 spin backup all rounder, 1 WK back and 1 seam backup.
I still feel KL will be the first choice if he do well in the IPL and in the interview Dravid also mentioned IPL performances will be taken and could be the ultimate criteria to form the team.

My XI will be : Jaiswal, Hitman, Kohli, SKY, KL/Pant,Hardik, Rinku, Jaddu, Kuldeep, Bumrah, Shami.

But as you said if Hardik gone injured then it will be one batsmen short.

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U-19 World Cup has started and India is playing its first game today against Bangladesh. Bangladesh won the toss and chose to bowl as the initial conditions were suitable for seam bowling. They were able to get 2 wickets in the beginning still, but Indian batters managed to get to a total of 251 runs in their full 50 overs and lost 7 wickets. Bangladesh's batting has started and they haven't lost a single wicket with a score of 13 runs. India is the favorite in this year's World Cup and is the previous World Cup winner. I am not aware of the players participating in this Cup but I am certain that the captain of the Indian team is competent.

I thought of creating a post, but I felt none of us would be interested in a U-19 World Cup. I have been following the match and it is now clear that India will win it The asking run rate is above 7 for Bangladesh whereas they have already lost 4 wickets. The pressure on these two players namely Khan and James is so much that they will eventually will lose their wickets. The reason is that they would try to go after the bowlers believing that they are now set to hit boundaries. This is where they would commit a mistake and lose their own wickets. After these two guys, Bangladesh does not have good batters to chase the target.
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U-19 World Cup has started and India is playing its first game today against Bangladesh. Bangladesh won the toss and chose to bowl as the initial conditions were suitable for seam bowling. They were able to get 2 wickets in the beginning still, but Indian batters managed to get to a total of 251 runs in their full 50 overs and lost 7 wickets. Bangladesh's batting has started and they haven't lost a single wicket with a score of 13 runs. India is the favorite in this year's World Cup and is the previous World Cup winner. I am not aware of the players participating in this Cup but I am certain that the captain of the Indian team is competent.
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KL isn't very bad to be honest

Yeah, he's not bad but worst. You don't have to believe me, check his last T-20 WC numbers.

2022-23 T-20 WC : 4,9,9,50,51,4. Those 50,51 runs innings came against BAN and ZIM. After that, he was dropped and didn't feature in a single T-20 match for India.

Pretty sure Rohit-Jaiswal will open. WK, I still think selectors will go with Rahul, 3rd no idea in case Pandya will not be there, and Dube is not Pandya's replacement.

This is my probable playing XI (in that order):

Rohit, Jaiswal, Kohli, Surya, KL, Rinku, Pandya, Jadeja, Kuldip, Shami/Siraj, Bumrah.

Looks excellent team to me. Pandya in team gives undeniable batting depth to the batting order.
India can't afford to go with only 5 bowling options, especially when Hardik has a habit of breaking down out of nowhere.

Playing XI is a tough nut to crack this time. Even 15 member squad will give a headache to selectors. Don't forget you need 1 backup opener, 1 seam and 1 spin backup all rounder, 1 WK back and 1 seam backup.
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Pretty sure Rohit-Jaiswal will open. WK, I still think selectors will go with Rahul, 3rd no idea in case Pandya will not be there, and Dube is not Pandya's replacement.

This is my probable playing XI (in that order):

Rohit, Jaiswal, Kohli, Surya, KL, Rinku, Pandya, Jadeja, Kuldip, Shami/Siraj, Bumrah.

Looks excellent team to me. Pandya in team gives undeniable batting depth to the batting order.

Surya Kumar Yadav has already been ruled out till February 2024 due to his injury. Not sure whether he will be part of the squad for the World Cup. We will only come to know if he is fit to play IPL 2024. Hardik Pandya will not likely be playing the IPL so consider him not playing for the Cup. Now, if Shubham Dubey plays well in the IPL he will be in the team for sure. The same goes for Kohli, KL Rahul, and Jadeja their performance in IPL will be responsible for their selection. The complete selection would be based on the player's performance in IPL as after IPL the World Cup would start.
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The combination of team heavily depends on the availability of Hardik, we assume that he will be completely fit to play throughout the tournament but what if he got injured in the mid-season which forces the captain to see him as only the 6th bowler option and if they look Hardik as their 5th bowler then it's big gamble.
Selectors may look at Shivam Dube as a replacement for Hardik Pandya, I do not think he's good bowler as Pandya but he can fill in couple overs, or when other bowlers are getting thrashed and captain wants to change up things a bit.
Still I am really confused about the probable XI for WC and who is going to be the opener/WK/3rd seamer.

Pretty sure Rohit-Jaiswal will open. WK, I still think selectors will go with Rahul, 3rd no idea in case Pandya will not be there, and Dube is not Pandya's replacement.

This is my probable playing XI (in that order):

Rohit, Jaiswal, Kohli, Surya, KL, Rinku, Pandya, Jadeja, Kuldip, Shami/Siraj, Bumrah.

Looks excellent team to me. Pandya in team gives undeniable batting depth to the batting order.
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The combination of team heavily depends on the availability of Hardik, we assume that he will be completely fit to play throughout the tournament but what if he got injured in the mid-season which forces the captain to see him as only the 6th bowler option and if they look Hardik as their 5th bowler then it's big gamble.

Selectors may look at Shivam Dube as a replacement for Hardik Pandya, I do not think he's good bowler as Pandya but he can fill in couple overs, or when other bowlers are getting thrashed and captain wants to change up things a bit.

Dube can Bowl maximum of 2 overs in between over 6 and 14, trying anything different is just a death wish but Hardik is complete bowler who can Bowl full quota overs in the middle or death overs.

Shivam Dube is more like batting all rounder like opposite of Axar/Jaddu.

Still I am really confused about the probable XI for WC and who is going to be the opener/WK/3rd seamer.
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The combination of team heavily depends on the availability of Hardik, we assume that he will be completely fit to play throughout the tournament but what if he got injured in the mid-season which forces the captain to see him as only the 6th bowler option and if they look Hardik as their 5th bowler then it's big gamble.

Selectors may look at Shivam Dube as a replacement for Hardik Pandya, I do not think he's good bowler as Pandya but he can fill in couple overs, or when other bowlers are getting thrashed and captain wants to change up things a bit.
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Likely a typo, and he meant KL Rahul there. I don't think Ishan Kishan is going to make it, imo it will be Jitesh and KL, and Jitesh as backup. Also will a thing to see how KL will do in middle order batting position in IPL.

Dhruv Jurel has so far did nothing in IPL matches he played, I don't see any chance for him, and don't think they gonna take him in WC squad even if he performs good in upcoming ipl or test against England, provided he gets to play there in first place.


Jeez KL is a horrible choice at this moment, do people forget how he performed in the T-20 WC? We shouldn't mix one format's form with other formats. Selectors gave SKY a short run in the ODI WC and Tests due to his t-20 records and look at his performance. I believe KL is not in any scheme of things as far as T-20 is concerned. 

Jurel's SR is above 170 with an average of 21-ish which is considered exceptionally well if you are batting at 7th-8th positions and he did more than enough in his first IPL outings despite being part of Punjab, which IMO is one of the worst franchises for cricketers.

KL isn't very bad to be honest because the way Jitesh approached this series showed he still need experience to make decisions as per the situation but he just tried to hit and thrown his wickets and Jurel, I don't think India will take newbie into their squad even as backup in my opinion. Ishan Kishan can be the one because he has the ability to hit from ball one.

The combination of team heavily depends on the availability of Hardik, we assume that he will be completely fit to play throughout the tournament but what if he got injured in the mid-season which forces the captain to see him as only the 6th bowler option and if they look Hardik as their 5th bowler then it's big gamble.




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Likely a typo, and he meant KL Rahul there. I don't think Ishan Kishan is going to make it, imo it will be Jitesh and KL, and Jitesh as backup. Also will a thing to see how KL will do in middle order batting position in IPL.

Dhruv Jurel has so far did nothing in IPL matches he played, I don't see any chance for him, and don't think they gonna take him in WC squad even if he performs good in upcoming ipl or test against England, provided he gets to play there in first place.

Jeez KL is a horrible choice at this moment, do people forget how he performed in the T-20 WC? We shouldn't mix one format's form with other formats. Selectors gave SKY a short run in the ODI WC and Tests due to his t-20 records and look at his performance. I believe KL is not in any scheme of things as far as T-20 is concerned. 

Ok, Surya's example makes me agree with you. But still I'll reserve my judgement until eof IPL, since KL is going to play in middle order this season, that'll tell us how he performs at this position and in this format.

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Jurel's SR is above 170 with an average of 21-ish which is considered exceptionally well if you are batting at 7th-8th positions and he did more than enough in his first IPL outings despite being part of Punjab, which IMO is one of the worst franchises for cricketers.

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