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Quote from: Little Mouse on May 30, 2024, 11:47:20 PM

Have you ever heard of shuffle.com? DM me your username there. I'll send you a tip for checking out.

I heard about this casino in bitcointalk but I dont remember creating account until now.
DM will be sent in few minutes, and I will test how everything is working later.

Quote from: Hispo on May 31, 2024, 05:23:13 AM

Though, if this ceasing of operations by poorbot on Stake is due to regulatory reasons, then unfortunately it could be matter of time before other big and reoutable casinos with a high volume of gamblers could be forced to give up on their tilling feature as well.

Stake never explained why they are removing tips and I dont know why this would be against any regulations.

Quote from: Mahdirakib on May 31, 2024, 12:43:29 PM

The tipping feature is same in most of those casinos. But Poorbot won't be able run their service on a casino if they just wish to do it. They have to take permission from the casino owner. Then the most important thing is the API access to run this process smoothly. It could be a difficult task for them. Anyway, I have sent an email to Poorbot team by asking them to give an update here about their final decision.

I dont know how this bots work but I think this would be beneficial both for casino, poorbot and customers.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on May 30, 2024, 12:22:56 PM

It is quite surprising that Poorbot team has instantly taken the action after knowing the decision of Eddie. They could have operated until Stake team removed the tipping feature permanently.

They know what's coming and that's probably why he had to remove it before it was officially removed.

I think it was better if there was a coordination about it and it will be officially a feature of stake per se.

Anyway, it's stake's platform and they have no choice but to just adhere to the decision of stake's management.

Possible that they might appear somewhere else after this that has also a tipping feature.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on May 31, 2024, 12:43:29 PM

Quote from: notblox1 on May 30, 2024, 04:56:09 PM

That is more casinos than I expected to see, but I think they all have different tipping systems.
It is good idea for Poorbot to try and find good replacement for Stake, and I think Roobet has very nice reputation in bitcointalk forum, they could be the best candidate.

The tipping feature is same in most of those casinos. But Poorbot won't be able run their service on a casino if they just wish to do it. They have to take permission from the casino owner. Then the most important thing is the API access to run this process smoothly. It could be a difficult task for them. Anyway, I have sent an email to Poorbot team by asking them to give an update here about their final decision.

That's the main challenge for poorbot and other similar service, because the permission may not be granted by the casino as the casino need to think about many things in order to accept it or not.
Now the decision is on poorbot's hands, whether they want to continue their services or not.
If they wish, of course they need to contact all the possible/potential casinos in order to provide their services.
Maybe shuffle can be one of the casinos to contact because when the 1st SHFL airdrop happened, many users try to exchange it to other coins and there were few users who want to do it.

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Quote from: notblox1 on May 30, 2024, 04:56:09 PM

That is more casinos than I expected to see, but I think they all have different tipping systems.
It is good idea for Poorbot to try and find good replacement for Stake, and I think Roobet has very nice reputation in bitcointalk forum, they could be the best candidate.

The tipping feature is same in most of those casinos. But Poorbot won't be able run their service on a casino if they just wish to do it. They have to take permission from the casino owner. Then the most important thing is the API access to run this process smoothly. It could be a difficult task for them. Anyway, I have sent an email to Poorbot team by asking them to give an update here about their final decision.

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Quote from: Hispo on May 31, 2024, 05:23:13 AM

Quote from: notblox1 on May 30, 2024, 04:56:09 PM

Quote from: Mahdirakib on May 30, 2024, 12:22:56 PM

There are a few more well-known and established casinos with the tip feature. They are BetFury, Bitsler, Bitvest, CryptoGames, DuckDice, Duelbits, Gamdom, Jacksclub, Roobet, TrustDice, WinDice, WolfBet, etc. Poorbot team should try to bring their exchanger on other casinos without closing it completely.

That is more casinos than I expected to see, but I think they all have different tipping systems.
It is good idea for Poorbot to try and find good replacement for Stake, and I think Roobet has very nice reputation in bitcointalk forum, they could be the best candidate.

Though, if this ceasing of operations by poorbot on Stake is due to regulatory reasons, then unfortunately it could be matter of time before other big and reoutable casinos with a high volume of gamblers could be forced to give up on their tilling feature as well. This case with stske does not do anything but create a precedent for the future to come to big casinos which use Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies.
To me It does not make sense why the administrator of a casino on the internet would suppress a function which is very popular and taken from granted, unless there is pressure from external actors to do so.

I hope Stake will re-imolement the tipping feature in the future, instead this leading to the disappareance of the feature on the gambling ecosystem

The tip feature is a perfect option, but all these bots and other features could be misused, so average users who like it can't use this option.

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Quote from: notblox1 on May 30, 2024, 04:56:09 PM

Quote from: Mahdirakib on May 30, 2024, 12:22:56 PM

There are a few more well-known and established casinos with the tip feature. They are BetFury, Bitsler, Bitvest, CryptoGames, DuckDice, Duelbits, Gamdom, Jacksclub, Roobet, TrustDice, WinDice, WolfBet, etc. Poorbot team should try to bring their exchanger on other casinos without closing it completely.

That is more casinos than I expected to see, but I think they all have different tipping systems.
It is good idea for Poorbot to try and find good replacement for Stake, and I think Roobet has very nice reputation in bitcointalk forum, they could be the best candidate.

Though, if this ceasing of operations by poorbot on Stake is due to regulatory reasons, then unfortunately it could be matter of time before other big and reoutable casinos with a high volume of gamblers could be forced to give up on their tilling feature as well. This case with stske does not do anything but create a precedent for the future to come to big casinos which use Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies.
To me It does not make sense why the administrator of a casino on the internet would suppress a function which is very popular and taken from granted, unless there is pressure from external actors to do so.

I hope Stake will re-imolement the tipping feature in the future, instead this leading to the disappareance of the feature on the gambling ecosystem

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Quote from: notblox1 on May 30, 2024, 04:56:09 PM

That is more casinos than I expected to see, but I think they all have different tipping systems.
It is good idea for Poorbot to try and find good replacement for Stake, and I think Roobet has very nice reputation in bitcointalk forum, they could be the best candidate.

Have you ever heard of shuffle.com? DM me your username there. I'll send you a tip for checking out.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on May 30, 2024, 12:22:56 PM

There are a few more well-known and established casinos with the tip feature. They are BetFury, Bitsler, Bitvest, CryptoGames, DuckDice, Duelbits, Gamdom, Jacksclub, Roobet, TrustDice, WinDice, WolfBet, etc. Poorbot team should try to bring their exchanger on other casinos without closing it completely.

That is more casinos than I expected to see, but I think they all have different tipping systems.
It is good idea for Poorbot to try and find good replacement for Stake, and I think Roobet has very nice reputation in bitcointalk forum, they could be the best candidate.

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Quote from: notblox1 on May 29, 2024, 05:15:17 PM

Thanks, I didnt ask about exchanges or 3rd party services like poorbot, and Primedice is not that interesting to me.
I asked other members if they know about any other crypto casinos that have option to tip other members or send coins between accounts.

It's Primedice if they did not stop their tip feature like Stake. I don't know what happened on Primedice but possibly they stop tipping feature too, similar like what they did with Stake because with same owner team, it's difficult to think they will have different decisions on two platforms they are operating.

Why Stake stop it?
Abuse on their platform and affect their business profit or AML?

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Reading news like this one of one of the biggest casinos within the market of Bitcoin gambling and betting is something I would have never imagined to read anytime soon. I can only speculate as some official statement comes to light, however I have got some hunch this has something to do with regulations getting tighter in the most important jurisdictions where Stake operates from. The United Kingdom is a good example actually. Stake is allowed to operate and Carter people from there, but they are not allowed to directly use Bitcoin or other decentralized assets for those in the country to gamble, only FIAT. That leads me to believe something similar could have happened between the tipping feature and some major regulating agency either in Europe or the United States.

regardless the case, it is a shame a services like this one which has considered to be quite helpful by many will inevitably close down for good.
Regulators do not want casinos to have any window for money launderers to achieve their operations.

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It is quite surprising that Poorbot team has instantly taken the action after knowing the decision of Eddie. They could have operated until Stake team removed the tipping feature permanently.

Quote from: notblox1 on May 29, 2024, 05:15:17 PM

I asked other members if they know about any other crypto casinos that have option to tip other members or send coins between accounts.

panjul07 has already mentioned the name of 3 casinos with internal tipping feature. There are a few more well-known and established casinos with the tip feature. They are BetFury, Bitsler, Bitvest, CryptoGames, DuckDice, Duelbits, Gamdom, Jacksclub, Roobet, TrustDice, WinDice, WolfBet, etc. Poorbot team should try to bring their exchanger on other casinos without closing it completely.

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Quote from: notblox1 on May 28, 2024, 04:00:12 PM

Quote from: panjul07 on May 28, 2024, 08:58:02 AM

I support other casinos to have this tipping feature but it should have better rules to avoid abuse.

Do you know what other casinos have similar tipping feature or some way to send coins between accounts?

I cant really remember all the casinos with tipping feature but I know some such as shuffle, bc.game, and rollbit.
Not quite sure about the other casinos because I'm not active in too many casinos, but I'm quite sure about the 3 casinos above since I've tried them myself.
What poorbot need to do is to find casinos with similar feature but without internal exchange because there might be some casinos with both tipping + internal exchange.
Because if casinos have both features then poorbot will not be able to provide the service.

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Quote from: tbct_mt2 on May 29, 2024, 02:03:10 AM

There is Dinabot that works on both Stake and Primedice but because Stake and Primedice are from same owner team.

Thanks, I didnt ask about exchanges or 3rd party services like poorbot, and Primedice is not that interesting to me.
I asked other members if they know about any other crypto casinos that have option to tip other members or send coins between accounts.

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Quote from: joniboini on May 29, 2024, 12:09:37 AM

Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on May 28, 2024, 04:27:49 PM

I personally see this decision affecting the casino in several ways, the internal Tipping is the same as internal transfers on centralized exchanges, can stake really do without this feature?

Maybe you should ask this question on their thread instead. I believe OP is not privy to Stake's internal data, and others probably don't know either. I doubt poorbot and other similar services can do much to change Stake's decision, especially if their major volume doesn't come from tipping. If OP is still going to continue his business he will likely expand to other casinos, so we can wait and see if he posts any updates here. CMIIW.

Moving to other casinos is the only thing OP can try if he wants to continue his service but it will also depending on the casinos because I think such a service needs a prior deal/permission from the casino first. That's would be the main challenge for OP to find other casinos with tipping feature and allow OP to provide the service. Number of active players in the casino will also be one of the consideration because if the traffic is so low, it will not be profitable for the OP to provide the service.

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Quote from: notblox1 on May 28, 2024, 04:00:12 PM

Do you know what other casinos have similar tipping feature or some way to send coins between accounts?

There is Dinabot that works on both Stake and Primedice but because Stake and Primedice are from same owner team.
https://dinabot.exchange/

With this decision of Stake to shut down internal tipping bots, will the same be applied on Primedice platform?

Do you know information about it from Primedice team?
The latest update from dinabot's owner is in February.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on May 28, 2024, 04:27:49 PM

I personally see this decision affecting the casino in several ways, the internal Tipping is the same as internal transfers on centralized exchanges, can stake really do without this feature?

Maybe you should ask this question on their thread instead. I believe OP is not privy to Stake's internal data, and others probably don't know either. I doubt poorbot and other similar services can do much to change Stake's decision, especially if their major volume doesn't come from tipping. If OP is still going to continue his business he will likely expand to other casinos, so we can wait and see if he posts any updates here. CMIIW.

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Quote from: Get-Paid.com on May 26, 2024, 06:03:35 PM

Poorbot is shutting down because of Stake's decision to remove internal tipping

Why?! Sad

Wow, this is the first time I am coming across this news, and I must say that this is very disappointing to learn about, why exactly is stake taking such decision seeing that it benefitted the users alot? This is very unwelcoming to be honest..

And this does not affect only services like poorbot, and other bot services that were used as a medium of exchange on stake, but this decision is going to affect the signature campaign payments too, since payment was always sent through internal tipping, which was fast, convenient and most importantly, feeless.

I personally see this decision affecting the casino in several ways, the internal Tipping is the same as internal transfers on centralized exchanges, can stake really do without this feature?

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Quote from: panjul07 on May 28, 2024, 08:58:02 AM

Poorbot announced it since few days ago on their landing page, I guess since Eddie announced it on the weekend stream.
Not only poorbot, but also dinabot which has bigger user base than poorbot because dinabot started since few years ago.

Bad decision from Stake and it worse because they didnt gave any explanation why they are removing this from their website.
If their customers are using tipping a lot they should complain and say something about it.

Quote from: panjul07 on May 28, 2024, 08:58:02 AM

I support other casinos to have this tipping feature but it should have better rules to avoid abuse.

Do you know what other casinos have similar tipping feature or some way to send coins between accounts?

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Quote from: Little Mouse on May 28, 2024, 04:16:21 AM

Quote from: yahoo62278 on May 27, 2024, 06:22:22 PM

This does however give the owner of the bot reason to look at other chats and make a bot for them if he wished.

Maybe for shuffle.com, considering how fast shuffle is growing.

Send the OP a message, he may be interested in working with the brand you represent. Looks like he hasn't been online for a couple days, but never know when he may log in again.

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Quote from: notblox1 on May 27, 2024, 06:06:18 PM

Quote from: Get-Paid.com on May 26, 2024, 06:03:35 PM

Poorbot is shutting down because of Stake's decision to remove internal tipping

Why?! Sad

Can we have official statement from poorbot about this?
I think it poorbot became more popular and Stake dont like what they are doing.
Internal tipping is a very good idea and I think more crypto casinos should add it now when Stake removed it.

Poorbot announced it since few days ago on their landing page, I guess since Eddie announced it on the weekend stream.
Not only poorbot, but also dinabot which has bigger user base than poorbot because dinabot started since few years ago.
Internal tipping is useful but if there is no strict rules applied, it can be used by abusers to take advantage (mostly to collect small amount from several accounts into 1 account then withdraw it).
I support other casinos to have this tipping feature but it should have better rules to avoid abuse.

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