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February 03, 2014, 03:41:12 AM
#71
we are getting ahead of ourselves with valuations and market caps. Let the client roll, let the people learn about this and the market will determine cap.

There cant be and there isnt any cartel as even if people wanted this, it is not realistic.

XCP should start trading on exchanges and from there the market will determine value.

I burned a few BTC because of the potential but I also dont think that it is a $100M cap just yet for a software in an alpha stage. patience is virtue.
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February 03, 2014, 02:45:21 AM
#70
I posted in main thread a logical XCP valuation using math, not envy:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4906553

Let us compare XCP and mastercoin from a feature set, release status and market cap standpoint.

Everyone that burned BTC to get XCP in spite of almost everyone calling it madness, essentially got $10 bills for each $1 bill they burned.

What obligation does someone that got a $10 bill in this way have to sell it for less than $10?

James
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February 03, 2014, 02:43:04 AM
#69
I posted in main thread a logical XCP valuation using math, not envy:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4906553

Let us compare XCP and mastercoin from a feature set, release status and market cap standpoint.

Everyone that burned BTC to get XCP in spite of almost everyone calling it madness, essentially got $10 bills for each $1 bill they burned.

What obligation does someone that got a $10 bill in this way have to sell it for less than $10?

James
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Counterpartying
February 03, 2014, 02:40:49 AM
#68
Where is the exchange?
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February 03, 2014, 02:40:12 AM
#67
Just a warning to buyers: XCP burners (basically early adopters) have formed a cartel (chk xcp thread) and jacked up the price artificially by 10x-15x times. Please don't accept these prices as the coin is still a prototype and isn't worth that much yet. They are a greedy cartel

You could have burned your own BTC today :/. why so serious.

Well it's not right to take advantage of those who aren't aware of the xcp decentralized exchange, don't deny the cartel the discussions are clear on the xcp thread.

Warning to buyers: DO NOT buy from BT Talk, they formed a cartel and are ripping you off in here. XCP is sold 60% CHEAPER on the xcp decentralized exchange


http://blockscan.com/order.aspx?p=0 shows a few very small orders at prices lower than 0.01 BTC, but I am not seeing any significant orders at .004 BTC.

Where do you see a quote for .004 BTC?

I am sorry you missed out on the burning, but that does not give you the right to use misinformation.

James

P.S. the order for .0013 BTC was cancelled and was just a leftover from before. I assume all the orders for 1 XCP and 10 XCP are similar leftovers.
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February 03, 2014, 02:40:02 AM
#66
we have the power
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February 03, 2014, 02:35:06 AM
#65
Just a warning to buyers: XCP burners (basically early adopters) have formed a cartel (chk xcp thread) and jacked up the price artificially by 10x-15x times. Please don't accept these prices as the coin is still a prototype and isn't worth that much yet. They are a greedy cartel

You could have burned your own BTC today :/. why so serious.

Well it's not right to take advantage of those who aren't aware of the xcp decentralized exchange, don't deny the cartel the discussions are clear on the xcp thread.

Warning to buyers: DO NOT buy from BT Talk, they formed a cartel and are ripping you off in here. XCP is sold 60% CHEAPER on the xcp decentralized exchange

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February 03, 2014, 01:10:36 AM
#64
Do we know of any good escrow services currently brokering XCP > BTC trades?
counterpartyd Smiley
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February 03, 2014, 01:09:04 AM
#63
Do we know of any good escrow services currently brokering XCP > BTC trades?
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February 02, 2014, 11:23:01 PM
#62
Selling 200 XCP @ 0.01 BTC each

EDIT: 100 XCP left now
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February 02, 2014, 10:58:06 PM
#61
Try to get to the one inside counterparty as soon as you can, before it is gone for good. There is only one order out there.
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February 02, 2014, 10:41:30 PM
#60
How do you sell XCP without using counterpartyd?
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February 02, 2014, 10:20:43 PM
#59
Yeah like I said if you think that XCP should sell for anything less than 0.005 BTC per XCP you need to do some reading.

Frankly I see 0.02 in no time. Theres no reason why xcp market cap shouldnt be up there with the other top 10. 45 mil is reasonable.
Price inside counterparty is now .013 btc
Seems like no more sellers at .01 btc
.02 btc is roughly mastercoin parity
Does mastercoin have betting or dividends?
How important can making bets on the internet be? Oh. I guess maybe a lot!

Im seeing it being quoted as 0.0013...
my bad, I missed a zero
I wonder how much can still be purchased at such prices.
I need to get it running on my mac notebook!
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February 02, 2014, 10:03:55 PM
#58
Yeah like I said if you think that XCP should sell for anything less than 0.005 BTC per XCP you need to do some reading.

Frankly I see 0.02 in no time. Theres no reason why xcp market cap shouldnt be up there with the other top 10. 45 mil is reasonable.
Price inside counterparty is now .013 btc
Seems like no more sellers at .01 btc
.02 btc is roughly mastercoin parity
Does mastercoin have betting or dividends?
How important can making bets on the internet be? Oh. I guess maybe a lot!
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February 02, 2014, 09:45:45 PM
#57
Yeah like I said if you think that XCP should sell for anything less than 0.005 BTC per XCP you need to do some reading.
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February 02, 2014, 09:31:57 PM
#56
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February 02, 2014, 09:31:08 PM
#55
Is the Dex actually implemented and running bug free?

The Dex is actually implemented and running fine. There have been sample trades made on the exchanges. (There are some minor issues with rounding of numbers, e.g., 1.99999 vs 2.0, however the developers are working on it).

Hmm. I'm surprised. From the amount of finagling its taken the mastercoin dev's I had come to the conclusion that it was a rather complicated undertaking.

Hi, one of the (early) testers

The decentralized exchange is, and has been, working for weeks now. http://www.blockscan.com/order_match.aspx

So I can trade btc/xcp and vice versa? Why are we using a forum thread to trade?

Yes, you can trade BTC/XCP via the decentralized exchange on Counterparty. However, it is only command line based for now. (The GUI will be out on the 14th).
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February 02, 2014, 09:13:29 PM
#54

2648 BTC market cap is way too low for a protocol with the first functioning distributed exchange.

2648 BTC market cap was below much less innovative coins such as Kittehcoin or Tickets.


THIS
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February 02, 2014, 09:05:58 PM
#53
10 minutes after closing people want 10-15x haha... ponzi scheme much  Grin. Crypto is freaking crazy, just don't want to be left holding the worthless currency.

The price of .001 BTC/XCP at the very end of burn put the market cap at 2648 BTC

This put Counterparty at #25 on http://coinmarketcap.com/

2648 BTC market cap is way too low for a protocol with the first functioning distributed exchange.

2648 BTC market cap was below much less innovative coins such as Kittehcoin or Tickets.

It was obvious that there was nowhere for the price to go but up 2x, 4x, etc.

I'm regretting being conservative and only burning less than 10btc.

2 weeks into the burn, I was estimating that we would see at least 5000 btc burnt.  The total amount burned (2124 BTC) wound up being much lower than I expected.
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February 02, 2014, 08:57:36 PM
#52
10 minutes after closing people want 10-15x haha... ponzi scheme much  Grin. Crypto is freaking crazy, just don't want to be left holding the worthless currency.
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