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legendary
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December 22, 2020, 05:41:03 AM
#48
I myself have seen such criticisms, it should also include:

  • Bitcoin Can Be Cloned
  • Bitcoin is a Bubble
  • Bitcoin Fails As a Currency
  • Bitcoin Can't Scale
Bitcoin is not a currency, although regarded as a cryptocurrency not currency. Currency is regarded as the physical form of what we can spend just like paper money, the instrinsic value of a currency is money. Money has instrinsic value while bitcoin do appreciate  All these makes bitcoin to be a cryptocurrency, money and asset but not currency. About bitcoin cloning, it will be a critism from the novice side because only 21 million can be in total circulation, not fake ones can be made. Bitcoin price do fluctuates but not a bubble but an asset because over a long time period, the price would hava net increase.
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December 22, 2020, 01:48:32 AM
#47
It is very natural if there are some people who criticize Bitcoin, because we can't make everyone like Bitcoin. Only people who
hate Bitcoin are always looking for Bitcoin's weaknesses to criticize, rather than paying attention to the positives that Bitcoin
has given. Actually, the popular criticism mentioned in the opening post is not completely true, and there have been many articles
that provide good enough explanations for this. I think the point is that people always criticize Bitcoin not really believing in Bitcoin,
and not understanding Bitcoin.
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December 22, 2020, 01:35:20 AM
#46
I myself have seen such criticisms, it should also include:

  • Bitcoin Can Be Cloned
  • Bitcoin is a Bubble
  • Bitcoin Fails As a Currency
  • Bitcoin Can't Scale
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November 21, 2020, 04:14:33 AM
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4.Bitcoin is used for illicit activity.

This has been in the front of criticism of bitcoin by most people especially those in government which is one reason they give for not adopting bitcoin into their constitution a a means of payment just as fiat. This though has not stopped the use of bitcoin by large majority, the use of bitcoin has increased from it early stage.
That's right. We don't really have to go to the government because basically, even ordinary people thinks that way — bitcoin is a scam and is just an instrument for fraudulent activities.

That's primarily what comes to their minds even just hearing the word "bitcoin". Other criticisms come next when someone is finally in this field and uses it.
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November 21, 2020, 04:14:09 AM
#44
People tend to criticize what they don't believe or what they don't fully understand, or that doesn't meet their standards. Since Bitcoin was created and since it started gaining its momentum, Bitcoin had been criticized, and guess what some or maybe most of the people who doubted and criticized crypto are now investors or even supporters of it. People are always scared of change, innovation, and what is new so they question it.

That is them.

We can't stop people from criticizing Bitcoin or cryptocurrencies as a whole. One of the main reasons is that we could back number 5 criticism which says it is not backed with anything, if they could be more open to its possibilities it is the people and it is based on trust. It is not backed by anything then it is a scam, people should know that nothing can be created from nothing if it is not backed with anything, how could it be so huge right now.
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November 19, 2020, 07:35:33 AM
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Bitcoin Cash tried to become the number one cryptocurrency, but suffered a crushing defeat.

Monero is a highly toxic cryptocurrency.

Ethereum is an experimental cryptocurrency, there is no certainty that these experiments will not lead to its death.

There is currently no alternative to Bitcoin.

What do you mean by Monero being a "toxic cryptocurrency"?I know that hackers and sellers on the darkweb are using monero,but that doesn't make it "toxic".Monero is just a tool,just like Bitcoin and fiat money.
I used to like the concepts behind Ethereum,but all the ICOs and DeFi projects make me think that ETH is a scammers paradise.Comparing Bitcoin to Ethereum is wrong,because Ethereum doesn't have limited supply and the price volatility is lower.
Bitcoin Cash was created only for the sake to make big profits for a bunch of people like Roger Ver,who tried to exploit Bitcoin,but they are kicked out so they decided to create their own Bitcoin.
No altcoin can be an alternative to Bitcoin.
I couldn't care less about all the criticisms regarding Bitcoin.All the FUDsters will slowly accept the fact,that Bitcoin cannot be stopped.
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November 19, 2020, 04:26:51 AM
#42
One can criticize Bitcoin as much as one wants, but any criticism can be answered with a fairly well-founded counter-criticism as shown in the OP. 
People tend to criticize what they don't believe or what they don't fully understand, or that doesn't meet their standards. Since Bitcoin was created and since it started gaining its momentum, Bitcoin had been criticized, and guess what some or maybe most of the people who doubted and criticized crypto are now investors or even supporters of it. People are always scared of change, innovation, and what is new so they question it.

people loves to criticize what they believe is wrong but that mindset suddenly changed when they see that bitcoin is now starting to get popular . now many people throw away thier pride and finally joined bitcoin .

government acceptance and other forms of marketing can really help spread awareness , if these things are only easy we can remove peoples doubts effortlessly and gather them on here .

I can agree with that. As long as Bitcoin isn't accepted on a formal level and supported by institutions people will not have confidence.
Although Bitcoin is present for a years now it's still unknown to big majority of people or they find it illegal, shady and not worth their time and money.
Education and awareness about cryptocurrencies might help but as long as Bitcoin is limited to groups of enthusiasts and it isn't formally regulated I don't expect for situation to change.
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November 19, 2020, 04:21:15 AM
#41
One can criticize Bitcoin as much as one wants, but any criticism can be answered with a fairly well-founded counter-criticism as shown in the OP.  
People tend to criticize what they don't believe or what they don't fully understand, or that doesn't meet their standards. Since Bitcoin was created and since it started gaining its momentum, Bitcoin had been criticized, and guess what some or maybe most of the people who doubted and criticized crypto are now investors or even supporters of it. People are always scared of change, innovation, and what is new so they question it.

people loves to criticize what they believe is wrong but that mindset suddenly changed when they see that bitcoin is now starting to get popular . now many people throw away thier pride and finally joined bitcoin .government acceptance and other forms of marketing can really help spread awareness , if these things are only easy we can remove peoples doubts effortlessly and gather them on here . 

on the op's list , the number 1 and 2 are the most that being debated about  . its true that btc was too volatile but others people prove that they can still use btc for that purposes
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November 19, 2020, 04:05:17 AM
#40
One can criticize Bitcoin as much as one wants, but any criticism can be answered with a fairly well-founded counter-criticism as shown in the OP. 

"1. Bitcoin is too volatile to be a store of value."

What was that stable a few months ago when everything that is traditionally considered a store of value has lost its value? When someone loses their investment in BTC then it is a problem and when the same happens with stocks or gold then it is a normal occurrence.

"2. Bitcoin has failed as a means of payment."

The problem is not in the BTC itself (at least not completely), but let's be honest still its complexity when it comes to payments. In comparing card payments were sometimes no PIN or signature is required for authorization, you still need to have a little more technical knowledge to pay for something with Bitcoin. I’ve certainly paid with BTC hundreds of times over the years and it’s never been a problem for me - and the offer of online stores is growing every day.

"3. Bitcoin is wasteful."

In comparison with what? This false story is already so worn out that it is still pulled out of the closet only by complete ignoramuses or trolls for whom mathematics is not a strong point. The amount of energy consumed by electronic devices in stand-by mode in the US alone is many times higher than the total annual consumption consumed by BTC.

"4. Bitcoin is used for illicit activity."

The ratio of fiat to crypto in illegal activities is somewhere between 98% and 2%, maybe even more in favor of fiat - because criminals do not necessarily have to be smart, but they have obviously realized that it is much easier to control a blockchain than a fiat that goes out of hand in hand.

"5. Bitcoin is not backed by anything"

The greatest strength that BTC has is precisely the millions of people who own it and determine its value. They realize what they have in their hands, and that is definitely something better than a fiat that is backed by corrupt banks and rotten governments.

"6. Bitcoin will be replaced by a competitor."

Who says that? Those who have claimed and still claim that BCH or BSV is something much better than BTC, or the creators of the thousands of shitcoins who copied the original and most have failed within a year of appearing? Creating a crypto coin is the least problem, convincing people that it is better than Bitcoin is something that has very little chance of happening.

People tend to criticize what they don't believe or what they don't fully understand, or that doesn't meet their standards. Since Bitcoin was created and since it started gaining its momentum, Bitcoin had been criticized, and guess what some or maybe most of the people who doubted and criticized crypto are now investors or even supporters of it. People are always scared of change, innovation, and what is new so they question it.

legendary
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November 19, 2020, 03:53:41 AM
#39
This is what I hear in talk with people who don't know much (anything) about crypto and technology! They repeat that all the time, and like OP here I give them similar arguments, sometimes I use examples... I can only say that some people will never learn, doesn't matter how much you try!
Most recent criticism (of course after seeing btc over $16k once again) is how bitcoin is run by Rothschild, deep governments... classical conspiracy theory! Some "group of people" is pulling all the strings, and we are just puppets! Just one more way for them to control us and our lives!
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November 19, 2020, 01:09:16 AM
#38
In future there might be a new technology that will compete with bitcoin but I don’t see bitcoin backing off off or loosing its value completely. Naturally bitcoin is decentralized, anonymous and volatile  but with these bitcoin is still unique because it’s was not created to compete with other technology’s but to operate specifically as bitcoin.

Certainly there would be other new technologies in future that would operate similarly like bitcoin but that won’t be a threat to bitcoin currency, all bitcoin needs is to add more value and uniqueness to itself and with these its can stand the taste of time.
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November 18, 2020, 11:32:43 PM
#37
Hello my dear friend. Your explanations are very logical and you answered the questions faced almost everywhere in the world in the best way. You also used articles while doing this. you did a very good job again. thank you
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November 18, 2020, 09:08:50 AM
#36
Also, I cannot agree with the statement that Bitcoin is not backed by anything (N 5).  

Bitcoin has a production cost like any other mineral.  It is no coincidence that Satoshi Nakamoto called it a mineral and coined the term "miners".  

The cost of bitcoin is made up of electricity costs, equipment costs, and labor costs.  

Also Bitcoin has network significance.  This is also very important.  Bitcoin provides transactions between users who don't trust each other.  Transactions can be carried out without the intermediation of third parties.  

This makes it a unique asset suitable for practical use.
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November 18, 2020, 04:27:37 AM
#35
Bitcoin can be used for illicit acts, what about fiat? Before Bitcoin, fiat has been used for various bad activities and what has been done about it other than it to be increasing on a daily basis. In as much as fiat can be used for illicit activities, it can also be used for other good things, this then means that, using fiat for whatever reason is personal; all this can also be said of Bitcoin. Come to think of it, if Bitcoin is not valuable or is not a store of value, will it be used for anything, be it good or bad? People should stop looking at only the bad things others use Bitcoin for and focus on the potential it has and what it is solving. All these things they are saying about Bitcoin is because they have understood that it offers that which fiat do not offer, and that is, easier and trusted transactions etc.
Another point, Bitcoin will be replaced; over the years, many others always say Bitcoin have low speed etc, they proposed many things they will do better, but yet they are not even closed to replacing Bitcoin and now, nothing is being heard about them again.
Bitcoin is the best and there is nothing they can do about it, and the earlier they get involved, the better for them.
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November 18, 2020, 03:33:02 AM
#34
Starting with the number one criticism which is volatility, I have never had any problem with that, and I think everyone should understand by now that the volatility is part of what makes it interesting, and we know that with time it’s going to reduce.

People only complain about volatility when they are losing, but if they are in a position where they are making lots of profit they are never going to complain about the volatility lol, I have seen such people. Then as for the second point, I totally disagree with that one, Bitcoin didn’t fail as a method of payment, it still remains one of the best methods of transaction.
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November 17, 2020, 08:09:38 PM
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4. Bitcoin is used for illicit activity.
It's neither true, nor false. Like cash Bitcoin can be used for criminal activity, but it isn't the only use case.
That's why other governments tend to be hesitant to fully legalized bitcoin because of this issue--they are using it in illegal activities. Well, criminals are doing all the way aside from cash and they thought using bitcoin will finally mask their identity.

I don't think this is the main issue behind governments hesitating to give the green light to Bitcoin. It is too shallow for them not to allow Bitcoin because it is being used in illegal activities. Hell, even a spoon and a toothbrush are also used in illegal activities!

The real reason is that Bitcoin is beyond their control. They cannot intervene. That is the main reason. The governments are afraid Bitcoin would become too powerful. It is because there is nothing in Bitcoin which they could negotiate with, shut down, harass, threaten, and so forth.
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November 17, 2020, 07:01:22 PM
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4. Bitcoin is used for illicit activity.
It's neither true, nor false. Like cash Bitcoin can be used for criminal activity, but it isn't the only use case.

That's why other governments tend to be hesitant to fully legalized bitcoin because of this issue--they are using it in illegal activities. Well, criminals are doing all the way aside from cash and they thought using bitcoin will finally mask their identity.

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Bitcoin is too volatile to be a store of value.

But let us admit that even though we knew that it is too volatile, many are still getting the opportunity of this volatile market and make bitcoin as a store of value because we truly benefits from its unstable price and that's make him advantageous compare with othet store value assets.
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November 17, 2020, 06:55:23 PM
#31
you forgot to mention that some people still think bitcoin is a ponzi scheme.
bonus: my friend is a "well-educated" banker, and he thinks the creator of bitcoin already left bitcoin and sold bitcoin. oh.. "the creator of bitcoin" refers to the owner of bitcoin.com lol Grin

2. Bitcoin has failed as a means of payment.
IMO, it's not failed, it just not efficient for certain transactions, for example, microtransactions.
as a payment method, bitcoin should be effective and efficient for all kinds of transactions.

4. Bitcoin is used for illicit activity.
yeah, I agree with you. a knife can be used to kill people or just to cut an onion for your food.
in my country, USD usually became a medium for gratification and corruption by the government.
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November 17, 2020, 05:49:28 PM
#30
Criticism will always be a part and become a normal to any existent thing in this world for we individuals do have different perceptions towards something and those differences becomes a thing that serves as an observant type to criticize something that we usually do not fully understand what it is truly about. Criticizing something can be a good point to see flaws in a system or an object that will serve as a starting point to undergo certain improvement. People have initially judged Bitcoin ever since it have existed, many false accusations, lots of rumors spread but still look how tough Bitcoin is after all. This just show how criticism does not barely affect Bitcoin after all but it just makes it a lot more stronger than before due to certain improvements happening on it. Criticism will always be there at times, what the important thing is that you do know what exactly you stand with and do not get along with certain here says by other people about Bitcoin.

we cant please anybody, everybody wants to say something. but for those true believers, they wont be bothered by those criticisms anymore. just for example, even if youre doing good to others, some will really see it in a negative way, finding something to talk bout. so yeah, whatever the flaws of btc, most of us will stay. we already surpassed a lot of ups and downs, and yet btc is still here.

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4.Bitcoin is used for illicit activity.

This has been in the front of criticism of bitcoin by most people especially those in government which is one reason they give for not adopting bitcoin into their constitution a a means of payment just as fiat. This though has not stopped the use of bitcoin by large majority, the use of bitcoin has increased from it early stage.
And when the government rejects bitcoin, it only makes bitcoin more popular and reliable for crypto users to make profit during today's pandemic.  I agree with you.  today many people believe in bitcoin.  Crypto users are always alive, although bitcoin almost made me doubt when within 2 years bitcoin was stable and it was difficult to reach the moon.

i guess the media is also responsible on how it is perceived by public. they are making it big deal when btc or crypto is involved in some scam or fraudulent activity. whereas, in fiat money, it is just normal day when it is used for illegal activities.
but i believe people are now changing their stance in crypto, esp when paypal announced the integration of crypto in their system. i dont think, they will see crypto as scam in paypal.
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November 17, 2020, 05:46:11 PM
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4.Bitcoin is used for illicit activity.

This has been in the front of criticism of bitcoin by most people especially those in government which is one reason they give for not adopting bitcoin into their constitution a a means of payment just as fiat. This though has not stopped the use of bitcoin by large majority, the use of bitcoin has increased from it early stage.
And when the government rejects bitcoin, it only makes bitcoin more popular and reliable for crypto users to make profit during today's pandemic.  I agree with you.  today many people believe in bitcoin.  Crypto users are always alive, although bitcoin almost made me doubt when within 2 years bitcoin was stable and it was difficult to reach the moon.
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