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Quote from: JollyGood on September 25, 2021, 10:28:20 AM

During my time in the forum I have never come across a post such as the one used by the OP. If what has been mentioned is true then it really is creepy.

I still have my doubts about that. The OP never provided any evidence to back up his claims. I think he's just some kind of attention-seeker.

Quote from: JollyGood on September 25, 2021, 10:28:20 AM

What is the official age limit here to register an account? If anybody knows please post here.

It doesn't seem to exist at all. The unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules and guidelines doesn't mention an age limit for registration, so I'm assuming it doesn't exist then.

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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on September 25, 2021, 10:53:45 AM

Quote from: JollyGood on September 25, 2021, 10:28:20 AM

I think the method you suggest is definitely one way to look at the situation, for the OP to grow and be tough but they are still a child.

I think the best course of action for now would be to advise the OP to seek some sort of help by speaking to an adult family member or a school teacher to address the gambling issue. It seems a child is gambling using crypto and it is not either a priority or concern to members of the forum and that cannot be right.

What is the official age limit here to register an account? If anybody knows please post here.

If you read the messages of this "child", then he has been on the Internet for a long time. Read his posts that he is some kind of developer out there since 10 years old, and is trying to sell on the network using anonymity.
Is this a child who is very defenseless? In this case, let's be educators since his parents are not involved in raising him.
I know what I'm talking about. Children on the Internet are not quite children, men are not quite men, that is, people are not always who they say they are. I am always skeptical about this.
Once he got to this forum, as LoyceV said, I used the wrong meaning of "adult forum", then he quite knows where and how to ignore or simply not respond to someone who is unpleasant to him.
The theme was created to bring him a handkerchief. The kid lacks attention.

In my country, at the age of 14, guys already become fathers Grin

I understand the situation a little bit better now after reading your post.

I have not looked in the background information of the OP or tried to verify his claims but his age is stated in the neutral feedback and by his own admission he was allegedly involved with coding which at the time would have put him at around (as you correctly stated) 10 years old and there not many in the forum who would believe that and even so there is no way to ascertain what he says it true or otherwise.

I am beginning to feel the same as you stated: "people are not always who they say they are" therefore on that note I am making my final post in this thread.

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Quote from: JollyGood on September 25, 2021, 10:28:20 AM

I think the method you suggest is definitely one way to look at the situation, for the OP to grow and be tough but they are still a child.

I think the best course of action for now would be to advise the OP to seek some sort of help by speaking to an adult family member or a school teacher to address the gambling issue. It seems a child is gambling using crypto and it is not either a priority or concern to members of the forum and that cannot be right.

What is the official age limit here to register an account? If anybody knows please post here.

If you read the messages of this "child", then he has been on the Internet for a long time. Read his posts that he is some kind of developer out there since 10 years old, and is trying to sell on the network using anonymity.
Is this a child who is very defenseless? In this case, let's be educators since his parents are not involved in raising him.
I know what I'm talking about. Children on the Internet are not quite children, men are not quite men, that is, people are not always who they say they are. I am always skeptical about this.
Once he got to this forum, as LoyceV said, I used the wrong meaning of "adult forum", then he quite knows where and how to ignore or simply not respond to someone who is unpleasant to him.
The theme was created to bring him a handkerchief. The kid lacks attention.

In my country, at the age of 14, guys already become fathers Grin

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Quote from: LoyceV on September 25, 2021, 10:32:15 AM

Quote from: PrimeNumber7 on September 25, 2021, 10:22:32 AM

The purpose of my proposal is to prevent preditors from coming to the forum

In a place without KYC, age limits are useless. How about we disallow predators from joining, instead of kids who are interested in the possible future of money?

It is not necessary to disallow predators from joining. If we don't want preditors to join, we can simply remove the incentives a preditor might have to join the forum. Some preditors might join anyway, but they will probably not prey on kids on the forum.

If someone is talking about their homework, IMO they are more likely to be in their 20's than a softmore or a freshman in high school (at least on these forums). So if someone is a freshman in high school, talking about homework, a potential predator would have no idea how old they are, and the person would most likely be an adult. This means this person is not going to get preyed on (hopefully).

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Quote from: LoyceV on September 25, 2021, 03:35:10 AM

Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on September 23, 2021, 06:59:52 PM

Interesting, the post ownership is changed to "Guest". I haven't seen that in years!

@theymos should change the post ownership in this thread too because @everyone even @OP itself describing his personal stuff here.

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Quote from: PrimeNumber7 on September 25, 2021, 10:22:32 AM

The purpose of my proposal is to prevent preditors from coming to the forum

In a place without KYC, age limits are useless. How about we disallow predators from joining, instead of kids who are interested in the possible future of money?

Quote from: JollyGood on September 25, 2021, 10:28:20 AM

What is the official age limit here to register an account? If anybody knows please post here.

Under US law, I've often seen an age limit of 13 years, this applies to many things, from forums to chats. For WhatsApp, it's 16+. For Facebook and Google, it's 13+. None of that stops kids from joining.
I always assumed this restriction was because they don't have a creditcard yet.

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 24, 2021, 02:07:32 AM

Wow. That’s incredibly creepy. I never thought we had to worry about predators combing these boards, but it is apparently happening and likely has been for some time. I guess as the community grows, so do the problems as more of society’s riff raff finds their way into our beloved online gathering place.

During my time in the forum I have never come across a post such as the one used by the OP. If what has been mentioned is true then it really is creepy.

Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on September 25, 2021, 02:04:10 AM

In addition, we can say that since the OP is very young, but registered on an adult forum, he must understand that he needs to grow up, and not complain about every personal message that came to him personally. Mom's not here. The fact that the OP created a similar topic already suggests that he understands that something that happened badly. So why not just ignore the person who sent him the message, or refuse to receive messages altogether, since he is still so small? Has the Internet always been secure?
I see it as a "The problem is created out of a thin air." OP, grow up, there are many bad uncles and aunts in the world, just don't hang out with strangers. I think your parents told you about it?

By the way, you don't need to go anywhere in search of his age, just look at his neutral trust. I think that since the Admin has deleted information about him in the topic, it would be worthwhile to delete this neutral review.

I think the method you suggest is definitely one way to look at the situation, for the OP to grow and be tough but they are still a child.

I think the best course of action for now would be to advise the OP to seek some sort of help by speaking to an adult family member or a school teacher to address the gambling issue. It seems a child is gambling using crypto and it is not either a priority or concern to members of the forum and that cannot be right.

What is the official age limit here to register an account? If anybody knows please post here.

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Quote from: LoyceV on September 25, 2021, 03:35:10 AM

Quote from: PrimeNumber7 on September 24, 2021, 11:53:07 PM

There is an argument to say it should be against the rules to claim to be under a certain age threshold, probably somewhere between 16 and 18 due to the type of people this tends to attract.

That would be annoying: LoyceV was born 6 years ago (out of a random name generator).

That is both false and ridiculous. You created your account 6 years ago, you were not born 6 years ago. The purpose of my proposal is to prevent preditors from coming to the forum, the value of which far exceeds playing dumb word games.

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on September 25, 2021, 09:37:16 AM

Quote from: PrimeNumber7 on September 24, 2021, 11:53:07 PM

Regardless of one's age, this forum is generally not a good way to meet someone IRL, due to security concerns, regardless of your age, as someone you meet may do serious harm to you in trying to learn your private keys/seed.

Absolutely right, and I also agree with you that there should probably be a rule against declaring oneself to be a minor (though the definition of "minor" varies widely). I don't think this forum has ever had a problem with sexual predators, and I'd still like to see that PM that was sent to OP, but better safe than sorry IMO. Maybe Theymos could create a new rule about that.

A rule against posting that someone is under 16 or 17 would prevent the worst predators from wanting to come to the forum. The age the OP claimed to be is especially young, and if people come to the forum looking for kids the age the OP claims to be on any kind of regular basis, it is going to lose a lot of valuable members, as most people do not want to be associated with a place that attracts that kind of people, and depending on how bad things get, the forum could get shut down and/or PMs could end up in the hands of law enforcement in mass.

There is no reason to be claiming that you are a young child, just as there is no reason to be contacting someone because they are a young child.

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Quote from: PrimeNumber7 on September 24, 2021, 11:53:07 PM

Regardless of one's age, this forum is generally not a good way to meet someone IRL, due to security concerns, regardless of your age, as someone you meet may do serious harm to you in trying to learn your private keys/seed.

Absolutely right, and I also agree with you that there should probably be a rule against declaring oneself to be a minor (though the definition of "minor" varies widely). I don't think this forum has ever had a problem with sexual predators, and I'd still like to see that PM that was sent to OP, but better safe than sorry IMO. Maybe Theymos could create a new rule about that.

Quote from: LoyceV on September 25, 2021, 03:35:10 AM

Interesting, the post ownership is changed to "Guest". I haven't seen that in years!

That was nice of Theymos to do (though he might have done it out of concern for liability, but either way it was the right thing to do).

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Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on September 23, 2021, 06:59:52 PM

But you did it here

Interesting, the post ownership is changed to "Guest". I haven't seen that in years!

Quote from: QuickAccount on September 23, 2021, 04:08:02 PM

I reported the user to theymos and I hope they and their ip gets banned.

IP-bans are pretty useless, and it looks like the user wasn't banned either.

Quote from: QuickAccount on September 23, 2021, 03:36:56 PM

it really looks like they're trying to groom me.

Since you're aware of it, it's easy to ignore. The risk is for children who aren't aware.

That being said: you shouldn't "advertise" online that you're doing illegal things (violating Stake's Terms by underage gambling, whether it's true or not).

Quote from: QuickAccount on September 24, 2021, 09:51:32 AM

As for the gambling, I have since quit and it was never with money that wasnt mine.

There are much more useful ways to spend your time online. Learn to program for instance, creating content is much better than consuming content.

Quote from: PrimeNumber7 on September 24, 2021, 11:53:07 PM

There is an argument to say it should be against the rules to claim to be under a certain age threshold, probably somewhere between 16 and 18 due to the type of people this tends to attract.

That would be annoying: LoyceV was born 6 years ago (out of a random name generator).

Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on September 25, 2021, 02:04:10 AM

In addition, we can say that since the OP is very young, but registered on an adult forum

The term "adult forum" suggests something else. I'd say Bitcoin has no age limits, even though many exchanges think differently.

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In addition, we can say that since the OP is very young, but registered on an adult forum, he must understand that he needs to grow up, and not complain about every personal message that came to him personally. Mom's not here. The fact that the OP created a similar topic already suggests that he understands that something that happened badly. So why not just ignore the person who sent him the message, or refuse to receive messages altogether, since he is still so small? Has the Internet always been secure?
I see it as a "The problem is created out of a thin air." OP, grow up, there are many bad uncles and aunts in the world, just don't hang out with strangers. I think your parents told you about it?

By the way, you don't need to go anywhere in search of his age, just look at his neutral trust. I think that since the Admin has deleted information about him in the topic, it would be worthwhile to delete this neutral review.

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Quote from: The Cryptovator on September 24, 2021, 01:13:33 PM

So if the user who contacts you through PM is right means somehow your private information has leaked.

not somehow. the OP mentioned his age himself on the two threads he created on the gambling board. anyway, I checked both threads today and both of them have been edited by theymos to show the creator of the thread as a guest with a different username.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on September 23, 2021, 06:59:52 PM

Quote from: QuickAccount on September 23, 2021, 04:08:02 PM

Thanks for the advice, none of my posts have personal information

But you did it here

I think that's where the guy read information about you from.

It looks like (I presume) theymos removed the OP's post from that thread, edited the OP to reflect that a "guest" made the thread, and edited the posts quoting the OP to be quoting a "guest" account. I was able to review the thread in question via alternative means.

I have previously seen the OP as being fairly immature but did not see him as being as young as he claims to be.

I don't see any legitimate reason for someone to be claiming to be the age the OP claimed to be in the relevant thread. There is an argument to say it should be against the rules to claim to be under a certain age threshold, probably somewhere between 16 and 18 due to the type of people this tends to attract. Regardless of one's age, this forum is generally not a good way to meet someone IRL, due to security concerns, regardless of your age, as someone you meet may do serious harm to you in trying to learn your private keys/seed.

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So if the user who contacts you through PM is right means somehow your private information has leaked. Either from the forum or some other platform where you have been using the same username or details. Since you report it to the admin, then the account would get a temporary ban, depends on the PM contents. And from now on you should be careful with your privacy. If it's exposed then you would face a similar issue in near future as well. I don't think we can help you much on that case.

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Let me state a few things, I am taking measures to scrub personal information from my posts. Mistakes were made. As for the gambling, I have since quit and it was never with money that wasnt mine. It is never OK to steal money to gambling or at all.

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Wow. That’s incredibly creepy. I never thought we had to worry about predators combing these boards, but it is apparently happening and likely has been for some time. I guess as the community grows, so do the problems as more of society’s riff raff finds their way into our beloved online gathering place.

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Just ignore him dude, this forum is full of such scamming freak's roaming around.

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It might help us find where your story will end if you provide the context of the message. By the message you posted here, it seems like he got an idea how old you are already.

It could be a red flag but nothing is violated because after all, it's a piece of public information now. What could happen in discord is still about to happen. It'd be interesting how things will be.

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Quote from: decodx on September 23, 2021, 07:31:16 PM

If you're accusing someone, you better provide some evidence. This is some serious allegations (although I'm still not clear what you mean by "groom me" exactly).

Thank you for stating that more strongly than I wanted to. I hate to say it, but just based on what OP wrote it seems like a giant leap to think that because of a single PM someone is "grooming" him. That's also why I want to see the PM, but I'm not even sure if OP is going to come back to this thread. It is indeed a serious accusation.

Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on September 23, 2021, 06:59:52 PM

But you did it here

Ugh. OP, that's the kind of stuff you might not want to post anywhere on the internet, and I'm not even talking about attracting perverts (though that's part of it). If you're at school daydreaming about being online gambling, I'd say you've got a problem that needs to be dealt with sooner rather than later--plus I'm pretty sure it's not legal for you to be gambling at your age. You're just going to attract all sorts of negativity, and your words written on this site are permanently linked with you if someone knows your real identity. I don't even want to know how you get money to gamble.

OK, I'm done being the stern random internet father figure. Lol.

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Quote from: QuickAccount on September 23, 2021, 03:36:56 PM

Today I received a message from user "excro". /cut/

If you're accusing someone, you better provide some evidence. This is some serious allegations (although I'm still not clear what you mean by "groom me" exactly).

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Are you sure this is the guy who sent you the message? - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/excro-2961409

He's a Jr member. Initially, I thought it was a throw away newbie account sending you the PM. I am wondering what his intentions could be.

Quote from: QuickAccount on September 23, 2021, 04:08:02 PM

Thanks for the advice, none of my posts have personal information

But you did it here

I think that's where the guy read information about you from.

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Quote from: QuickAccount on September 23, 2021, 04:08:02 PM

Thanks for the advice, none of my posts have personal information and I have made sure of that. I reported the user to theymos and I hope they and their ip gets banned. We dont need people like him on this forum.

It won't result in a ban, there's a "take care of yourself environment" here on the forum. Just take precautions.

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You received a PM from this guy on bitcointalk? I usually wouldn't ask for a PM to be posted in a thread, but in a case like this where you're kinda-sorta accusing him of trying to "groom" you, I think you should. It sounds like he specifically mentioned your age, and I'd like to know in what context he did that.

This is the first time I've seen anything like this, likely because this forum isn't exactly the place where a pervert would be looking for underage boys. Not saying it couldn't happen, but I'd want more info before making a judgement against excro. Never heard of him before, either.

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Thanks for the advice, none of my posts have personal information and I have made sure of that. I reported the user to theymos and I hope they and their ip gets banned. We dont need people like him on this forum.

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Can I suggest you scrub all of your personal information from your posts. Whether real or not, there's a decent chance asking people not to engage with you won't work. It's also fairly easy for users to slip up and provide more information than they intend to, especially if you are indeed a minor.

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