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Quote from: aioc on April 23, 2021, 08:01:43 AM

Both strategies will not give you profit, I tried both I still end up losing money, it's on the preference of the player, sometimes I feel like putting everything in one roll to see if it's my lucky day and sometimes I'm using the variation of the martingale if I'm lucky I made a profit in any one of them, it's important that you only gamble what you can afford to lose.

Without any doubts martingale strategy has more chances of working for a longer time than the only single bet strategy. It's unusual to see a gambler hitting a long loss streak with martingale on his first bets, but if you are going to use your whole balance to make one single bet there is a high chance you are going to lose it all on the first match.
Both strategies won't work on long run, but martingale will make your game last longer.

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Both strategies will not give you profit, I tried both I still end up losing money, it's on the preference of the player, sometimes I feel like putting everything in one roll to see if it's my lucky day and sometimes I'm using the variation of the martingale if I'm lucky I made a profit in any one of them, it's important that you only gamble what you can afford to lose.

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One-time bet is the worse choice of betting compared to the martingale system. With a one-time bet, you only have a single chance. It is do or die, make or break. After only a single loss, you are done. With the martingale system, you still have a way to make a come-back. It does not mean that your betting will end with only a single loss. In fact, with a martingale system you only need to win once and you will not only recover your losses, you will also make a profit. But this needs a lot of money.

All in all, both strategies are not advisable.

obviously, there is no chance of getting back the loss if you lose the first bet you did. but with martingale, you might just find your luck after the 3rd to 4th time. somehow after years of trying martingale, I'm still experiencing losing streaks and eventually lose all.

Martingale works sometimes. It depends on the streak. If you are only losing for 3-4 consecutive times, Martingale might help you recover your loss and even give you a profit. But at times a losing streak is long enough that a Martingale strategy cannot anymore support.

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generally, gambling isn't advisable. you only do it for fun, not for making money. call it a day whenever you get to win $100. the next day you lose $100 using martingale, still call it a day.

The best strategy in gambling is to limit your money and your time. Self-discipline is what every gambler needs to develop. Knowing when to stop will keep your losses tolerable.

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It depends on the person who will bet. Some want to prolong their gambling time to have fun even if they win or lose the bet as long as they have the excitement and fun they want compared to one time bet. In one time bet, some doesn't want to bet many times if they know that they will lose or win the bet.

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Martingale strat also has a glitch when rage bets happens. Many times I did that martingale and one time bet. Pure luck is all we wanted when doing any strategy.

Doing martingale in different multiplier is somehow effective but remember that all strategies when used for so long will be monitored by the house and will not gonna be effective. Same goes with that big bets but one time only. It is a do or die strategy but you should also think of what multiplier you will gonna use.

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

Well if you go to the Google you would find something like this :

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But in reality the system is very different and cannot be used. I do think it would only work if you had unlimited money in the bank account and a lot of betting chances. Well honestly players usually see a table like this online and think that the system would work even for a single bet but rather the players usually have :

1. Limited games
2. Limited money

Therefore this cannot work for a single bet !! More or so there is always a gap in theory vs practical applications. Therefore I do think if a player is only going to make a single bet he/she rather use the probability and see how it goes.

More than $1000 loss when experiencing 10x losing streak and you only started with $1.

I actually play around with martingale with dice like 40 roll under and then if I lose 3 times, I will shift to roll over, still 40, and still double the amount loss. It probably disrupts the pre-program of the casino and sometimes I break the losing streak. Somehow though if I don't quit playing for the day, I end up losing more than half of my capital. Casino still wins.

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If I understand the Martingale system and it's rapid re-rolling of the numbers, it's simply a means to an end to play more turns more quickly with higher returns. I've given it a go a couple of times, but I'm not quite sure I've got the knack of it, or getting the settings down pat properly (all that happens is my funds evaporate) Roll Eyes

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

Why would gamblers prefer to gamble everything in one roll? there's no fun in this when in the first place we are going to a gambling site or casinos to spend time and have fun, we all know that we are going to eventually lose in the long run but why taking a chance to lose it in one roll and spend just a couple of minutes, it's more heartbreaking to lose everything in one roll than losing it after 50 or more rolls.

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

Everyone has their way of doing things and the bank roll is the main thing you need to look for if you are playing the martingale system and i used to use the bot to play the system but not anymore and i do roll one time bet once in a while simply because my mind set and preference changed with time and now a days i rarely play the martingale system.

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

To call these methods a "system" is trying to induce and imply some sort of skillful element being involved. Both of these setups purely rely on chance and the "chance" a long term gambler will receive is a pre-determined number within the casino. That number is built to steadily drain the funds of each player, turning over a "rake" or "commission" in return for a form of entertainment. Even when you do win, there are many psychological tricks, greed and self deceit that most players cannot walk away from a "one-time-bet". It is an perpetual illusion that the majority of people will have enough self control to stop, because people with self control do not fritter away money on this type of bet and know that martingale is fake. You also have to understand that casinos can "play fair" while also putting automatic protections in place to slow down play or make sure they do not payout major amounts (like forcing a string of losses after a few random generated wins).

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

Well if you go to the Google you would find something like this :

(Image taken from google)

But in reality the system is very different and cannot be used. I do think it would only work if you had unlimited money in the bank account and a lot of betting chances. Well honestly players usually see a table like this online and think that the system would work even for a single bet but rather the players usually have :

1. Limited games
2. Limited money

Therefore this cannot work for a single bet !! More or so there is always a gap in theory vs practical applications. Therefore I do think if a player is only going to make a single bet he/she rather use the probability and see how it goes.

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Quote from: madnessteat on April 22, 2021, 05:49:09 AM

The mathematical model of Martingale suggests that with a bankroll tending towards infinity, the player will be in the black. In reality, this strategy does not give the player any advantage over the casino and many are convinced of this from personal experience.

If you do have such bankroll where you can continue to double your money from each loses that you encounter then maybe this one will work, but based from many experienced coming from those gamblers there's none that exist.

No one have unlimited bankroll along the way you'll lose and you'll regret using this system. Better to play to find entertainment even you lose you gain enjoyment.

Martingale or Yolo both mostly leads you to lose your bankroll. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: plr on April 22, 2021, 07:41:02 AM

Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

I don't want to lose everything in one roll I would like to prolong and enjoy the game and variations of the martingale will make me play longer, I have experienced playing using a martingale and I sometimes my game last minutes to a few hours, this is what we all want, to play and enjoy the game for a longer period of time.

That feeling will be a pain in our head to see all of the money lost in just one roll without recovering the losses because the money is gone already. But if you can have control over yourself, you will use one time bet to play gambling to play for more rounds. Even if you lose in the current round, you will have a chance to win in the next roll, although that is not advisable to continue playing gambling after losing for some rolls. Maybe a gambler wants to test their luck in the one time bet so they do that occasionally.

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Quote from: plr on April 22, 2021, 07:41:02 AM

Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

I don't want to lose everything in one roll I would like to prolong and enjoy the game and variations of the martingale will make me play longer, I have experienced playing using a martingale and I sometimes my game last minutes to a few hours, this is what we all want, to play and enjoy the game for a longer period of time.

dont say loose because we dont know what luck in store for us but it was rare for a gambler to depo and max out his bet for the first time except if it was an accident but we do maxout out after a set of loose ,
we come back to depo again to revenge .
using martingale dont automaticaly make your game long but it depends on the configuration . set your increase on loose in small percent but not too small because you will loose in the long run because of the edge .

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

I guess that you are not fully understanding how martingale approach is working. It is a strategy which will ensure that your loss will be recovered in next attempt (or next to next attempt) and then you can get back to your original way of gambling. Single roll is the core part in martingale strategy as well.

But, when you are losing a bet then you will get chances to balance that losing bet in martingale approach. If you are winning then it will remain exact as "single roll".

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on April 22, 2021, 07:54:14 AM

One-time bet is the worse choice of betting compared to the martingale system. With a one-time bet, you only have a single chance. It is do or die, make or break. After only a single loss, you are done. With the martingale system, you still have a way to make a come-back. It does not mean that your betting will end with only a single loss. In fact, with a martingale system you only need to win once and you will not only recover your losses, you will also make a profit. But this needs a lot of money.

All in all, both strategies are not advisable.

obviously, there is no chance of getting back the loss if you lose the first bet you did. but with martingale, you might just find your luck after the 3rd to 4th time. somehow after years of trying martingale, I'm still experiencing losing streaks and eventually lose all.

generally, gambling isn't advisable. you only do it for fun, not for making money. call it a day whenever you get to win $100. the next day you lose $100 using martingale, still call it a day.

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One-time bet is the worse choice of betting compared to the martingale system. With a one-time bet, you only have a single chance. It is do or die, make or break. After only a single loss, you are done. With the martingale system, you still have a way to make a come-back. It does not mean that your betting will end with only a single loss. In fact, with a martingale system you only need to win once and you will not only recover your losses, you will also make a profit. But this needs a lot of money.

All in all, both strategies are not advisable.

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

I don't want to lose everything in one roll I would like to prolong and enjoy the game and variations of the martingale will make me play longer, I have experienced playing using a martingale and I sometimes my game last minutes to a few hours, this is what we all want, to play and enjoy the game for a longer period of time.

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The mathematical model of Martingale suggests that with a bankroll tending towards infinity, the player will be in the black. In reality, this strategy does not give the player any advantage over the casino and many are convinced of this from personal experience.

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Quote from: Beparanf on April 22, 2021, 02:00:57 AM

Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

Losing slowly is less stress compared to losing all your money at 1 roll. Regret is the most common gambling side effect after playing so people don't to regret on that one big decision, Besides that, People usually gamble for fun and spend some leisure time. That 1 roll strategy is not suited for most of the people who play gambling.

Losing slowly can make a gambler stay for some time in the gambling site than losing in just 1 roll. Yes, the feeling of regret will be bigger for losing in 1 roll than in many time because they will still have a chance to win in the next roll. People search for how they can have fun and enjoy their time even if they lose their money in one hour or more. Perhaps, if you are in a hurry because of an urgent situation, you can just use bet in 1 roll to bet for the last and you do not care about the result.

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