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legendary
Activity: 2632
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Yes, I'm an asshole
November 18, 2023, 12:30:35 PM
#16
@holydarkness, It is better to ignore him. He will always come with a reply from his psycho thoughts about Blackjack.fun.

I appreciate the very sound advise, but... sometimes things need to be straightened before things get ugly.

[...] And I'm wondering why he is unable to post the deposit tx id. The tx id can be easily found in the wallet or any other service from where the deposit was made.

I believe that's due to what sujonali1819 has explained, that OP did not deposit anything and got his winning from... bonus and [I'm not sure I understand this part correctly] campaign payment? I think he refers to some tipping, and the likes?



in short you are totally wrong with this statement. you should start to take some fair glasses and try to walk in the scammed user shoes

Which part of my statement is wrong, if I may ask for clarification before I said anything further?



[...]

Bro... Nothing serious. Information = I meant a story. Like how some guys are abusing bonuses with alts. So The representative also shared this story a day ago. Smiley
As a third party, I don't have any right to see any sensitive information. And I believe no team will share any sensitive issue with a third party.

Ahh... ok.

Btw I will not make any other comment here. It looks like the thread is being hijacked Smiley. This is not good. Better to ignore.

Before you leave, I've reached to Blackjack.fun's represenative through PM and inform them about this issue, but suppose they're not answering, do you mind if I reach you to be a Hedwig, relay some messages and urge them to come?
legendary
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November 18, 2023, 12:26:33 PM
#15

Now, a separate issue, the fact that they... share some information with you, it's not clear whether the data they share are "merely" IP address, emails, and the likes, or something more serious like the KYC documents, I hope it's nothing sensitive, although even so, I am not sure if it's a good idea, for a company to share such a private matter with a third party.


Bro... Nothing serious. Information = I meant a story. Like how some guys are abusing bonuses with alts. So The representative also shared this story a day ago. Smiley
As a third party, I don't have any right to see any sensitive information. And I believe no team will share any sensitive issue with a third party.

Btw I will not make any other comment here. It looks like the thread is being hijacked Smiley. This is not good. Better to ignore.
legendary
Activity: 1974
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All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
November 18, 2023, 12:23:06 PM
#14
[...]

Recently we have seen there are lot of scam accusations against popular casinos with brand new/ newbie accounts. They are using Bitcointalk as weapons. and some guys always think The project is guilty most of the time and support the scam accusation creator. But as I can say from my experience basically the popular platform does not go against their user if there is no guilt from the user end.

If we continuously support the guys (who are using bitcointalk as weapons despite their own guilt), the New projects will not come to promote them here in this forum. Already I heard due to spam scam accusations some projects stopped their journey here. We should always give fair justice. Smiley
[...]

Rest assured that we always tried to give it here, like repetitively mentioned by members who frequently overseeing cases on this section, "this board runs on evidence", so as long as every side give their piece and backed with a fact, we don't judge with prejudice [well... most of the times, LOL].

This is also why I invited Blackjack.fun's representative here, I'd like to know how sure they are with the accusation. When they come here, I am intending to inquire if they're sure with their data. As OP already submitted his KYC, it'll be easy to be sure if he's indeed multiacc-ing by matching his documents with the database.

Now, a separate issue, the fact that they... share some information with you, it's not clear whether the data they share are "merely" IP address, emails, and the likes, or something more serious like the KYC documents, I hope it's nothing sensitive, although even so, I am not sure if it's a good idea, for a company to share such a private matter with a third party.



[...]
who knows maybe you are an alias of Blackjack.fun owner here on bitcointalk! [...]


He's not. Sujon is a campaign manager, I don't think he has any interest to create a casino platform, and if he does, I think he'll have better chance of promoting it by directly saying it's his platform instead of using "alt account", since he's a somewhat established member of this forum. I know you're pissed, but stop seeing red everywhere, all the time, if you can.

in short you are totally wrong with this statement. you should start to take some fair glasses and try to walk in the scammed user shoes
legendary
Activity: 1946
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In Search of Incredible
November 18, 2023, 12:15:21 PM
#13
do you mean i do kyc for many account?
No, I didn't mean that.

@holydarkness, It is better to ignore him. He will always come with a reply from his psycho thoughts about Blackjack.fun.

If we continuously support the guys (who are using bitcointalk as weapons despite their own guilt), the New projects will not come to promote them here in this forum. Already I heard due to spam scam accusations some projects stopped their journey here. We should always give fair justice.
Some casinos have created a negative impression on the forum by not replying to the accusations in a timely manner. The forum member doesn't go against the casinos usually. Most of us want to get an explanation from the casino side when someone creates an accusation with enough evidences. The OP hasn't provided enough evidences here, except the email logs. And I'm wondering why he is unable to post the deposit tx id. The tx id can be easily found in the wallet or any other service from where the deposit was made.
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1462
Yes, I'm an asshole
November 18, 2023, 12:07:39 PM
#12
[...]

Recently we have seen there are lot of scam accusations against popular casinos with brand new/ newbie accounts. They are using Bitcointalk as weapons. and some guys always think The project is guilty most of the time and support the scam accusation creator. But as I can say from my experience basically the popular platform does not go against their user if there is no guilt from the user end.

If we continuously support the guys (who are using bitcointalk as weapons despite their own guilt), the New projects will not come to promote them here in this forum. Already I heard due to spam scam accusations some projects stopped their journey here. We should always give fair justice. Smiley
[...]

Rest assured that we always tried to give it here, like repetitively mentioned by members who frequently overseeing cases on this section, "this board runs on evidence", so as long as every side give their piece and backed with a fact, we don't judge with prejudice [well... most of the times, LOL].

This is also why I invited Blackjack.fun's representative here, I'd like to know how sure they are with the accusation. When they come here, I am intending to inquire if they're sure with their data. As OP already submitted his KYC, it'll be easy to be sure if he's indeed multiacc-ing by matching his documents with the database.

Now, a separate issue, the fact that they... share some information with you, it's not clear whether the data they share are "merely" IP address, emails, and the likes, or something more serious like the KYC documents, I hope it's nothing sensitive, although even so, I am not sure if it's a good idea, for a company to share such a private matter with a third party.



[...]
who knows maybe you are an alias of Blackjack.fun owner here on bitcointalk! [...]


He's not. Sujon is a campaign manager, I don't think he has any interest to create a casino platform, and if he does, I think he'll have better chance of promoting it by directly saying it's his platform instead of using "alt account", since he's a somewhat established member of this forum. I know you're pissed, but stop seeing red everywhere, all the time, if you can.
legendary
Activity: 1974
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November 18, 2023, 12:04:10 PM
#11

who knows maybe you are an alias of Blackjack.fun owner here on bitcointalk! why should he show you such internal details?

did he show you how many accounts I have on Blackjack.Fun?


Sujonali is working with Blackjack.fun for forum promotion. He is a forum member here and not an alt account of Blackjack.fun owner. He will not gonna lie on his statement since he has nothing to gain on it if he is backing a scammer because his reputation is on the line.

Funny thing was most of the issue against Blackjack.fun is from the free tournament/giveaway which user doesn’t risk a penny from their own pocket. The bravery of filing a scam accusation for a money that came from free drop is hilarious.  Cheesy

thanks for your bullshitting posting and showing your signature. you are talking about free rolls  Huh you are stealing by using your signature with bullshit postings like this. I will report it tor signature manager.

how do you know that @Sujonali is not an alias of BJ fun owner? how can you be so sure? any insights we are missing. I would like to know for sure.

free rolls are kind of advertisement casino owners are offering. so you wanna tell me that the players participating in free rolls should be ashamed asking any winnings  Huh in what kind of world are you living? please spare us your postings and signature   as the campaign manager and the Duelbits cannot be proud of this and actually you are stealing from them each time you are showing the signature with such a terrible posting.

BTW Duelbits is for me legit, just for info

hero member
Activity: 2954
Merit: 796
November 18, 2023, 11:35:33 AM
#10

who knows maybe you are an alias of Blackjack.fun owner here on bitcointalk! why should he show you such internal details?

did he show you how many accounts I have on Blackjack.Fun?


Sujonali is working with Blackjack.fun for forum promotion. He is a forum member here and not an alt account of Blackjack.fun owner. He will not gonna lie on his statement since he has nothing to gain on it if he is backing a scammer because his reputation is on the line.

Funny thing was most of the issue against Blackjack.fun is from the free tournament/giveaway which user doesn’t risk a penny from their own pocket. The bravery of filing a scam accusation for a money that came from free drop is hilarious.  Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 1974
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November 18, 2023, 11:17:49 AM
#9
[...]

I'm neither accusing you, nor taking the side of the casino yet. I just answered your questions. I have sent them an email about it.

very strange that yo are taking side of the Blackjack.fun Scammer. are you maybe partner of family?

[...]

Please read his post wholly, he explicitly said that he's simply answered the question, and if he hadn't already, I'll probably post something similar, explaining the best we can to OP why something happened as per our knowledge.



OP, I'm going to send blackjack.fun's representative and invite them here, please have some patience and wait for them to come back online. Meanwhile, we're sure you're accessing the account from your own IP [not some public hotspot, internet cafe, or the likes] and you're not using VPN?

I read it and understood it very well but that does not mean that it is obvious that he is defending a Scammer also in my scam accusation thread

yeah everyone is a liar just Blackjack.fun owner not. get real guys

and @electronicash

saying - not to discredit your claim but for 117USD balckjack will do that?

are you joking? just do the math! there are many more Blackjack.fun scammed and stealing their money



Hi, OP maybe you are ovum in blackjack.fun, right? If so then I am aware of it from the blackjack.fun team. They showed me some info like how many accounts are connected with this user. Yes as I have seen the system detected several accounts are connected with this user. Not actually several, maybe it was more than 10 accounts.

Now you guys can tell me that their system could be wrong, Then I have to share some more info that they showed me a few months ago. One of the users has also the issue of multiple accounts. The user asked to close all the alt accounts and keep the one that he was talking with. Then the team asks for all the emails/usernames of his alts. The user shared all the account information he created, and all of them were detected as multiple accounts on their system. So If you say straight about the system doing wrong then it would not be perfect I assume. Maybe the user used a VPN or public wifi at some point then the IP could be matched. But who knows!

In this modern world by using only VPN if someone feels no one can catch the connections, it's really funny.

Btw OP you are saying that they are a scam, But they shared with me that you never make any deposit with USDT, But you already withdrew more than 250 USDT (without USDT deposit), Right? Where did this come from? Of course from their giveaways and some other free money campaigns, right?

Recently we have seen there are lot of scam accusations against popular casinos with brand new/ newbie accounts. They are using Bitcointalk as weapons. and some guys always think The project is guilty most of the time and support the scam accusation creator. But as I can say from my experience basically the popular platform does not go against their user if there is no guilt from the user end.

If we continuously support the guys (who are using bitcointalk as weapons despite their own guilt), the New projects will not come to promote them here in this forum. Already I heard due to spam scam accusations some projects stopped their journey here. We should always give fair justice. Smiley


Note: Someone could have a question why blackjack.fun shared the info with me, I was their signature campaign manager from the beginning and still run some campaigns in games and rounds. So they always try to notify me if there are some cases like this.

btw I will ask the blackjack.fun team to check this issue again and solve this issue ASAP. Thank you.


who knows maybe you are an alias of Blackjack.fun owner here on bitcointalk! why should he show you such internal details?

did he show you how many accounts I have on Blackjack.Fun?

why he or you are not showing proof of the license he claims to have? should be easy if he has one! and would be very convincing that he is legit.

I am sorry, but maybe I am stupid, but what does it make sense to have more than 10 accounts on the Blackjack.fun site?

do you have balls and post in Blackjack.fun chat the addresses of the 2 scam accusations here and lets see if there are more scam accusations come up here or none. if you both to you are one have nothing to fear you would do it

BTW Ovum was a nice player to play against, would have been more fun without so many not fixed bugs


legendary
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November 18, 2023, 11:15:57 AM
#8
Hi, OP maybe you are ovum in blackjack.fun, right? If so then I am aware of it from the blackjack.fun team. They showed me some info like how many accounts are connected with this user. Yes as I have seen the system detected several accounts are connected with this user. Not actually several, maybe it was more than 10 accounts.

Now you guys can tell me that their system could be wrong, Then I have to share some more info that they showed me a few months ago. One of the users has also the issue of multiple accounts. The user asked to close all the alt accounts and keep the one that he was talking with. Then the team asks for all the emails/usernames of his alts. The user shared all the account information he created, and all of them were detected as multiple accounts on their system. So If you say straight about the system doing wrong then it would not be perfect I assume. Maybe the user used a VPN or public wifi at some point then the IP could be matched. But who knows!

In this modern world by using only VPN if someone feels no one can catch the connections, it's really funny.

Btw OP you are saying that they are a scam, But they shared with me that you never make any deposit with USDT, But you already withdrew more than 250 USDT (without USDT deposit), Right? Where did this come from? Of course from their giveaways and some other free money campaigns, right?

Recently we have seen there are lot of scam accusations against popular casinos with brand new/ newbie accounts. They are using Bitcointalk as weapons. and some guys always think The project is guilty most of the time and support the scam accusation creator. But as I can say from my experience basically the popular platform does not go against their user if there is no guilt from the user end.

If we continuously support the guys (who are using bitcointalk as weapons despite their own guilt), the New projects will not come to promote them here in this forum. Already I heard due to spam scam accusations some projects stopped their journey here. We should always give fair justice. Smiley


Note: Someone could have a question why blackjack.fun shared the info with me, I was their signature campaign manager from the beginning and still run some campaigns in games and rounds. So they always try to notify me if there are some cases like this.

btw I will ask the blackjack.fun team to check this issue again and solve this issue ASAP. Thank you.
legendary
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Yes, I'm an asshole
November 18, 2023, 10:51:22 AM
#7
[...]

I'm neither accusing you, nor taking the side of the casino yet. I just answered your questions. I have sent them an email about it.

very strange that yo are taking side of the Blackjack.fun Scammer. are you maybe partner of family?

[...]

Please read his post wholly, he explicitly said that he's simply answered the question, and if he hadn't already, I'll probably post something similar, explaining the best we can to OP why something happened as per our knowledge.



OP, I'm going to send blackjack.fun's representative and invite them here, please have some patience and wait for them to come back online. Meanwhile, we're sure you're accessing the account from your own IP [not some public hotspot, internet cafe, or the likes] and you're not using VPN?
legendary
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November 18, 2023, 10:45:00 AM
#6

not to discredit your claim but for 117USD balckjack will do that? 
its embarrassing for them. unfortunately we have no means to really see what blackjack is seeing under your account but we have seen enough accounts claiming they did nothing that violates the casino's term and then still get the same treatment from a casino.

scam or not, its just between you and them whos telling the truth.
newbie
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November 18, 2023, 10:27:20 AM
#5
2. Let me make some "IF" if my account was broken of tnc why they not ban me early ?
3. Why I'm allowed to deposit and bettings?
They have banned you when the system found enough evidences to do that. Perhaps, the system was looking for a reason to apply the KYC verification requirement. Blackjack.fun reserves the right to trigger the KYC verification at any time, not related to registration, deposit or withdrawal.

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4. Why they asking me KYC ?
5. Why after I did my KYC they said Im created with multiples account ?
Based on the 'PM/Chat Logs', you have multiple accounts on the casino. Nowadays, every casino ask the user to complete the KYC verification if they suspect that the user has more than one account. The casino have your personal details now. They will be able to easily verify multiple accounts of your by applying the KYC policy if you create more accounts in the near future.

I'm neither accusing you, nor taking the side of the casino yet. I just answered your questions. I have sent them an email about it.
do you mean i do kyc for many account?
what KYC is for?
I was explain. my account is one and they dont believe with last statement only I will keep denial as team said. I will stand with my statement .

I Never create another account. that is writern as awarenessfull.
Asking for solution, please double check.
Blackjack.fun have the money now and my personal data.
legendary
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November 18, 2023, 09:59:47 AM
#4
2. Let me make some "IF" if my account was broken of tnc why they not ban me early ?
3. Why I'm allowed to deposit and bettings?
They have banned you when the system found enough evidences to do that. Perhaps, the system was looking for a reason to apply the KYC verification requirement. Blackjack.fun reserves the right to trigger the KYC verification at any time, not related to registration, deposit or withdrawal.

Quote
4. Why they asking me KYC ?
5. Why after I did my KYC they said Im created with multiples account ?
Based on the 'PM/Chat Logs', you have multiple accounts on the casino. Nowadays, every casino ask the user to complete the KYC verification if they suspect that the user has more than one account. The casino have your personal details now. They will be able to easily verify multiple accounts of your by applying the KYC policy if you create more accounts in the near future.

I'm neither accusing you, nor taking the side of the casino yet. I just answered your questions. I have sent them an email about it.

very strange that yo are taking side of the Blackjack.fun Scammer. are you maybe partner of family?

that is to strange it is time to take down Blackjack.fun form your thread as they don't have proved their valid license and already 2 scam accusations.

they are now even stealing deposited funds!

by the way I saw they canceled the 1 USDT tourneys! guess why that? they pay now 1TRX for the winner LOL

get real
legendary
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In Search of Incredible
November 18, 2023, 09:45:58 AM
#3
2. Let me make some "IF" if my account was broken of tnc why they not ban me early ?
3. Why I'm allowed to deposit and bettings?
They have banned you when the system found enough evidences to do that. Perhaps, the system was looking for a reason to apply the KYC verification requirement. Blackjack.fun reserves the right to trigger the KYC verification at any time, not related to registration, deposit or withdrawal.

Quote
4. Why they asking me KYC ?
5. Why after I did my KYC they said Im created with multiples account ?
Based on the 'PM/Chat Logs', you have multiple accounts on the casino. Nowadays, every casino ask the user to complete the KYC verification if they suspect that the user has more than one account. The casino have your personal details now. They will be able to easily verify multiple accounts of your by applying the KYC policy if you create more accounts in the near future.

I'm neither accusing you, nor taking the side of the casino yet. I just answered your questions. I have sent them an email about it.
legendary
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November 18, 2023, 08:10:50 AM
#2
What happened:
I am quite long for registered belong Blackjack.fun. I am not huge players in short story, I know Blackjack fun has lot quiz, tournament, giveaway, rain and I love it. I just comeback lately then join a long journey with tournament and winning around 40$ and other is TRX from rain and betting. I did deposit and playing with total 117 in, My withdrawal is pending: then they asking me for do some KYC, yes I did. for long day im confused with KYC took so long, I take an action to get help support with Admin Aria and email [email protected] . They said why im create a lot of account? I really confused with that. I am always claim and make statement, please check your system might something went wrong, I never create account rather this one. And final words they blaming as denial to admit, I am believe 100% never create an account.



Scammers Profile Link:https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/blackjackfun-2123378

Reference Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/blackjackfun-2123378 and https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/blackjackfun-up-to-80-rakeback-slotssportsesports-jack-token-5106215  
Amount Scammed: My balance total = 117 in USD
Payment Method: -
Proof of Payment: No longer save deposit tx id
PM/Chat Logs: https://i.postimg.cc/QN6R5mMg/15a69dfb-aacd-4050-8ac3-22859f8db886.jpg
Additional Notes:
1. Sorry for not clearly of language but i do my best.
2. Let me make some "IF" if my account was broken of tnc why they not ban me early ?
3. Why I'm allowed to deposit and bettings?
4. Why they asking me KYC ?
5. Why after I did my KYC they said Im created with multiples account ?
6. I hate for might you will count me as value user to make an opportunities, but I did an oppotunities with good way.
7. You might will be on side company, and might you will believe company as honest.
8. Im trying to said please recheck, they are something wrong as solution.
9. I'm not trying for make blackjack is bad one, but it is just a short story I have belong with blackjack.


I am glad another one came out to tell his story and   am sure there will be more if they would know that there is Bitcointalk forum and scam accusation option against scam game providers.

sadly this OP now is not so good with english but if one wants to understand then he will understand that this poor guy is also scammed for money than me with the difference that he deposited some funds and now he cannot withdraw and won some and got some for playing but did not ask for withdrawal and got KYC

it is time that some users here will try to convince the Blackjack.fun owner that it is always nice to earn money as a casino owner but sometimes you have to pay ypur players if they have bad luck and they win some LOL

I ask again that Blackjack.fun owner will give proof of hos valid license so players can check it and send complaints if needed

@OP I believe you and really hope you get your money

good luck mate
newbie
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November 18, 2023, 07:10:48 AM
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