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legendary
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July 08, 2022, 09:58:26 AM
#52
but Hoping that this is not another trap before the true dumping happens any time this year.

While I cannot complain, since the price is not like in (my) worse scenario (under 10k), it still can go lower in the next few months. So being wary is important.
I've read today something that I don't know how accurate it is, but it's certainly a possible scenario:

This is what I think how price might move in upcoming months:
17.5k -> 28k -> 15k -> 19k -> 12.5k
12.5k > 22k -> 28k -> 45k

ATH to be near $180k once we start the bull run after Bitcoin Halving in April/May 2024.
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July 08, 2022, 04:17:19 AM
#51
we have stepped at second half of the year and we are already in the second week, so anything may come from here now.

and starting the 1st day of the second week shows another green market, Bitcoin and most currencies increase 2 digits and this is a great showing of power from the investors .

but Hoping that this is not another trap before the true dumping happens any time this year.
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July 08, 2022, 03:33:51 AM
#50
Bitcoin first half of 2022 ended in disappointment and complaints came from many people who expected the Bitcoin price to break above $40k. Of course the people who complained about the condition of Bitcoin in the first half were those who could not hold this valuable asset. Instead of holding back, they actually sell because of negative whispers.
In addition to negative whispers from other people that can make everyone's spirit panic and change in a very short time, I think some of them also sell because they need money even though the fear of loss still haunts them every time when they see the market that has not changed before second half of this year.

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Just like you, my hope in the second half of 2022 will not have to reach the new ATH. At least in the second half of this year, Bitcoin can return to a point that is better than the conditions in the first half. Based on the experience I've had, the movement of the graph will change after increasing and will return to the bottom. I firmly believe Bitcoin's new ATH will be reached once these perceived bad market conditions are over.
If you look at the Bitcoin price chart now, there has been a change from the $18k price range to the $22k price range in the market and that is a sign that Bitcoin will still increase this year. I personally also hope that Bitcoin can be in the price of $50k by the end of this year or before next year.
Let's hope it will come true as I see that there is a possibility it could return to the $22k price tag again.
Now the bitcoin price has touched the price of $21.8k and there is still a little bit to go to $22k and hopefully, it doesn't stop at that price but can continue to rise.
If bitcoin can get back to $50k before the end of the year or next year, it will be a treat for us, especially those who bought a lot of bitcoins at $18k a while ago.
But bitcoin has a long way to go and we don't know what's next.
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July 08, 2022, 02:51:46 AM
#49
I think everyone waiting for lower bitcoin prices are going to end up bag holders.
My 2cts
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July 08, 2022, 02:49:51 AM
#48
Bitcoin first half of 2022 ended in disappointment and complaints came from many people who expected the Bitcoin price to break above $40k. Of course the people who complained about the condition of Bitcoin in the first half were those who could not hold this valuable asset. Instead of holding back, they actually sell because of negative whispers.
In addition to negative whispers from other people that can make everyone's spirit panic and change in a very short time, I think some of them also sell because they need money even though the fear of loss still haunts them every time when they see the market that has not changed before second half of this year.

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Just like you, my hope in the second half of 2022 will not have to reach the new ATH. At least in the second half of this year, Bitcoin can return to a point that is better than the conditions in the first half. Based on the experience I've had, the movement of the graph will change after increasing and will return to the bottom. I firmly believe Bitcoin's new ATH will be reached once these perceived bad market conditions are over.
If you look at the Bitcoin price chart now, there has been a change from the $18k price range to the $22k price range in the market and that is a sign that Bitcoin will still increase this year. I personally also hope that Bitcoin can be in the price of $50k by the end of this year or before next year.
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July 08, 2022, 02:33:22 AM
#47
I am of the same opinion. I think this cycle, as far as good things go, is over and we won't break $69k again until the next one. And while I don't rule out that we may test new lows, I think it's unlikely. In the second half of the year I don't rule out what you say, that we will go up to $50k and stay in a $30-$50k range, but it will depend on many things, the evolution of the war, energy policies, if the Fed decides to give some liquidity again before the mid-term elections. If the general situation improves I think we will be in the upper part of the range, if everything goes worse I think we will move most of the time in levels below $30k and maybe testing new lows.
It's hard to say about ATH in the second half of 2022 while $40K is always possible to achievable. I think the market is not just working to grow and could still fall at any time. The probability of the market falling may be greater than the probability of growing, but it is always difficult to be sure even if one can make an analysis. I think the highs during the second half will be around $30K - $40K, but it is possible to see bitcoin retest its lows around $10K - $12K before the end of the year.
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July 08, 2022, 01:41:12 AM
#46
Personally, I do not expect a new ATH in the second half of the year, but there is still a chance to return to 40-50k this year. I also expect a red annual candle, since according to the theory of cyclicality, 2022 is a year of decline, after a year of growth and a new ATH, that is, the price will close on December 31 below $45,600.

I am of the same opinion. I think this cycle, as far as good things go, is over and we won't break $69k again until the next one. And while I don't rule out that we may test new lows, I think it's unlikely. In the second half of the year I don't rule out what you say, that we will go up to $50k and stay in a $30-$50k range, but it will depend on many things, the evolution of the war, energy policies, if the Fed decides to give some liquidity again before the mid-term elections. If the general situation improves I think we will be in the upper part of the range, if everything goes worse I think we will move most of the time in levels below $30k and maybe testing new lows.

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July 07, 2022, 11:28:11 PM
#45
Bitcoin first half of 2022 ended in disappointment and complaints came from many people who expected the Bitcoin price to break above $40k. Of course the people who complained about the condition of Bitcoin in the first half were those who could not hold this valuable asset. Instead of holding back, they actually sell because of negative whispers.

Just like you, my hope in the second half of 2022 will not have to reach the new ATH. At least in the second half of this year, Bitcoin can return to a point that is better than the conditions in the first half. Based on the experience I've had, the movement of the graph will change after increasing and will return to the bottom. I firmly believe Bitcoin's new ATH will be reached once these perceived bad market conditions are over.

Stopping at over $35K in December 2022 is good enough in my opinion.
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June 15, 2022, 10:18:40 PM
#44
Inflation that occurs in almost all countries makes crypto users shift assets. After the bitcoin price drops more than 34% within 5 days then I will not make a high target of bitcoin, maybe the highest price that can be achieved is $50k, and it may take a long time or at least 2 more years to be able to make new ATH.
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June 15, 2022, 10:17:22 PM
#43
The world situation is less stable and according to Mr. Powell's statement, the Fed will not stop raising interest rates until they see real inflation come down. This statement means that high-risk assets like stocks and cryptocurrencies will remain under a lot of pressure this year.

So the expectation of a new ATH at the end of the year is pretty far-fetched, personally I just hope bitcoin doesn't fall as deep as $9k, $10k. My expectation bitcoin will hit 40k by end november early december this year.
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June 15, 2022, 09:48:36 PM
#42
So, back to what you wrote in topic: if we get back to 40-50k this year... it'll be a surprisingly nice development.

This will be the recovery period that is needed now, and I also expect just such price values. If we recall the crypto winter of 2018 and ATH $20,000, then after falling by 85%, Bitcoin rose to $14,000, recovering ~ 70% of its price. Falls, like growth, cannot be eternal and a rebound will still occur, even if we plunge even deeper. But in my opinion, the fall to such extreme values ​​is still too early or the industry has become more rapid. There is also an opinion that we will hang out in the range of $10-50k for the next 2 years, and only then we will have a real bull run and new ATH.

Of course it will take more time to wait for a new ATH in a few more years.
But are they also able to be patient for some time to come?
Because I see many of them who want to run away with the current situation and it will make them regret that they have left the current market situation.
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June 15, 2022, 09:21:50 PM
#41
talk has started on a July tighter by the fed. As we approach July 15 if we have a high inflation rate the talk will say .75 looks like the goal. maybe .5 or maybe 1.0 If it is July 5 and that
is the talk about the fed btc will drop under 20k.

I reset my coin holdings. I increased all my btc and sold my shit coins. I also have cash and will buy more when we go under 20k. Going under 20k seems pretty certain. Only Putin dying and Russia ending its war with the Ukraine will stop inflation which is very unlikely.
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June 15, 2022, 09:13:54 PM
#40
A big part of the downturn in BTC's price is that liquidity is being sucked out of the system to an extent even larger than is generally realized. The world is starved for liquidity. I expected a crash like this:

I'm bearish for the first half of the year because most of the world is transitioning from unprecedentedly easy money to, relatively, extremely tight money, and crypto feeds off of easy money more than anything. People talk a lot about interest rates, but it's that plus slowing growth, much lower government spending, and rapidly ending QE. Worldwide, the brakes have already been slammed on the economy, but people haven't quite realized it yet. I think that sometime in the first half of the year all liquid assets including BTC are likely to fall off a cliff. It then might quickly recover within days, or this might lead to a frenzy of panic selling which lasts a couple of months. I think that this crash will be an excellent time to buy, though, and we could see ATHs toward the end of the year.

My record of price predictions isn't great, and so I don't personally make large bets based on my price outlook. My prediction above will definitively be wrong if we get to July without a major crash, or if interest rates peak and then start to constantly fall without a crash in liquid assets.

When central banks add liquidity, they add bad liquidity. It gets thrown at useless things like wasteful government projects and zombie companies. But even with rates at 0%, credit is still either completely unavailable or very expensive to disfavored industries, people without the right connections, people in disfavored countries, most projects without collateral, etc. If you had some great business idea, do you think that you could get a big loan for it? The lack of good liquidity is a form of tightness which has been strangling the world economy. So when central banks and governments stop doing incredibly-loose things like sending people checks and start mildly tightening monetary policy, we get tightness on top of existing tightness. The world can't handle it.

Crypto is one possible solution to the liquidity crisis, since it offers a form of liquidity that's available to those that are excluded from the USD system (eg. El Salvador). I haven't personally experimented much with DeFi stuff, and I think that 90% of it is probably a scam, but this area has major potential vis-à-vis the liquidity issue, and BTC is the best monetary base for a DeFi monetary system. This can add the "good" liquidity that the world is starved for, having been fed only central banks' "bad" liquidity for years.

The recent crash is basically what I expected: a liquidity crisis causing almost every liquid asset on Earth to crash. But I expected it to be worse, and in fact I expected it to be so bad that it would cause the Fed to stop tightening. This crash wasn't nearly bad enough to make them hesitate, especially with inflation so high (higher than I expected in January). I suspect that we'll get one or more additional rounds of liquidity-crisis selling like this, though I'm not sure.

If things get so bad that the Fed stops tightening, that's good for BTC because BTC feeds on easy money. But if the Fed is seriously going to let rates go up several more percentage points, then BTC probably has a lot more to fall. We'd have to eliminate the portion of the price which comes from easy money and FOMO-buyers before rising on other fundamental strengths. In that case, I'd expect BTC to keep falling until monetary policy becomes restrictive across the board (ie. rates +/- other effects such as the balance sheet put us above the neutral rate, in nearly every sector and situation). After that point, I'd guess that further rate increases would not be particularly harmful to BTC, and could in fact help BTC. In other words, even if the Fed keeps tightening, I think that BTC can still perform well, eventually.

At the moment, my base case for the second half is that the liquidity crisis builds to such an extent and causes so much pain that the Fed seizes on some excuse such as a deceleration in CPI (but still staying very high), and they stop tightening. This will be bullish for BTC in several respects: easy money will flow into BTC, the Fed's failure and increasing financial repression will undermine the USD, inflation will boost the "BTC as an inflation hedge" narrative (even though it hasn't actually worked recently), and BTC+DeFi as a new global monetary system will emerge as a solution to a major problem. ATHs are still possible this year, but probably more likely is a drop even lower from here (to just under $10k, perhaps?) and then an increase toward the end of the year back to the $30-40k area.

As always, note that my record of predictions is not very good, and I don't personally make large bets based on them if I can avoid it.
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June 15, 2022, 05:21:05 PM
#39
I always tend to see Bitcoin losing values in summer and getting it back and even more by the end of the year but this doesn't happen lately the way it used to be.
This summer was the worst obviously but it will give a chance to a nice recovery by Q4 of the year.
I am not very optimistic this year with all economical struggles but finishing 2022 with $40k would be a good start for the next year..
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June 15, 2022, 04:27:23 PM
#38
In this winter, we have already lost 70% of the value. I also read opinions that this time the correction will not exceed 55% and will stop at around 28-30k

Yep, this is what I was talking about.
Now I pretty much fear that the price may fall like in the previous cycles, i.e. losing ~85% of the value.  That would mean falling to 10-12k, so 50% of current value. I really hope I'm wrong...

So, back to what you wrote in topic: if we get back to 40-50k this year... it'll be a surprisingly nice development.
There’s a lot of possible scenario for Bitcoin in the last months for this year, if the support level stays strong at the level of $20k, we might not be able to see another drop but of course this is a very unpredictable situation with Bitcoin and most of the analysis has been invalidated. The support level is very crucial, many will surely panic if ever we go down again. Recovery this year is still possible, we know Bitcoin works like this before and able to rise, I’m confident again with this one. Buying can be a good strategy for now, just timing the market.
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June 15, 2022, 04:14:14 PM
#37
I don't really see much prospect for Bitcoin or any cryptocurrency for that matter for the second half of the year as the global economic situation is depreciating. Many countries that the major whales below to are currently facing some challenges. And with the red candlesticks portrayed on exchanges, I would say getting a new ATH in the second half is seemingly impossible. (I stand to be corrected though) lol.

i will start to say that Bitcoin is not a world economic buster, that is how some people derivative analysis come to. Because if you search from the beginning coming close to the end, you will understand that bitcoin is not something that every country is aware of or something every countries welcomed, making it's depreciation as one of the things that depreciates the economy or economic status of other countries that does not value it and also be aware of it, is something I'm getting wrong to understand.
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June 15, 2022, 02:53:10 PM
#36
In this winter, we have already lost 70% of the value. I also read opinions that this time the correction will not exceed 55% and will stop at around 28-30k

Yep, this is what I was talking about.
Now I pretty much fear that the price may fall like in the previous cycles, i.e. losing ~85% of the value.  That would mean falling to 10-12k, so 50% of current value. I really hope I'm wrong...

So, back to what you wrote in topic: if we get back to 40-50k this year... it'll be a surprisingly nice development.
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June 15, 2022, 02:32:57 PM
#35
We hoped that crypto winter will not come this time, but it came.

Who are "we? It’s impossible without a crypto winter

I am sure that this latest plunge has caught many off-guard. Wink

However, I've done some effort and found one of the discussions on this topic I had in the past, discussions that maybe we have this year a softer (if any) crypto winter.
One of the posts is this one, but you can easily look up there for the entire discussion on the matter.

The point there was that - because of the institutional investors and maybe too because Bitcoin markets become more mature with every passing year - the highs should no longer be so spectacular, and the lows too should no longer be so depressing. So one idea was back then that maybe what was in April was a weak crypto winter (more like an autumn than a winter) and maybe in the next cycles it'll be even softer.
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June 15, 2022, 02:27:13 AM
#34
Now there is an active phase of washing out even the strongest hands.

We hoped that crypto winter will not come this time, but it came. Of course strong hands are also affected. Maybe some did their math and expect 7x fall like in the previous cycle. Then they can sell now 1 BTC and buy 2 BTC in the near future (unless the reality won't go by their math  Cheesy ).

However, I don't think I've seen fear index so low. We're at 7 today.
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June 12, 2022, 10:50:29 PM
#33
Well i guess I was wrong I figured it would trade sideways or at least make it to the low $30Ks however it broke the yearly low just now.

It seems with the massive CPI and the mess with Celcius network, many people are panicking and just exiting crypto all together. Many people think are recession is near so they want to cash out with what remaining money they have. Scary times are coming.
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