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full member
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September 15, 2015, 04:45:18 PM
#17
i like to stop this fee
or
fixed it in 10000 satoshi

fee bank  dollar <  fee  bank bitcoin

for exemple in dollar you paye 1% fee  , and fast than bitcoin 00:00:00:01







sr. member
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Young but I'm not that bold
September 15, 2015, 04:33:43 PM
#16
I think you can send some low transactions without any fees  Grin
I tried it before and it works but it took hours before the transaction was confirmed
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1001
September 15, 2015, 04:31:03 PM
#15
wow. just wow. you can get much more than that just by looking for some dropped coins on the sidewalk...

Yes, exactly this! Unfortunately many people still haven't realised this so they keep wasting time in front of their screens and entering captchas. Then they get mad when client takes a bit more for the tx fee. What is there more to say..

Quite sad the more I think of it... I just can't see (unless you get like a thousand referrals) how a faucet can ever be profitable in any way.

They are not meant to be profitable, they are meant to give very new users or potential new users an entrance into the Bitcoin/bitcoin world.
If they were meant to be profitable, then I'm sure miner's would rather enter captchas all day, compared to mining and not get a block all day.

Why is such a large amount of people on these boards than complaining when they have to pay a tx fee on their earnings or that they lost a weeks worth of faucets in a bad investment? I think it is more than that to a lot of people.

Yes, that is true. But eventually in time (since the faucet has brought them in and taught them very basics of the Bitcoin/bitcoin system),
eventually they will be comfortable enough to buy actual worthwhile amounts and eventually be a regular user like us.
Then they will get mad when they lose a whole btc to a bad investment.  Tongue

I believe faucets allow non-users to safely understand our system, without needed to "go all in", yet.
If they like Bitcoin/bitcoin, their frustration will lead them to attaining significant amounts, eventually.
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1007
September 15, 2015, 04:26:31 PM
#14
wow. just wow. you can get much more than that just by looking for some dropped coins on the sidewalk...

Yes, exactly this! Unfortunately many people still haven't realised this so they keep wasting time in front of their screens and entering captchas. Then they get mad when client takes a bit more for the tx fee. What is there more to say..

Quite sad the more I think of it... I just can't see (unless you get like a thousand referrals) how a faucet can ever be profitable in any way.

They are not meant to be profitable, they are meant to give very new users or potential new users an entrance into the Bitcoin/bitcoin world.
If they were meant to be profitable, then I'm sure miner's would rather enter captchas all day, compared to mining and not get a block all day.

Why is such a large amount of people on these boards than complaining when they have to pay a tx fee on their earnings or that they lost a weeks worth of faucets in a bad investment? I think it is more than that to a lot of people.
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1001
September 15, 2015, 04:23:55 PM
#13
wow. just wow. you can get much more than that just by looking for some dropped coins on the sidewalk...

Yes, exactly this! Unfortunately many people still haven't realised this so they keep wasting time in front of their screens and entering captchas. Then they get mad when client takes a bit more for the tx fee. What is there more to say..

Quite sad the more I think of it... I just can't see (unless you get like a thousand referrals) how a faucet can ever be profitable in any way.

They are not meant to be profitable, they are meant to give very new users or potential new users an entrance into the Bitcoin/bitcoin world.
If they were meant to be profitable, then I'm sure miner's would rather enter captchas all day, compared to mining and not get a block all day.
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1007
September 15, 2015, 04:20:27 PM
#12
wow. just wow. you can get much more than that just by looking for some dropped coins on the sidewalk...

Yes, exactly this! Unfortunately many people still haven't realised this so they keep wasting time in front of their screens and entering captchas. Then they get mad when client takes a bit more for the tx fee. What is there more to say..

Quite sad the more I think of it... I just can't see (unless you get like a thousand referrals) how a faucet can ever be profitable in any way.
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1012
September 15, 2015, 03:33:49 PM
#11
0,00002 BTC.
Tested today.
Certified.
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
Move On !!!!!!
September 15, 2015, 03:30:39 PM
#10
wow. just wow. you can get much more than that just by looking for some dropped coins on the sidewalk...

Yes, exactly this! Unfortunately many people still haven't realised this so they keep wasting time in front of their screens and entering captchas. Then they get mad when client takes a bit more for the tx fee. What is there more to say..
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
September 15, 2015, 02:37:42 PM
#9
If you receive money through a lot of small transactions (like through a faucet), and then you try and spend a decent amount of BTC it will use a lot of the inputs from these transactions.
The more inputs the use, the bigger your transactions and the more you pay.
You could try sending a few inputs to yourself so that you have fewer unspent transactions. I think this is possible in bitcoin-qt through the Coin Control settings.
legendary
Activity: 3472
Merit: 4801
September 15, 2015, 02:26:53 PM
#8
10000 satoshi ?

No.  You've either misunderstood, or you've been misinformed.

The fee is not 10000 satoshi. The fee is paid PER KILOBYTE.  Some wallets calculate a fee of 10000 satoshi per kilobyte, others will calculate less (perhaps 1000 satoshi per kilobyte).

but no

i send 0,02759 for 0,02819

fee = 60000 satoshi

It sounds like you probably created a transaction that required many kilobytes.

i get bitcoin from faucet

And this is why you have a problem.  Every transaction that a faucet sends you requires at least 148 bytes when you spend the bitcoins that you receive in that transaction.

As an example, lets assume you receive 50 faucet payments to your address.  Then lets assume that you spend the entire amount from all 50 payments in a single transaction, and that you send the entire amount to a single address.

Transactions always have 10 bytes of required information
Your transaction will have 1 output, and outputs are each 34 bytes
Your transaction will have 50 inputs, and inputs are each approximately 148 bytes

10 + (1 * 34) + (50 * 148) = 7444 bytes.

Since this example transaction is more than 7000 bytes, most wallets will require you to pay 8 times the wallet's fee-per-kilobyte.

If the wallet typically paid 10000 satoshi per kilobyte, then the wallet would calculate a 80000 satoshi fee for the transaction.
staff
Activity: 3458
Merit: 6793
Just writing some code
September 15, 2015, 02:15:08 PM
#7
Well how big was the transaction? If you the transaction was combining a bunch of payments from that address into one payment, then the transaction will be quite large and then you will need to pay a large fee.
member
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September 15, 2015, 02:13:44 PM
#6
usually 0.0002 for me.
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1000
In holiday we trust
September 15, 2015, 02:07:39 PM
#5
i get bitcoin from faucet
60000 satoshi is 2 day of work

-_-

ppfffff

Damn that's a lot of staring at the screen and wasting electricity for such a small amount. Have a look in Games and Rounds section.
copper member
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hee-ho.
September 15, 2015, 02:06:16 PM
#4
wow. just wow. you can get much more than that just by looking for some dropped coins on the sidewalk...
full member
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September 15, 2015, 02:03:13 PM
#3
i get bitcoin from faucet
60000 satoshi fee : is 2 day of work

-_-

ppfffff
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1000
In holiday we trust
September 15, 2015, 02:02:01 PM
#2
Looks like you have to adjust the settings in your software. Was the transfer faster since you paid more ?
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September 15, 2015, 01:59:56 PM
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