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Quote from: vinca BK. on October 02, 2021, 04:23:05 PM

As title says,

Since casinos are not giving any kind of free money and they have a house edge that guarantee the win for them in a long run no matter where do you bet or from which account, i.e. They aren’t either losers or winners. It’s usually used to prevent spamming by bots. The idea is that why would a bot use dual account while they can change seeds and do everything from one account?!

I’M afraid there is a something we don’t know about this Grin

If you ever visit scam accusations section, you should have seen atleast one problem from this kind from a very trusted known casinos which looks weird for me.

I think the most common reason a casino ban someone's account (because they have more than one account) is because he is trying to get the welcome bonus again. The welcome bonus can only be claimed once, so trying to get the bonus again is considered as cheating.
It could probably also be banned by trying to cheat the odds system with not allowed betting, but to be honest, I don't know exactly how it works.

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Back when I was playing at YoloDice, the reason why ethan has done multiple ban wave is that there are many users who created a shitload of account to abuse the "Free" crypto claims whenever the wallet balance of that particular account has been reduced to 0.

They usually transfer the balance to their alt accounts until the free claim has run out. And yeah, they're doing it multiple times with multiple account in just a day! Incidents like these are the reason why gambling sites doesn't allow their users to have multiple account -- to at least give limitation for people whose hungry for money..

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Quote from: zanezane on October 04, 2021, 02:26:17 AM

I don't know exactly the reason of those sites but one thing that I am sure of as to why they ban multi accounts is because they don't like to encourage exploitation especially with rewards and at the same time deter those exploiters.

They just don't want for a gambler to abuse the system because if you have multiple accounts, there's a higher chance that you abuse their platform especially the referral program. They are just protecting their own reputation and they can't let any player to abuse it. There's no need for them to explain every rules, we just need to follow it and if you think the rules is not ok, you can just leave the site simple as that.

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The fact that a person creates more account is already a suspicious act. Perhaps, that's a form of a deliberate abuse.
I don't even see any reasonable explanation why would someone creates multiple accounts on a gambling website, except the lost accounts.

Just like everyone said, the online casino doesn't want to give free bonuses to the same person twice. They might want a fair share for everyone who uses their service.
Plain and simple, the main reason why online casinos doesn't allow multiple "active" accounts is because it will eliminate the fairness of the casino.

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Quote from: vinca BK. on October 02, 2021, 04:23:05 PM

As title says,

Since casinos are not giving any kind of free money and they have a house edge that guarantee the win for them in a long run no matter where do you bet or from which account, i.e. They aren’t either losers or winners. It’s usually used to prevent spamming by bots. The idea is that why would a bot use dual account while they can change seeds and do everything from one account?!

I’M afraid there is a something we don’t know about this Grin

If you ever visit scam accusations section, you should have seen atleast one problem from this kind from a very trusted known casinos which looks weird for me.

The reason is they just want to combat those exploiters that just wantk to milk the casino over multi-accounting. For sure if you have a firm that you own you'd be never be happy as well if someone wants to abuse it because if in the long run it will be the same scenario then it will be bad for a business.

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Quote from: vinca BK. on October 02, 2021, 04:23:05 PM

As title says,

Since casinos are not giving any kind of free money and they have a house edge that guarantee the win for them in a long run no matter where do you bet or from which account, i.e. They aren’t either losers or winners. It’s usually used to prevent spamming by bots. The idea is that why would a bot use dual account while they can change seeds and do everything from one account?!

I’M afraid there is a something we don’t know about this Grin

If you ever visit scam accusations section, you should have seen atleast one problem from this kind from a very trusted known casinos which looks weird for me.

There is nothing magical that you don't know. The reason behind that is simple: Casino has to verify the account you gamble with and they'll ask to submit KYC. One person = one account. The reason why they ban multiple accounts is because of the abuse potential. You may sit on a 3 person poker table with two of your account and use it as an advantage to win over another person. With two account, you can cheat well. Not only this but you can also abuse promotions. Check websites like freebitco, Bitsler, Fortunejack and check their promotions, the structure of their promotions looks like it won't be fair for the rest of honest players if someone plays with multiple accounts.

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Quote from: Chato1977 on October 04, 2021, 06:36:22 AM

if they will allow multiple accounts? then there are maybe millions or billions of players and will joining their freebies for that particular law.

gambling site has many places to give funds for events.

The main reason for the ban is abuse, I think it's alright to create multiple accounts if it's not used to take advantage of anything. Most casinos offered anonymous gambling, then it should not be a problem for them if you have multiple accounts as you can dispose one of your accounts and create a new one.

I have multiple accounts on some of the gambling sites but I don't face any problem, maybe there are some that restrict it but we should be aware of the TOS and just abide by the rules to avoid problems.

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if they will allow multiple accounts? then there are maybe millions or billions of players and will joining their freebies for that particular law.

gambling site has many places to give funds for events.

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If we put aside all the bonuses for new players. Are multiple accounts real reasons for bans?

I've seen people on twitch stream their poker games. Sometimes streamer play on 4-8 tables simultaneously. Why this is not allowed? Chances of him loosing money is 3-7 times more, compared if he would play only on one table. This is allowed.

While playing blackjack offline, I can put more than one bet. This will be two my bets against dealer. Isnt is a multiple account usage in IRL ? This is fully allowed.

Right now I have opened two chrome pages Dice and Plinko from a single account. I can play both games simultaneously. But I can not play Dice from one account and Plinko from other. I cant find logical explanation of that.

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Quote from: Ryker1 on October 02, 2021, 04:55:10 PM

Well, I think not all of them ^{[I saw casinos that allow multiple accounts]}--in this case, you must open to them is if you are allowed to create another account. Perhaps the possible reason is prone to abuse, running two accounts in one casino is everywhere restricted and that is always on their TOS. However, in scam accusation has a different story, but usually, cases are users did not read the TOS and without knowing them they already prohibit the law which is very risky, the most punishments is blocking your account. If you deactivated one and then create another one, there is no problem but I think always read the TOS will not put you in danger and it is best if you have one account.

Having more than one account is really prone to abuse.
This is the major reason why most casinos are not allowing such practice.
For those scam allegations, most of them haven't read the ToS of the site before creating their other accounts.
So it is not the fault of the site, but the player himself.
And if you are a gambler, what do you think is your main reason of creating another account?
Though some just want to separate their activities but a lot are after for some referral bonus or other things that the site deemed as abuse.

This topic should be moved to gambling discussion board - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=228.0.

The reason of separating activities is too weird already, why not put it all on one account? as having multiple accounts is already suspicious and the reason mostly behind making multiple accounts is to abuse the system, the freebies, the referral bonuses, if Casinos let users get away with this then that's just poor management and security overall, unfair and abusive, even if it's not the Casino's fault and the player not reading the ToS, the toll would still be on the Casino itself because they've let users spam and abuse this kind of system.

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Quote from: MrcMrc on October 04, 2021, 01:00:34 AM

Sometimes, the creation of multiple accounts is legal why other instances it’s illegal and the gambling site can close your accounts with no warning or refund of your deposits, truly this situation has caused all the crises as gambling sites are always accused of scams arising from such incidents. One of the major reasons is the abuse of the bonus system. This is said to be the creation of multiple accounts with the intent to repeatedly claim bonuses on them.

That still cheats the casino because they only want to claim more bonuses without thinking about getting banned from the casino. I think that is happening in many casinos and we see many cases of banning or blocking many users' accounts in that casino without refunding the deposits money. That will be the user's mistake because they are trying to have multiple accounts but if the casino allows that, maybe the casino needs to explain why they ban the user account.

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Quote from: zanezane on October 04, 2021, 02:26:17 AM

I don't know exactly the reason of those sites but one thing that I am sure of as to why they ban multi accounts is because they don't like to encourage exploitation especially with rewards and at the same time deter those exploiters.

but not all that open more than one account in a gambling site has an evil plan like that but some open more than one account because of some reasons like they believe that they could be lucky in their other accounts if they loss in the first account .
we know that sounds silly but thats what they believe and they believe on it because it already happen to them . i knew several gamblers that play like this before .

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I don't know exactly the reason of those sites but one thing that I am sure of as to why they ban multi accounts is because they don't like to encourage exploitation especially with rewards and at the same time deter those exploiters.

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Sometimes, the creation of multiple accounts is legal why other instances it’s illegal and the gambling site can close your accounts with no warning or refund of your deposits, truly this situation has caused all the crises as gambling sites are always accused of scams arising from such incidents. One of the major reasons is the abuse of the bonus system. This is said to be the creation of multiple accounts with the intent to repeatedly claim bonuses on them.

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Quote from: Stalker22 on October 02, 2021, 08:13:53 PM

One might wonder why anyone would ever need to open more than one account at an online casino? After all, it's not very practical for a single user, right?
In my opinion, creating more than one account at an online casino is usually used to take advantage of promotions and bonuses, so it is understandable why casinos don't allow it.

While I agree to what you have said, but there still a brain to detect why user may have multiple accounts. So for example I’d ban those who have connected accounts and withdraw bonuses from tips / bonuses / faucets /... Etc (which are usually exterme small amounts) , but shouldn’t ban the user that have deposited thousands of dollars and wagared just because he is connected with XXXX and XXXX and XXXX. So the idea is W.T.F. they have earned or spammed with these accounts? In addition I don’t know what are the promotions that gives free money now.

Anyway, my point was : If TOS says no multi account. Why does it say so?
- So it says that to prevent spammers from abusing the bonuses and free money systems.

It has nothing to do with a user that deposits and withdraw even if have 100 accounts. In addition if he is a regular user, they should see activity on the other accounts as well. It could be a lost account and many more possibilities. Some users even say they don’t have connection with these accounts which extreme weird to me. - WTF the value of these accounts to cause the casino ban it? Did they earn million of dollars through spamming the bonuses ? -

It doesn't matter if one account deposit hundred of dollars and one thousand dollars the fact that he breaks the rule of having
multiple accounts, it's not the obligation of the gambling operator of cleaning up your mess or picking the right account, if you lose your account you can always recover it by getting the help of support when it comes to investing or putting money in any project you have to follow what the developers implementing, they want to be fair to all users, they don't want anyone posting that he has multiple accounts and violating the rules and getting away with it.

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The point about the poker is a good one or any other multiple player game would be enough reason. Also there are often referrals to consider and tipping allows transfers between players also which can be some way to get around other rules designed to only allow one bonus per player and so on. If its in the rules I wouldn't want to risk such a rule break lightly, sometimes its possible to ask their old account is cancelled.

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One of the others... it is a referral system that is often provided by the casino site, but it's just that it is forbidden to chat in chat rooms using more than one account, usually this happens for sites that provide rain on chat. It's actually impossible to harm their site because many other gamblers make deposits and betting, but this will trigger other users to have the same initiation so that more and more users do not make deposits ever, only using free crypto from the chat room, which gives a bad impact for that site. And in a long time will make the site quiet from the people who make deposits and interest to gamble for a long time in it.

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For gambling operators, it's hard to manage big numbers of users when the majority of these are fake or multiple accounts so in case you want to give a bonus if you have a big event you will check who among users are multiple accounts, so it's better to implement this rule right away when a user is signing up, for a user assume that majority of casinos do not accept multiple accounts because of this obvious reason so don't try to cheat.

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Mostly to avoid the rewards and bonuses to any particular person with multiple accounts this is being done. Beyond this there are platforms were it is very transparent to see people having multiple accounts and benefitting good out of it. Also no actions were taken just because they're high rollers. I saw an user who has the names with the number 1,2,3 added at the end. Also two of this accounts were on the top during a race. Everyone knew it is multiple account, but they secured good position on the race and were rewarded.

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The answer is simple, there are users that abuse the offers the casino provides and if you are caught cheating their system they have the system in place to catch them. I am playing in multiple casinos for years and i never had any issues with any of the casinos because i do not take advantage of their system nor interested in taking their freebies if i use another account to gamble.

Majority of the casino system only flags you if you are taking advantage of their system and then win big amounts and if that is the case they will flag your account and may not allow you to withdraw the coins.

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