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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on February 01, 2022, 04:11:36 AM

Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on February 01, 2022, 03:32:16 AM

Best option for the newbies is to go with options 2

It is also important to consider that a simply copied post with a provided link, but without their own comments, many moderators agree to accept it as a low-quality post. I have reported a few, and if the discussion does not continue, then such posts are simply deleted.

That's understandable and acceptable but from the topic at hand we're looking at the best way to present a discussion that isn't of your original thoughts without been guilty of plagiarized. Irrespective of how the thought is presented from the four options above, I would delete any that doesn't have a continuous discussions as they all can be considered low quality posts. What give them some content is when they're other valuable discussion developing as users pick interest in the topic.

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Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on February 01, 2022, 03:32:16 AM

Best option for the newbies is to go with options 2

It is also important to consider that a simply copied post with a provided link, but without their own comments, many moderators agree to accept it as a low-quality post. I have reported a few, and if the discussion does not continue, then such posts are simply deleted.

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Best option for the newbies is to go with options 2 and most preferably it should be at the beginning of your thread if you'll be copying majority of the article. I'm sure people will appreciate you letting them know the post they're about reading isn't yours. Putting it at the very end after a long post of copied article would send the wrong signal as that's what majority of the activity/merit hunters do and you'll be looking like one.

The first option isn't that easy to execute especially for newbies who aren't used to how the feature of the forum work, I know it took me something before I could perfect it, it got some to point I have to quote reply a post then edit before I could get the right format to used. Just as others have said, the third and last option shoudn't be considered unless you're writing an original post and what to link some articles outside the forum to stress your point or for more insight on what you're writing.

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I spoke with the moderators and they have a different opinion on this matter.

So what we should call this, an opinionated rule?
Plagiarism is a hot topic in this forum or even the most reasons why mods have huge work load banning and unbanning users, if I'm not wrong theymos even have special number of days to ban a user that plagiarised depends on their contribution in the past, yet it all depends on the mod who handle the report.
Why mods don't make specific rule about plagiarism, how source is cited, the dos and donts.

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It's annoying enough to copy an entire post verbatim and just add a link to the source, so at least if you're going to do that, then a user should try as much as possible to make the link very visible for all to see, 1 and 2 is obviously good and a great way to clearly distance yourself from the authorship of a copied work. But as for option 3, it can only be suitable when you're not copying the entire text verbatim, prolly you read a text and you want to put it in your own words, you can sew the link to the original source you got your ideas from in that way and it wouldn't be so obnoxious or even considered as plagiarism. As for 4, I wouldn't just use it.

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I spoke with the moderators and they have a different opinion on this matter. This is just your subjective assessment. There are even those on the forum who believe that plagiarism is when a link is at the end of the text, and not at the beginning. In any case, if you find posts like option 3 and try to report plagiarism, you will be ignored.

Not plagiarism, but not making sense and not professional, so far you included the link like that in the 3rd one, you should write it in your own way, not copy/paste the external source content. This is done like when bringing up a thread that you want people to comment to what you think or something. Example, like gossips on YouTube that someone can bring up what happened in an event and asking what did people think about it.

It is not about what moderators think about it only, it also has to be done professionally.

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I think you shouldn't play around like that and tempt the moderators. If someone finds plagiarism with such a link, you just need to report it, with a visible link to the source. You should not create inconvenience for verification, and the one who decides to "joke" like this and hide links should be punished, and after that think whether it was worth appropriating and hiding other people's texts.

I can see how the moderators handle reports in the ban thread. If there is solid evidence, for which you do not need to climb into a separate topic, accounts are blocked instantly. The same is true with plagiarism. If you don't want to be banned, provide a visible link.

On the other hand, mk4 recently complained about a post that had a hidden link (for safety I will not show the link) And the account was banned.

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Quote from: Symmetrick on February 01, 2022, 02:15:22 AM

1 design option:

Quote from: https://cointelegraph.com/news/el-salvador-president-predicts-gigantic-price-increase-for-bitcoin

Salvadoran President Nayib Bukele made yet another bullish Bitcoin (BTC) prediction soon after the International Monetary Fund had urged his government to remove Bitcoin’s status as legal tender.

Bukele took to Twitter on Monday to predict that Bitcoin will ultimately see a “gigantic price increase” due to its limited supply of only 21 million digital coins.

The president cited Bitcoin’s scarcity case, emphasizing there are “more than 50 million millionaires” in the world, and there is not enough Bitcoin if each one of them wanted to own at least 1 BTC.

So far it is a quote from Cointelegraph, it is not bad to quote it. This is the most appropriate as the link is included, you can continue with your own opinions or writings. Just like Mr A said and I quote. It is the most appropriate because it was copied words for words from another source.

Or just put it in your own way off hand without copying/pasting it from external source, then quote is not necessary but only include the link for authenticity of your post.

These above are the two I preferred.

The 2 is not bad either but 1 is the best. I can never use 2, it is a way some people might later modify how they include link in a way that is irritating.

3 needs to be writing in you own way if the link is like that.

The 4th is not plagiarism but looking unattractive.

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3 and 4 is plagiarism no matter how they insert the source url in the content. Those are not how you cite and credit someone or something as the source of the copied paraphrase or sentence. Not unless he wants to credit or give source is the image itself in #4.
As a poster here or any social media website, why complicate things if your purpose is to credit the author or website?

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