Topic: Royse777 is a dishonest person and thus my negative feedback (Read 1116 times)

Thanks but I'll keep it open. I think I've already moved on by simply taking it for a laugh.

When I blew the wistle on Casino Critique and red tagged Royse777, I expected a lot more in terms of people removing me from their trust lists and even expected some retaliatory negative feedback like saying I was trust abusing or something, and in the end a lot less happened.

Regarding your analysis of the first part of the feedback I fully agree:


I even regret not blowing the whistle sooner.

As for the second part, I don't think even he believes it. When he says "It is believed that..."  that's because he knows he has no proof or even if the client really told him that, he knows from my reaction that I didn't say anything.

Right now I doubt 50% if Royse777 opened that thread falsely (e.g. sending that message to himself or having a friend send it to him), intending to leave me feedback, and the other 50% of me believes that actually the client sent him that PM but as an excuse. Simply when he saw the mess he wanted to get Royse777 off his back by saying that.

I had to check my untrusted feedback to read what Royse777 wrote about you. To me it seems a clear case of revenge feedback and a completely pointless thing but others can make up their own mind:





If someone sent a member an unsolicited PM and asked them to keep the contents secret and that person sending it was part-owner of a recent scam website who was now going to launch another website anonymously, why would anybody feel the need to be complicit via silence in the new website which could also be a scam?

Had anybody tried finding the actual post Royse777 linked in the first part of his feedback with the accusation?

On the second part, it is NOT believed you reached out to any of his potential clients to discourage them to work with Royse777. That was an accusation Royse777 made. Nobody believes that you or anybody reached out to potential business owners.

I have to say it is commendable you tried to de-escalate the situation by avoiding writing about Royse777 but I would add the name calling on your part is unnecessary and it does not put you in a good light. You should lock this thread and move on from the whole issue.

HAHAHA! I have seen that the crybaby has left me a negative feedback and apparently he is back in DT.

I had been without coming to reputation for de-escalating, and I do not want to escalate a lot, but what I do want is to stay at ease saying:

Crybaby, you are a crybaby, I don't care about your feedbacks, as if I get 24 negative feedbacks for saying that you are a dishonest crybaby.

 

I honestly thought the issue with Bitlucy have been long settled and forgotten, at least with Royce777 coming out to explain his side of the story, which personally, I believe its a mistake anybody would have made, i thought a topic like this should never come up again.
Also considering the fact that Royce777 has picked himself up from where he fell, and right now managing a good number of campaigns, and none of the participants in any of this campaigns have complained of non payment which i know of, neither has any of the brand he's promoting come out to complain about poor services from Royce777...

I think its time we bury every hatchet, we should spread love and support one another, showing hate and even going the extra mile to try to damage ones reputation is not ideal, Royce777 might have his faults, he might exhibit attitude we, on our individual terms do not like, but remember no body is a saint, we all have our faults, and remember they say that the best answer to a fool is silence, if you consider any of Royse777's attitude, or maybe manner of approach foolish, its not worth creating a topic for, just ignore and focus on what's important .

Yeah, sure.  Of those members above, only Lauda had a real scam accusation made against them with evidence strong enough to at least make it a debatable issue.  As for the rest of them, I don't recall any scams that resulted in reputations being destroyed.

That's what I'd advise Poker Player to do for now.  I can't see the future of course, but I'd be willing to bet Royse777 will be able to restore his reputation if given enough time.  I've seen plenty of shitbag scammers on this forum, and I don't think he falls into that category; he may have used some poor judgement in the Bitlucy thing, but I don't think he's here to rip people off.

That's not a ringing endorsement, Royse777, but nor is it a condemnation by any means.  Please prove me right.

You and cryptohunter is never going to change 
digaran is working in it.
Sorry off-topic 

Royse is/was known for supporting the scammer group arround here like Lauda,TMAN,VOD,suchmoon and co.

They are all full of shit and notorious liars trying to destroy everyones account and delete traces to their abuse thanks to their friend mods.
Its not worth the hassle everyone knows they are scammers but theymos won't do anything anyways.

At least VOD got reported to the police i should have done the same with suchmoon when she attacked my reputation causing some damage on the crypto project i run.


TO all these fuckers you are losers expecially you suchmoon.

Poker Player, Royse777 - you two should make an exhibition boxing fight (or any other competition) if you two dont like each other so much. Settle this situation once and for all, as this is not the first time you are throwing stones on each other.

Ok, so if this can't harm your reputation then why can't you ignore it?

You won't be able to prove a negative anyway (that the TG chat didn't exist, or that you didn't send a message to the client). It's your word against Royse's, and since he's the one making the claim (about you messaging the client) then he should prove it. That's what I would state, perhaps without excessive name calling, and leave it at that. Anyone who can do 2+2 would see this situation for what it is. Opening new threads - like you did with the unsubstantiated forgery accusation - doesn't help you at all. You should have considered other possibilities (e.g. someone pretending to be a potential client to screw with Royse777) before assuming that Royse777 made it up and trying to fit the evidence to your preconceived conclusion.

Just let it got buddy. it's not worth it.

Yeah we understand you don't trust him which is fine, but you guys opening topics and counter-topics after the other in the reputations board doesn't help it. It only portrays the situation as some sort of drama and no one sane enough wants to get involved in such drama.

Breath in.... Breath out.... and move on, if Royse777 fucks up again, that's on him. Let the people independently judge him, you don't have to try and influence them 

I believe this is a classic example for "time heals all wounds" in the sense that we forget what happened.

julerz12 got a negative rating, ok, I agree. He handled funds entrusted to him in an irresponsible manner. But he responds in a trustworthy manner and makes very clear that he wants to pay back the damages he is responsible for. This is not about whether or not it is true what he says, but for as long as he delivers, the arguments against him decrease in meaning and significance.

Royse777 says that she can't make transparent some of the important transactions, people involved, also not some of the chats that happened with trustworthy members of this forum, the list of examples for what she can't do is long.

The chat which was dropped between the alleged boss of Bitlucy and a potential employee (I read it in full) was quite crazy. I can't prove anything, but if this chat actually has any truth value, I really ask myself what role Royse777 actually played in this casino disaster.

It was not a short chat, and this is what not many people (if anybody) read in full. It was hours and hours long.

After all, the intentions and interests of Royse777 in the Bitlucy "business" were obvious: big role in the upper management, use the loyal community to get it off the ground, be a stakeholder and yes, also a shareholder '(self-admitted) at the same time: win win for? ...... Royse777.  A shareholder who never warned the community, the "beloved" community, that payouts aren't happening anymore while allowing for deposits, who is that kind of person?

If Hhampuz ran a casino, not making clear what his/her own role was, and totally crashed it to the ground, than saying that making chats public and transactions public is not possible for security reasons, who would Hhampuz be these days? Taking on a stakeholder AND shareholder role comes with additional risk.

In my humble opinion, that was pretty evil.

If Royse777 earns her way back by living up to promises and contracts, I am all for it. But I get the feeling that the truth gets out of sight just because time is running by.

There are people trying to solve problems by fostering transparency or by letting actions speak for themselves (compensate for damages), and there are people who keep going, hoping for time to heal all wounds.


Royse777 may have her community, and that still might be an asset to her, but from my point of view, someone trying to proactively remedy a certain problematic situation should still deserve the benefit of the doubt while someone hiding behind "I can't be transparent for security reasons" should perhaps be in a less favorable situation unless the vaaaast majority of the community agrees that there is substance or could be substance to that claim.

I am not ruling out that there might be substance to her claim, but proof has never been provided.


I do get Poker Players point. Everyone here talks about politics and how equal everything should be. But in the end, 99% of the members know how all of this works. I am in no way connected to Poker Player, have never been, but I truly understand his rant.

Yes, I think you are right. My conscience is clear and I'm going to give this some time because it's clear that a character like Royse777's is a matter of time before he gets into trouble again.

What a jewel, he opens a thread against me with an invention, which he obviously cannot prove.

If you have a clear conscience and tell the truth, I think you are worrying too much about these details. It will always be impossible to use material that is highly sustainable to be manipulated as evidence for the prosecution or defense. Therefore, it is not worth the effort to despair over it.

Based on everything that has been said, no one in the community will get the wrong idea about you. Both actors were not damaged by these events. It will be more this type of debate that lowers your reputation than the accusations made.

Continue with your normal activities, and let the time speak for itself.

Yeah but nutildah didn't know about the subject and just in case more people didn't either I made this thread as I was advised.


No, because the fucking whining childish scammer made up a lie to harm my reputation, which he couldn't do even if it were true.

What fuckingliar777 has to do is to prove what he can't prove. Doesn't he say he has a screen recording? Let him show proof that I have sent PMs to his clients.

By the way, does anyone know how I could prove that I have not deleted PMs? Because I have not deleted any.

Your apparently right. The good gesture to any peaceful coexistence is understanding each others differences and be willing/ready to make necessary adjustments. Being right in a contest of words with nothing else to hedge on could be such a difficult thing to archive when it's put in contest. Its always going going to have a direction to turn with any capped pinnacle and so, I'll suggest they both be wrong in there perception of long ago and current claims to move on. That feels like the more easier thing to do.

I don't xoect my word to mean much here, like Suchmoon has stated, opinions don't significantly matter with all sides believing to have something to prove so, let the parties be wrong to be peaceful than be right and throw punches.

One can stand their ground and not stoop to the level of grotesque mud-slinging this is turning into. Let's say Royse777 lied, PP can add this statement to the OP and not add more negative ratings. I don't expect de-escalation any time soon but I think by now it's quite clear where the sides stand in this debacle and I doubt anyone's opinion will be significantly affected if one of them stops counterpunching.

It's such a difficult result to expect on the forum given that, which ever way it turns, it gets to reflect badly and its very much sticky so I wouldn't expect either of Poker Player or Royse777 not to stay there ground on that particular allegation given the too distinct position but, should anyone hope to end that quite conclusively, it would be the company. Having a copy of messages from both parties.

Either way, I am not any much interested and really hope for this drama to end as it begone. Hate and fabrications are something not to expect on forum users. This division to the point of not having to wish for our goods isn't helping.

Royse777 (can we skip the childish name mangling) posted telegram screenshots of a potential client telling him (Royse777) that they (the potential client) received a message from you. I don't know if the alleged message was telling them not to do business with Royse777 nor did they say it was a PM, and my statement is mostly hypothetical anyway. If you're saying you didn't send the message then one of you three is lying (you, Royse777, or the client) but honestly I couldn't care less at this point. Can you be the adult in this drama and step back? Someone should, might as well be you.

What? You are insane. Prove that, liar.

I'm not going to have long discussions with you because arguing with you is almost the same as arguing with crybaby777, but what I will not tolerate is your blatant lying.


What? Do you mean crybaby777 is saying that I have been PMing his clients and telling them no to do business with him?


If you weren't so biased, you would know that the changes were started by me softening the negative feedback, followed by your friend crying.


False, you are a liar. For starters the other manager had a completely different attitude from the start. He has an inactive flag due to lack of support and only negative feedback. Nothing to do with your friend.

I'm not going to put you on ignore at the moment to control what lies you tell about me, liar.

Edit after unignoring Royse777 and reading the blatant lie he's told about me:

I will post here the link to my demonstration that it is a lie that I am PMing anyone to tell them not to do business with crybaby777 and I have the content saved. If crybaby777 happens to delete the thread I will post the proof here.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61610794

By the way he got another negative feedback for that blatant lie. On top of that he has the nerve to say that if we wanted a screen recording. Yes, we want a screen recording, yes.

If you don't like my second feedback you can distrust me, ignore me or whatever. I'm not going to change it. This person is not to be trusted and proves it every day.

@OP

Just one of example of the walls of text I referred to.