Topic: TRADERS are not UNEMPLOYED - page 3. (Read 1285 times)

Trading becomes a job if you are consistently earning from it, but if you are only trading because others are trading and you are not making profits, probably it won’t fall as a real job. Once you don’t get paid in a single task or piece of work, that won’t be considered a job.

However, a lot still manage to find a job with trading, most especially for those who are good in technicals and even fundamentals in trading.

Well, as long as trading provides opportunities to gain profits, that will be considered a job that offers an income. You will exert time and efforts for you to succeed and be able to gain an income. However, if you jump into trading without learning and understanding its nature first, it will never be a job to consider. Although it might be an attempt to gain profits, but the process might only turn into a failure, and probably end up like gambling.

Or simply it would really be something that will be situational on which you would really be that making yourself be the one treating it out but of course it will really be still needed up whether this one could be able to support your living or not. Doesnt matter whether its a job or not into other peoples eyes but this one could be possibly to be one because anything that brings income will really be definitely be considered by this.
It is really just that there are people who are really that rushing themselves on learning trading skill because they would really be doing on such thing on which we know that this isnt something a skill that you could really be able to learn up on a short period of time on which it would really be something that you would really be needing up to take tons of time and money for you to have a good grasps of it.
There are ones who would really be that be able to succeed and there are ones who would really be definitely be failing out just because they cant bare out on whats the risks that involved with it.

From your title, well, it depends on what you term as the "trader." Some traders are only from the mouth, they are not earning in the field, so what do you call them? What do you call the person who still loses/wastes the little he has into trading without having any job to help himself? That is even worse than being unemployed alone, such is a waster. This is why I say this context is relative, so it should not be rigidly suggested for or against to avoid misleading people.

What the OP wrote is good, but that is for the dedicated souls who are really in for trading and are making money from it. Even if such a trader is not making money yet, the greenlight of money-making would have been seen for such to have such boldness in trading to build his career. I am a trader myself, and not just a trader, but a professional trader who trades every day and earns reasonably. But this is not without its huge challenges, how many people can stay? Even those who are earning regularly in a month or two could have a very challenging month that would threaten to take all their money. Is this what many can beat their chest upon that they have a job with? It's deeper than mere saying.

However, if you are a consistent earner for a long period of time, I congratulate you. Do not let anyone look down on you. Be proud of what you do. What earns for you consistently and that you can trust is what you should be proud of regardless of what anyone may say.

Crypto trading and unemployment are two different problems, where someone is an expert and understands crypto trading, of course this activity can become a job that makes him a lot of money every day, that's for sure, but it applies to those who are experts in that field/trade.

On the other hand, for those who do not understand trading at all, they only know, they have never studied, they immediately want to trade, If that happens, I'm sure that trading could result in unemployment and disaster for him, the understanding of these two factors depends on how they do it.

Having a job that gives us income that can meet the needs we need is of course very important because it is difficult to get daily profits from trading if you don't understand it well and even those who are experienced still experience failure in the trading they do because without realizing it they have make mistakes on their trades.

Of course, we don't need to think about what other people say if we already have income from the trading we do and other people say that we are unemployed and we only need to focus on the trading we do so that we can continue to make profits from trading.

Yeah, some people do not make money from it and still think that they have a job. A job is something you make money from and if you are insisting on what you can do or can't do or what you should be called or not called then you are going to miss the point.

Bitcoin income from trading could be considered a job and then you would be considered employed but making that money is more important than being called whatever, if you are making money from trading then being called unemployed wouldn't matter to you. However, if you are not making money and keep insisting that you have a job and you are going to eventually get better and this is what you want to do, then eventually the money will run out and you are going to end up with nothing at all which will hurt a lot.

Technically you are talking right but if you are having money even this is not fixed and coming regularly, but you are able to spend this with things are getting better for you, It's also good and then peoples will never talk about you as unemployed because you're all things are setting, and you are having enough money for buying your daily usages.
Trading has never been taking as employment with usually its talk as business or traders so it's also good to touch with this and also having chance of earning good amount regularly which is currently important as inflation is rising and peoples are losing their power or buy which is surely not good thing.

Having tons of capital or big ones doesnt give out an assurance that you would be able to make yourself that support on day to day living or income with trading on which we know that it would really be still that varying or would really be that depending on how well you would really be making up your trades. WE do know that market is really that random and really that volatile on which you would be needing up that a skill that it is really that something that could really be able to sustain you for you to be able to make yourself that making trading as your main source of income. If you cant, then you shouldnt really be still making yourself having such decision on making it as a job. Doesnt matter on what we do call trading on, whether investment/job/hobby or whatsoever as long we are really that wary on the things that we are dealing off with then it would really be just that aiming on the same thing is on which to make some profits.

In order to sustain yourself only from trading you will require a lot of capital, which is why many people trade as their second job or convince others to pool their funds and increase the capital they have at their disposal while charging a small fee for the service, so the number of traders that can actually trade the markets exclusively for a living is very limited, and from that number the amount of those that fail is very high, while many others despite the success they can get, decide to stop trading as they discover it is too taxing to trade for a living.

As said before, we call a person employed when he works for someone and gets paid on a regular basis and that too a fixed amount. But in case of trading this is not as it works. So yes technically the traders are unemployed. They don’t have fix income and sometimes don’t even make the money. But this doesn’t mean traders are poor, they make tons of money in single day only. But yes with this type of income it’s hard to pay regular bills. Hence I would prefer trading as part time only.

No one will call you unemployed when you have a lot of money. It doesn't matter whether you have a job or not, having money means you are not unemployed. If you can support yourself and your family by trading then you are employed, if someone asks you, you will proudly say that you do online job which is my source of income. But if trading is your only source of income then you need to focus on your capital. In that case you have to do day-trading. More capital means more profit. Example - If you make $2 from $10, you can make $100 to $20. So in this case you need to have enough capital.

As much as others find it a stable job, but for me trading should only be a profitable side job, hence you need to find a real stable job at least wherein you will receive a fixed amount of salary every month. That way, even if you lose from trading, you still have other job that will pay you consistently.

However, a lot of us here are still trying to focus on trading alone and leave their current jobs. That’s everyone’s choice and preference, but be sure to have a stable finances first before you resort into trading alone, as it can offer you huge earning but it can always mess up with your funds and leave you nothing in just a blink of an eye.

There was a man in my village who had no institutional knowledge and was of the goofy type. He had a beautiful daughter and wanted to marry her off to a good working boy. One day marriage came for the girl who owns a well-known company. Even after that, the man refused to marry his daughter to the owner of the company because the man was not a job holder. Tried to explain that he doesn't work but he gives jobs to many people but to no avail.
Now coming to the main point, those who think traders are unemployed are like that girl's father. Anyone who believes that just by working under someone, they are no longer unemployed.

if you are trading and at the same time have a stable job, it is not bad, At the same time, some people trade without doing any work and are doing well financially, is just for once that we choose a part we want to follow because we can not succeed if we don't decide, and trading requires a lot of effort, patience, and research, but it is very beneficial when you know what you are doing, As you trade, we should be more professional and also learn to share our minds with people who know more than us. That way, we can do better and keep improving. that is how people become better. the risk is quite alright but at the same time, the profit is also there.  and if not for our carelessness, there is no way you can lose all your money to trading except if you want to explore some parts, like futures, and even if you are exploring, you have to explore with sense.

Its easier to said, I know we know how dangerous and risky trading is and if not done with care and catiousness it will cause a lot of money from us, yes trading maybe an alternative to stable jobs, it can be treated as full time job but imagine the stress and anxiety you may get, only strong willed and strong mind could handle it and at the same time can handle different situation, I'm pointing is that trading is not for everyone so if you are thinking of letting go of your stable job and focusing on trading then thing again, you should know that you might expect to lose some in the process and you might want to think again before deciding and changing your profession, or if you can you can keep both, you can trade daily only and if you have time while you are doing your stable job.

Yes, trading is a job or an investment, it's just a different way of calling it for each person and that really doesn't matter, what matters is whether we can make money from it or not. Even if we argue and prove ourselves right but we lose money in trading and even lose all our assets in trading, so what is the use of arguing with others?

To me, unemployment is when you cannot make money, cannot make a profit in your job. No matter how hard you work, if you don't make a profit, it's still unemployment or, more seriously useless.

You are right; it is important that you have knowledge of trading. It's hard to just rely on guesswork because you don't understand anything about reading charts or using indicators on the trading exchange platform.

That's the problem with most people, who always rely on assumptions and guesses that have no certainty. Yes, all the analysis that are done are just predictions, but there is a basis for why that is their prediction, not just a prediction that has no basis.

Some people consider those who trade as unemployed because they have not been able to get big results from the trading they do, of course we don't need to care about this because in trading of course we will be able to get big profits after mastering trading well.
To be able to make big profits in trading, of course this is not something that is easy to obtain, it requires knowledge and skills in trading and those who have been able to make big profits from the trades they make of course have a good understanding of how to analyze the market and knowing the right time to make a trade so they can make a profit on the trades they make.

well, in fact, people will see it as a job when we make a lot of money from it. However, if we don't make a lot of money from trading, people will still say we are unemployed. In fact, we don't need to think about what other people say when we focus on an area. They will eventually recognize someone when they succeed at their job. A businessman will also not be recognized as an entrepreneur if he does not make any money from it, or only makes a loss. Sometimes, they are recognized by entrepreneurs and business people when they have been successful in that field.