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I think Pakistani team is not playing like a team . They should focus on your goal to win the World cup. Pakistani International cricket team is not weak team but it want to play matches against weak team and they want to be happy to win against small teams. But by playing against small teams , Pakistani team can't win the tournament. In comparison, Indian team is best team and want to play against big teams and they enjoy to play against big players and that's why they are real winners but in last World they lose the final due to bad luck . I think there are 90 percent chances of India to win the World cup. Australia is good team and and they are also favorite to win this World Cup. I think,luck matters a lot in the final of World Cup and that team will win which will play and luck will be in their favor.

Is Pakistan team decide to play with small teams?
Yes there are some mistakes in the team which should be resolved if they want to stand at prominent level in World Cup. But they are doing well.
Like we can take an example from the yesterday match. USA team is not a big team like others. But Pakistan was not able to defeat them. They made only 159 runs against them and USA tied the match and win the match in super over. You may see the performance of Muhammad Amir in Super over he bowled three wides and gave 18 runs in an over. Conclusion is that they have some mistakes which they should resolve and they don't decide to play with small teams only ICC decide about that.

Basically Pakistani team main issue is consistency. Their players don't have consistency that's why sometimes they are not able to win against small teams too. We can see sometimes they win against top teams but sometimes they lost against small teams.
And you shared some thoughts about the yesterday T20I World Cup match. I think they lost the match due Amir. He didn't bowl well the super over. He gave many extra runs to the USA team. And USA team took advantage of this mistake and won the match in super over. And I think the last over should be given to Naseem Shah I believe that he could bowl well but he gave over to Haris Rauf. I hope Pakistan will not make these mistakes in future. And will play well.

The lack of consistency in the performance of the players of the Pakistan team is proven again because yesterday the Pakistan team was defeated against the United States. Pakistan team has great things to say but their performance lacks consistency. Due to which they lost the match against weak USA and started the World Cup journey. To be honest, I feel very bad for Pakistan. If Pakistan batsmen could have batted responsibly, yesterday's match would have been won very easily against USA. However, the batsmen and bowlers of the Pakistan team did not perform well against the USA, they would have defeated the USA by a huge margin if they had performed well. On the other hand, USA won against Pakistan with a very good performance. USA batting and bowling performed better than Pakistan at the beginning due to which USA easily won against Pakistan. Yesterday's match was undoubtedly a high voltage match.

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Quote from: Cheema02 on June 07, 2024, 03:47:16 AM

Main reason of Pakistan lose match against United states is Haris Rouf bad bowling in last over. he didn't defend 15 runs in last over and bowl full toss to United States basteman. also in super over Muhammad Amir disappointing performance very bad bowling give to much extra runs and United States Bateman score 19 runs in Super over. If we look at the wide score is 7 runs extra giving in super over you didn't deserve to win this match. United States are now favourite team to qualify for the super eight of this world cup. Pakistan have no chances to beat India in upcoming match 9th June because their moral and confidence are down.

Rauf always came as the help for the Pakistan team in important matches and also adjusted to the Pakistan team in good time. However, in today’s match, the Pakistan team almost lost hope in the bowling but when he came then he again hyped to it as he had done the last over which was too thriller and also the overs that he done before, I think nobody can do this. He is the best player for them but didn't perform. He picked just one wicket but as he was defending score was such a genius style. He is a very good player but had a bad day on this match.

Quote from: Cheema02 on June 07, 2024, 03:47:16 AM

Pakistan needs to kick off Azam khan and Hairs rouf from team if they win the next match in world cup.

At the place of Azam Khan, there must be Imad Wasim, because there is no place of Azam Khan in the team. He cannot do the batting and also cannot do wicket-keeping either while he is too fatty and cannot even run while fielding but if there were Imad Wasim then Imad could easily make good and also run fast.
Maybe, if today Imad Wasim was playing there then there could chance for Pakistan to hit more scores and at least touch 170 then the team Pakistan can win from the earlier part, and not have to go in super over if Imad Wasim would be there.

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Quote from: Nanga Parbat on June 06, 2024, 10:47:56 AM

I think Pakistani team is not playing like a team . They should focus on your goal to win the World cup. Pakistani International cricket team is not weak team but it want to play matches against weak team and they want to be happy to win against small teams. But by playing against small teams , Pakistani team can't win the tournament. In comparison, Indian team is best team and want to play against big teams and they enjoy to play against big players and that's why they are real winners but in last World they lose the final due to bad luck . I think there are 90 percent chances of India to win the World cup. Australia is good team and and they are also favorite to win this World Cup. I think,luck matters a lot in the final of World Cup and that team will win which will play and luck will be in their favor.

Is Pakistan team decide to play with small teams?
Yes there are some mistakes in the team which should be resolved if they want to stand at prominent level in World Cup. But they are doing well.
Like we can take an example from the yesterday match. USA team is not a big team like others. But Pakistan was not able to defeat them. They made only 159 runs against them and USA tied the match and win the match in super over. You may see the performance of Muhammad Amir in Super over he bowled three wides and gave 18 runs in an over. Conclusion is that they have some mistakes which they should resolve and they don't decide to play with small teams only ICC decide about that.

Main reason of Pakistan lose match against United states is Haris Rouf bad bowling in last over. he didn't defend 15 runs in last over and bowl full toss to United States basteman. also in super over Muhammad Amir disappointing performance very bad bowling give to much extra runs and United States Bateman score 19 runs in Super over. If we look at the wide score is 7 runs extra giving in super over you didn't deserve to win this match. United States are now favourite team to qualify for the super eight of this world cup. Pakistan have no chances to beat India in upcoming match 9th June because their moral and confidence are down. Pakistan needs to kick off Azam khan and Hairs rouf from team if they win the next match in world cup.

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I think Pakistani team is not playing like a team . They should focus on your goal to win the World cup. Pakistani International cricket team is not weak team but it want to play matches against weak team and they want to be happy to win against small teams. But by playing against small teams , Pakistani team can't win the tournament. In comparison, Indian team is best team and want to play against big teams and they enjoy to play against big players and that's why they are real winners but in last World they lose the final due to bad luck . I think there are 90 percent chances of India to win the World cup. Australia is good team and and they are also favorite to win this World Cup. I think,luck matters a lot in the final of World Cup and that team will win which will play and luck will be in their favor.

Is Pakistan team decide to play with small teams?
Yes there are some mistakes in the team which should be resolved if they want to stand at prominent level in World Cup. But they are doing well.
Like we can take an example from the yesterday match. USA team is not a big team like others. But Pakistan was not able to defeat them. They made only 159 runs against them and USA tied the match and win the match in super over. You may see the performance of Muhammad Amir in Super over he bowled three wides and gave 18 runs in an over. Conclusion is that they have some mistakes which they should resolve and they don't decide to play with small teams only ICC decide about that.

Basically Pakistani team main issue is consistency. Their players don't have consistency that's why sometimes they are not able to win against small teams too. We can see sometimes they win against top teams but sometimes they lost against small teams.
And you shared some thoughts about the yesterday T20I World Cup match. I think they lost the match due Amir. He didn't bowl well the super over. He gave many extra runs to the USA team. And USA team took advantage of this mistake and won the match in super over. And I think the last over should be given to Naseem Shah I believe that he could bowl well but he gave over to Haris Rauf. I hope Pakistan will not make these mistakes in future. And will play well.

I think all players of Pakistani team are referenced players and nobody came in the team with his talent. But I am surprised to hear your good words for Pakistani team . Because I am seeing the Pakistani team from the last 2 years ,their performance is going down and down . Management did not solve the problem and if they didn't solve the performance,team will lose big matches against Australia or India or England. Because I think, Pakistani team will play semi final but it will lose in the semi final. Now ,my question is if the Pakistani team will play semi final against Australia and it will lose badly,that is high quality team and management choosed the best players from the country. I think,in Pakistan cricket only money and reference matters and without money,you will be out of the game and nobody will help you.

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I think Pakistani team is not playing like a team . They should focus on your goal to win the World cup. Pakistani International cricket team is not weak team but it want to play matches against weak team and they want to be happy to win against small teams. But by playing against small teams , Pakistani team can't win the tournament. In comparison, Indian team is best team and want to play against big teams and they enjoy to play against big players and that's why they are real winners but in last World they lose the final due to bad luck . I think there are 90 percent chances of India to win the World cup. Australia is good team and and they are also favorite to win this World Cup. I think,luck matters a lot in the final of World Cup and that team will win which will play and luck will be in their favor.

Is Pakistan team decide to play with small teams?
Yes there are some mistakes in the team which should be resolved if they want to stand at prominent level in World Cup. But they are doing well.
Like we can take an example from the yesterday match. USA team is not a big team like others. But Pakistan was not able to defeat them. They made only 159 runs against them and USA tied the match and win the match in super over. You may see the performance of Muhammad Amir in Super over he bowled three wides and gave 18 runs in an over. Conclusion is that they have some mistakes which they should resolve and they don't decide to play with small teams only ICC decide about that.

Basically Pakistani team main issue is consistency. Their players don't have consistency that's why sometimes they are not able to win against small teams too. We can see sometimes they win against top teams but sometimes they lost against small teams.
And you shared some thoughts about the yesterday T20I World Cup match. I think they lost the match due Amir. He didn't bowl well the super over. He gave many extra runs to the USA team. And USA team took advantage of this mistake and won the match in super over. And I think the last over should be given to Naseem Shah I believe that he could bowl well but he gave over to Haris Rauf. I hope Pakistan will not make these mistakes in future. And will play well.

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Quote from: Nanga Parbat on June 06, 2024, 10:47:56 AM

I think Pakistani team is not playing like a team . They should focus on your goal to win the World cup. Pakistani International cricket team is not weak team but it want to play matches against weak team and they want to be happy to win against small teams. But by playing against small teams , Pakistani team can't win the tournament. In comparison, Indian team is best team and want to play against big teams and they enjoy to play against big players and that's why they are real winners but in last World they lose the final due to bad luck . I think there are 90 percent chances of India to win the World cup. Australia is good team and and they are also favorite to win this World Cup. I think,luck matters a lot in the final of World Cup and that team will win which will play and luck will be in their favor.

Is Pakistan team decide to play with small teams?
Yes there are some mistakes in the team which should be resolved if they want to stand at prominent level in World Cup. But they are doing well.
Like we can take an example from the yesterday match. USA team is not a big team like others. But Pakistan was not able to defeat them. They made only 159 runs against them and USA tied the match and win the match in super over. You may see the performance of Muhammad Amir in Super over he bowled three wides and gave 18 runs in an over. Conclusion is that they have some mistakes which they should resolve and they don't decide to play with small teams only ICC decide about that.

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Quote from: Nanga Parbat on June 04, 2024, 01:14:12 PM

Pakistani team is full with low quality players. Nobody is performing like a player and they are not taking responsibility of their country. Country invested on them but they they wasted the country's money. Pakistani team will qualify the semi final but they have no capability to win the title. Because there is no partnership making players

it isn't like that mate. I mean every team have their good players and so for Pakistan team and these players already prove their ability. But i saw their performance in recent matches which is get decreased and nowadays their performance getting very poor, that's the problem. Pakistan cricket board is strong enough and if they focus on their players, guide them in better ways, then the team will be developed and will do well in upcoming matches. They still need to practice hard, need patient, need each others helping mentality to go ahead.

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Usually I criticized Pakistani team too much due to their poor performance and system as well but still I believe they can do better because they are having few natural talented players those can do stunning performance in any condition which is their trademark as well but in last few months we are having serious decline in quality with too many players which are not deserved to be in team are creating too many problems for them which is bringing worst results for them as well.
But still if we have some good performances in this event then surely we can have this team into last four with most chances they will be lost against India as they are doing much better and competitive.

Exactly Pakistani team has some good players. But Pakistan players have a big issue which is consistency. They don't have consistency. For example if they have two good players. They will play well in one Match and in the second match they will get out earlier. And due to this they lose the match easily. Means these natural need more practice to avail consistency.
If they will do that so I will say the Pakistani team will be the best team in the world.
By the way ICC T20I World Cup has been started and I hope Pakistani team will do their best.

There was a time when India played against Pakistan and of course there was excitement among the spectators and the game between the two teams was very competitive. But now when India against Pakistan. Played with, India easily won against Pakistan. It is only because of the inconsistent performance of Pakistan players that such incidents happen. Of course the Pakistan team lacks consistency in performance, they must make up for it by maintaining consistency in performance. The performance of the current Pakistan team is definitely very bad. Because at one time, every team in the world was very afraid of the performance of Pakistan's players, but now Pakistan's players still perform fairly well, but their performance lacks consistency. Pakistan team focus on the upcoming T20 World Cup, every player of their team must perform consistently so that they can perform well with the team and finish the T20 World Cup successfully.

Pakistani team is full with low quality players. Nobody is performing like a player and they are not taking responsibility of their country. Country invested on them but they they wasted the country's money. Pakistani team will qualify the semi final but they have no capability to win the title. Because there is no partnership making players. I saw Iftikhar in the match against England, he hitter good and then he hitted the ball when it was not necessary for the team. Pakistani most players are risk taking players and they hit sixes and they are not players of single double. I know T20 is fast cricket but for win , single double matters a lot . Pakistani team have to change the combination and the should change the mindset. They have a mindset of losers ,when they switch their mindset and they will make mind to win,then they will get any kind of title.

Not all the players in the Pakistan team are of poor quality but they are performing in such a way that people are forced to say so about them. If we see the previous games of Pakistan, they used to perform with every team with great power and win. Similarly in our Bangladesh cricket, Bangladesh cricket game is deteriorating as time goes by. Compared to the smaller countries who are performing very well in T20 World Cup, as the old cricket team, the quality of playing of both Pakistan and Bangladesh teams has gone towards degradation. Therefore, their players must perform responsibly so that their country's team can perform well. Mann can return home with honors from T20 World Cup. Pakistan's bowling line is always strong but they are not able to prove it due to their sloppy performance. Of course if we watch the first T20 World Cup performance against Pakistan then we will understand well how much Pakistan has improved in their game this T20 World Cup will prove. But I hope Pakistan will perform very well.

I think Pakistani team is not playing like a team . They should focus on your goal to win the World cup. Pakistani International cricket team is not weak team but it want to play matches against weak team and they want to be happy to win against small teams. But by playing against small teams , Pakistani team can't win the tournament. In comparison, Indian team is best team and want to play against big teams and they enjoy to play against big players and that's why they are real winners but in last World they lose the final due to bad luck . I think there are 90 percent chances of India to win the World cup. Australia is good team and and they are also favorite to win this World Cup. I think,luck matters a lot in the final of World Cup and that team will win which will play and luck will be in their favor.

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Usually I criticized Pakistani team too much due to their poor performance and system as well but still I believe they can do better because they are having few natural talented players those can do stunning performance in any condition which is their trademark as well but in last few months we are having serious decline in quality with too many players which are not deserved to be in team are creating too many problems for them which is bringing worst results for them as well.
But still if we have some good performances in this event then surely we can have this team into last four with most chances they will be lost against India as they are doing much better and competitive.

Exactly Pakistani team has some good players. But Pakistan players have a big issue which is consistency. They don't have consistency. For example if they have two good players. They will play well in one Match and in the second match they will get out earlier. And due to this they lose the match easily. Means these natural need more practice to avail consistency.
If they will do that so I will say the Pakistani team will be the best team in the world.
By the way ICC T20I World Cup has been started and I hope Pakistani team will do their best.

There was a time when India played against Pakistan and of course there was excitement among the spectators and the game between the two teams was very competitive. But now when India against Pakistan. Played with, India easily won against Pakistan. It is only because of the inconsistent performance of Pakistan players that such incidents happen. Of course the Pakistan team lacks consistency in performance, they must make up for it by maintaining consistency in performance. The performance of the current Pakistan team is definitely very bad. Because at one time, every team in the world was very afraid of the performance of Pakistan's players, but now Pakistan's players still perform fairly well, but their performance lacks consistency. Pakistan team focus on the upcoming T20 World Cup, every player of their team must perform consistently so that they can perform well with the team and finish the T20 World Cup successfully.

Pakistani team is full with low quality players. Nobody is performing like a player and they are not taking responsibility of their country. Country invested on them but they they wasted the country's money. Pakistani team will qualify the semi final but they have no capability to win the title. Because there is no partnership making players. I saw Iftikhar in the match against England, he hitter good and then he hitted the ball when it was not necessary for the team. Pakistani most players are risk taking players and they hit sixes and they are not players of single double. I know T20 is fast cricket but for win , single double matters a lot . Pakistani team have to change the combination and the should change the mindset. They have a mindset of losers ,when they switch their mindset and they will make mind to win,then they will get any kind of title.

Not all the players in the Pakistan team are of poor quality but they are performing in such a way that people are forced to say so about them. If we see the previous games of Pakistan, they used to perform with every team with great power and win. Similarly in our Bangladesh cricket, Bangladesh cricket game is deteriorating as time goes by. Compared to the smaller countries who are performing very well in T20 World Cup, as the old cricket team, the quality of playing of both Pakistan and Bangladesh teams has gone towards degradation. Therefore, their players must perform responsibly so that their country's team can perform well. Mann can return home with honors from T20 World Cup. Pakistan's bowling line is always strong but they are not able to prove it due to their sloppy performance. Of course if we watch the first T20 World Cup performance against Pakistan then we will understand well how much Pakistan has improved in their game this T20 World Cup will prove. But I hope Pakistan will perform very well.

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You are right because the way the Pakistan women's team is performing will really make thousands of their cricket fans angry with them. Especially Pakistan women team lost the series due to their poor batting against West Indies and continued to perform very poorly against England. Especially Pakistan's bowling line is quite good if they work a little hard on batting and get a good training there is definitely a possibility to improve Pakistan women's team in future. So the Pakistan Cricket Board should train the Pakistan Women's team through a good course if they participate in the game like this so that they don't become a laughing stock to the world.

There is no guarantee that Pakistan women team will play well after training through good courses. Pakistan women team should see their team players are not performing well for any reason, what is their problem?They need to fix the problem urgently or they will continue to play poorly in one match after another as they have done in the two series. We have seen the Pakistan Women's team lose their home T20I and ODI series against the West Indies. Similarly, they lost the T20I series and the ODI series against England Women due to poor performances and lost the series pair. For the development of Pakistani women, domestic leagues should be organized in their country to give them adequate opportunities to improve themselves.

There are no opportunities in Pakistan for women to play and perform well. There is not better domestic cricket in Pakistan. Pakistani Women cricket team could be polish if PCB take notice on that. Otherwise, there will be more failure and that is dangerous for Pakistan because Pakistan is paying very high income to them . And at the end ,they are playing bad . I think Pakistani Women team should take break and Pakistan should work on domestic cricket. Otherwise there is no space for Pakistani Women cricket team.In domestic cricket ,when they will play,they will get confidence and we will get healthy competition.

Pakistani women cricketers need to work hard and practice more and more to improve. They have failed in the two series and should forget that failure and prepare more series with confidence so that they can play well there. Pakistan women's team may have low quality players who need to take charge of their country's cricket board to improve. If the Pakistan Women's Cricket Board is able to develop the players well then they will be able to develop themselves as confident and good players.

Pakistan women's two series failure I noticed no player in their team is consistent. Had they performed consistently, they might not have lost the two series so badly.Losing the series isn't a headache but the fact that they didn't win a game is more of a concern.

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Quote from: Nanga Parbat on June 04, 2024, 01:14:12 PM

Pakistani team is full with low quality players. Nobody is performing like a player and they are not taking responsibility of their country. Country invested on them but they they wasted the country's money. Pakistani team will qualify the semi final but they have no capability to win the title. Because there is no partnership making players. I saw Iftikhar in the match against England, he hitter good and then he hitted the ball when it was not necessary for the team. Pakistani most players are risk taking players and they hit sixes and they are not players of single double. I know T20 is fast cricket but for win , single double matters a lot . Pakistani team have to change the combination and the should change the mindset. They have a mindset of losers ,when they switch their mindset and they will make mind to win,then they will get any kind of title.

I understand your frustration with the Pakistani team performance but labeling them as low quality players is not good. Team has potential but they need to adapt and improve their strategy. Lack of partnership and irresponsible playing as we seen in England match is concerning and as you mentioned too. T20 may be fast paced but building partnerships and rotating strike is crucial. Team needs to change their approach and develop winning mindset. With right combination and shift in mentality they can overcome their limitations and achieve success. It is time for team to learn from their mistakes and step up their game. But behind the whole case still we can't say that Pakistani players are low quality players.

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Quote from: Nanga Parbat on June 04, 2024, 01:14:12 PM

Pakistani team is full with low quality players. Nobody is performing like a player and they are not taking responsibility of their country. Country invested on them but they they wasted the country's money. Pakistani team will qualify the semi final but they have no capability to win the title. Because there is no partnership making players. I saw Iftikhar in the match against England, he hitter good and then he hitted the ball when it was not necessary for the team. Pakistani most players are risk taking players and they hit sixes and they are not players of single double. I know T20 is fast cricket but for win , single double matters a lot . Pakistani team have to change the combination and the should change the mindset. They have a mindset of losers ,when they switch their mindset and they will make mind to win,then they will get any kind of title.

Do you really think Pakistani team has the low quality players I don't think so. Pakistani team has the talented players. But there is the big problem of consistency. If they are low quality players so they will not be able to play in any match. But you may see the record they play well in some matches. But in some matches they got out earlier. Is this the standard of quality playing?
They are talented but they need a right direction they need more practice they need a better coaching. So they can be a good team. So in my point of view Pakistani squad is good and they need more practice to stand against a strong team.

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Usually I criticized Pakistani team too much due to their poor performance and system as well but still I believe they can do better because they are having few natural talented players those can do stunning performance in any condition which is their trademark as well but in last few months we are having serious decline in quality with too many players which are not deserved to be in team are creating too many problems for them which is bringing worst results for them as well.
But still if we have some good performances in this event then surely we can have this team into last four with most chances they will be lost against India as they are doing much better and competitive.

Exactly Pakistani team has some good players. But Pakistan players have a big issue which is consistency. They don't have consistency. For example if they have two good players. They will play well in one Match and in the second match they will get out earlier. And due to this they lose the match easily. Means these natural need more practice to avail consistency.
If they will do that so I will say the Pakistani team will be the best team in the world.
By the way ICC T20I World Cup has been started and I hope Pakistani team will do their best.

There was a time when India played against Pakistan and of course there was excitement among the spectators and the game between the two teams was very competitive. But now when India against Pakistan. Played with, India easily won against Pakistan. It is only because of the inconsistent performance of Pakistan players that such incidents happen. Of course the Pakistan team lacks consistency in performance, they must make up for it by maintaining consistency in performance. The performance of the current Pakistan team is definitely very bad. Because at one time, every team in the world was very afraid of the performance of Pakistan's players, but now Pakistan's players still perform fairly well, but their performance lacks consistency. Pakistan team focus on the upcoming T20 World Cup, every player of their team must perform consistently so that they can perform well with the team and finish the T20 World Cup successfully.

Pakistani team is full with low quality players. Nobody is performing like a player and they are not taking responsibility of their country. Country invested on them but they they wasted the country's money. Pakistani team will qualify the semi final but they have no capability to win the title. Because there is no partnership making players. I saw Iftikhar in the match against England, he hitter good and then he hitted the ball when it was not necessary for the team. Pakistani most players are risk taking players and they hit sixes and they are not players of single double. I know T20 is fast cricket but for win , single double matters a lot . Pakistani team have to change the combination and the should change the mindset. They have a mindset of losers ,when they switch their mindset and they will make mind to win,then they will get any kind of title.

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Quote from: Publictalk792 on June 03, 2024, 08:44:46 PM

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Usually I criticized Pakistani team too much due to their poor performance and system as well but still I believe they can do better because they are having few natural talented players those can do stunning performance in any condition which is their trademark as well but in last few months we are having serious decline in quality with too many players which are not deserved to be in team are creating too many problems for them which is bringing worst results for them as well.
But still if we have some good performances in this event then surely we can have this team into last four with most chances they will be lost against India as they are doing much better and competitive.

Exactly Pakistani team has some good players. But Pakistan players have a big issue which is consistency. They don't have consistency. For example if they have two good players. They will play well in one Match and in the second match they will get out earlier. And due to this they lose the match easily. Means these natural need more practice to avail consistency.
If they will do that so I will say the Pakistani team will be the best team in the world.
By the way ICC T20I World Cup has been started and I hope Pakistani team will do their best.

There was a time when India played against Pakistan and of course there was excitement among the spectators and the game between the two teams was very competitive. But now when India against Pakistan. Played with, India easily won against Pakistan. It is only because of the inconsistent performance of Pakistan players that such incidents happen. Of course the Pakistan team lacks consistency in performance, they must make up for it by maintaining consistency in performance. The performance of the current Pakistan team is definitely very bad. Because at one time, every team in the world was very afraid of the performance of Pakistan's players, but now Pakistan's players still perform fairly well, but their performance lacks consistency. Pakistan team focus on the upcoming T20 World Cup, every player of their team must perform consistently so that they can perform well with the team and finish the T20 World Cup successfully.

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Usually I criticized Pakistani team too much due to their poor performance and system as well but still I believe they can do better because they are having few natural talented players those can do stunning performance in any condition which is their trademark as well but in last few months we are having serious decline in quality with too many players which are not deserved to be in team are creating too many problems for them which is bringing worst results for them as well.
But still if we have some good performances in this event then surely we can have this team into last four with most chances they will be lost against India as they are doing much better and competitive.

Exactly Pakistani team has some good players. But Pakistan players have a big issue which is consistency. They don't have consistency. For example if they have two good players. They will play well in one Match and in the second match they will get out earlier. And due to this they lose the match easily. Means these natural need more practice to avail consistency.
If they will do that so I will say the Pakistani team will be the best team in the world.
By the way ICC T20I World Cup has been started and I hope Pakistani team will do their best.

If a team's performance is not consistent then that team cannot play well in any match. We all know that Pakistan team players have a lot of talent and even their country has some star players who are famous in the entire cricket world. I read in the newspaper when I was a child that Pakistan is called the kingdom of pace bowling. Because Pakistan produces the best fast medium bowlers in the world. Looking at the current performance of the Pakistan team, one can guess that their team lacks consistent performance. If the opening batsmen of their team do well, the middle order batsmen do not do well and if the middle order batsman does well in a match, the top order and lower order batsmen do not do well. In order for Pakistan team to be strong against the opposition team, their team performance should be good which in a word should increase their combined strength.

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Quote from: SATWAT on June 03, 2024, 07:04:44 PM

Usually I criticized Pakistani team too much due to their poor performance and system as well but still I believe they can do better because they are having few natural talented players those can do stunning performance in any condition which is their trademark as well but in last few months we are having serious decline in quality with too many players which are not deserved to be in team are creating too many problems for them which is bringing worst results for them as well.
But still if we have some good performances in this event then surely we can have this team into last four with most chances they will be lost against India as they are doing much better and competitive.

Exactly Pakistani team has some good players. But Pakistan players have a big issue which is consistency. They don't have consistency. For example if they have two good players. They will play well in one Match and in the second match they will get out earlier. And due to this they lose the match easily. Means these natural need more practice to avail consistency.
If they will do that so I will say the Pakistani team will be the best team in the world.
By the way ICC T20I World Cup has been started and I hope Pakistani team will do their best.

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I think that is impossible for Pakistan to change these players. All players of today team are referenced players and if they will be out from the tournament,the selectors have to face many problem. Because referenced players will be against the selector and then he will face the challenges in the form of lose of chair. So ,all management is quiet despite the performance of Pakistani Women team is very bad and they are not able to play against low quality players. They lose the series against West Indies and England. Now ,I am not hopeful of the Pakistani cricket.

I think so too. Because we could dream of winning the World Cup with Pakistan but that is not possible anymore. Pakistan's cricket has undergone major changes since the change in politics. Recommendations have ruined the whole cricket situation. I will not only talk about women's cricket but also men's cricket. I strongly believe that Pakistan will not do well in this T20 World Cup. Their inconsistent performance will not bode well for the team. It would have been nice to announce a squad with the women's and men's teams re-selected but that is no longer possible. While Pakistan dreamed to win the World Cup in other years, there are many doubts whether they will bring them to the finals in this World Cup.

Usually I criticized Pakistani team too much due to their poor performance and system as well but still I believe they can do better because they are having few natural talented players those can do stunning performance in any condition which is their trademark as well but in last few months we are having serious decline in quality with too many players which are not deserved to be in team are creating too many problems for them which is bringing worst results for them as well.
But still if we have some good performances in this event then surely we can have this team into last four with most chances they will be lost against India as they are doing much better and competitive.

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Quote from: Nanga Parbat on June 01, 2024, 01:56:07 PM

I think that is impossible for Pakistan to change these players. All players of today team are referenced players and if they will be out from the tournament,the selectors have to face many problem. Because referenced players will be against the selector and then he will face the challenges in the form of lose of chair. So ,all management is quiet despite the performance of Pakistani Women team is very bad and they are not able to play against low quality players. They lose the series against West Indies and England. Now ,I am not hopeful of the Pakistani cricket.

I think so too. Because we could dream of winning the World Cup with Pakistan but that is not possible anymore. Pakistan's cricket has undergone major changes since the change in politics. Recommendations have ruined the whole cricket situation. I will not only talk about women's cricket but also men's cricket. I strongly believe that Pakistan will not do well in this T20 World Cup. Their inconsistent performance will not bode well for the team. It would have been nice to announce a squad with the women's and men's teams re-selected but that is no longer possible. While Pakistan dreamed to win the World Cup in other years, there are many doubts whether they will bring them to the finals in this World Cup.

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Pakistan women don't have chance to play well because they are not able to perform well. They must practice at home to play well This will increase their confidence, strength and morale. By doing this they will improve in the game and become successful very quickly. If Pakistani women players don't prepare themselves now, they will have no place in the cricket team.

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Quote from: synchronym on June 01, 2024, 11:58:05 PM

You are right because the way the Pakistan women's team is performing will really make thousands of their cricket fans angry with them. Especially Pakistan women team lost the series due to their poor batting against West Indies and continued to perform very poorly against England. Especially Pakistan's bowling line is quite good if they work a little hard on batting and get a good training there is definitely a possibility to improve Pakistan women's team in future. So the Pakistan Cricket Board should train the Pakistan Women's team through a good course if they participate in the game like this so that they don't become a laughing stock to the world.

There is no guarantee that Pakistan women team will play well after training through good courses. Pakistan women team should see their team players are not performing well for any reason, what is their problem?They need to fix the problem urgently or they will continue to play poorly in one match after another as they have done in the two series. We have seen the Pakistan Women's team lose their home T20I and ODI series against the West Indies. Similarly, they lost the T20I series and the ODI series against England Women due to poor performances and lost the series pair. For the development of Pakistani women, domestic leagues should be organized in their country to give them adequate opportunities to improve themselves.

There are no opportunities in Pakistan for women to play and perform well. There is not better domestic cricket in Pakistan. Pakistani Women cricket team could be polish if PCB take notice on that. Otherwise, there will be more failure and that is dangerous for Pakistan because Pakistan is paying very high income to them . And at the end ,they are playing bad . I think Pakistani Women team should take break and Pakistan should work on domestic cricket. Otherwise there is no space for Pakistani Women cricket team.In domestic cricket ,when they will play,they will get confidence and we will get healthy competition.

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