https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-07/trump-deal-reached-mexico-stem-tide-migration-tariffs-suspended
Are you tired of all this winning yet?
Are you tired of all this winning yet?
Why do I have a feeling the best is yet to come?
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-07/trump-deal-reached-mexico-stem-tide-migration-tariffs-suspended
Are you tired of all this winning yet?
Are you tired of all this winning yet?
^^^ If they can't, they will become another USA State. 
Haha.
Funny considering California was once Mexican. Though it is practically Mexican again now.
Is Mexico even capable of securing its borders? I don't think so, else those people from down south wouldn't have been able to get in in the first place and rampage through Mexico on their way to the US.
There are towns where the government have no control whatsover. Mexico can't even do anything about those or foreigners coming into their country, how can they even control their own people going abroad.
There are towns where the government have no control whatsover. Mexico can't even do anything about those or foreigners coming into their country, how can they even control their own people going abroad.
So the US is trying to extort Mexico into violating international law and human rights?
Any "logical" argument on behalf of this sick plan is irrelevant once the moral one is considered. Human rights are such a nuisance sometimes huh?
Any "logical" argument on behalf of this sick plan is irrelevant once the moral one is considered. Human rights are such a nuisance sometimes huh?
Extorting them into violating human rights lol. Give me a fucking break. Don't let logic or facts get in the way of your bleeding heart Captain Postmodern. Everyone knows empathy is more important than facts, logistics, and logic. Because empathy fills bellies not logistics right?
You are looking at the entire GDP, not just foreign income. I should have specified but I failed to do so. The original premise still stands as this is quite a dependence on the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Mexico#Remittances
A tax on remittances, say 1000% or 5000% would create market distortions that will cause less migrants to want to migrate to the US when the entire family cannot come immediately. Possibly a lot less migrants would even attempt to come to the US illegally, and some already here may leave on their own. A remittance tax may also pay for a border wall
Can anyone see the downside of this against the general populace of the American people?
This is not risk free to America. Prices of some goods will go up. Instead of addressing the migration issue, the Mexico government may issue retaliatory tariffs on US goods. The Mexican government is very corrupt, and does not care about its people the same way an American President should. The Mexican government has also dumped many of its problems into the US over many decades.
Mexico is not in any position to make demands from the USA. Its primary income is from remittances from workers in the USA. All the USA would have to do is put its foot on that hose of money and they would choke.
A tax on Remittances would slow the inflow of migrants into the US because migrants would be unable to send many times the local wage back home to support their families.
You are looking at the entire GDP, not just foreign income. I should have specified but I failed to do so. The original premise still stands as this is quite a dependence on the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Mexico#Remittances
Can anyone see the downside of this against the general populace of the American people?
This is not risk free to America. Prices of some goods will go up. Instead of addressing the migration issue, the Mexico government may issue retaliatory tariffs on US goods. The Mexican government is very corrupt, and does not care about its people the same way an American President should. The Mexican government has also dumped many of its problems into the US over many decades.
Mexico is not in any position to make demands from the USA. Its primary income is from remittances from workers in the USA. All the USA would have to do is put its foot on that hose of money and they would choke.
A tax on Remittances would slow the inflow of migrants into the US because migrants would be unable to send many times the local wage back home to support their families.
Can anyone see the downside of this against the general populace of the American people?
This is not risk free to America. Prices of some goods will go up. Instead of addressing the migration issue, the Mexico government may issue retaliatory tariffs on US goods. The Mexican government is very corrupt, and does not care about its people the same way an American President should. The Mexican government has also dumped many of its problems into the US over many decades.
Mexico is not in any position to make demands from the USA. Its primary income is from remittances from workers in the USA. All the USA would have to do is put its foot on that hose of money and they would choke.
Can anyone see the downside of this against the general populace of the American people?
This is not risk free to America. Prices of some goods will go up. Instead of addressing the migration issue, the Mexico government may issue retaliatory tariffs on US goods. The Mexican government is very corrupt, and does not care about its people the same way an American President should. The Mexican government has also dumped many of its problems into the US over many decades.
OK, this may hurt Mexico but where else would Americans be getting the cheaper goods? They seem to be also in a trade war with China. Is there any Latin American country that can supply goods that would have come from Mexico?
I think someone should also be helping Mexico fix their borders, they're also being swamped by "immigrants" coming from South America. They also don't seem to have a strong border with Guatemala and Belize.
IMHO America should be doing what China is doing with Southeast Asia - pour investments into most neighbors. Get a stronger foothold on those countries by entangling their economy with yours and raise the standard of living just enough to reduce the number of people trying to go to America.
I think someone should also be helping Mexico fix their borders, they're also being swamped by "immigrants" coming from South America. They also don't seem to have a strong border with Guatemala and Belize.
IMHO America should be doing what China is doing with Southeast Asia - pour investments into most neighbors. Get a stronger foothold on those countries by entangling their economy with yours and raise the standard of living just enough to reduce the number of people trying to go to America.
Cheaper goods means cheap junk. Americans are fed up with junk. Let's bring our companies back home so that they can make good stuff rather than cheap stuff.
And how likely is that? It seems the companies leaving China are just moving to Vietnam for example. But yeah, if Americans didn't wanted cheaper goods, everything could have been produced at home anyway.
So the US is trying to extort Mexico into violating international law and human rights?
Any "logical" argument on behalf of this sick plan is irrelevant once the moral one is considered. Human rights are such a nuisance sometimes huh?
Any "logical" argument on behalf of this sick plan is irrelevant once the moral one is considered. Human rights are such a nuisance sometimes huh?
jeah you've got to have the "cash" to afford human rights that's the true american philosophy.
International law isn't binding on any country except when a country accepts such binbing. It's a farce. Just ask Chad in his Seasteading venture.
Human rights for Americans in America is more important than human rights for Mexicans in America. Let the Mexicans stay home.
OK, this may hurt Mexico but where else would Americans be getting the cheaper goods? They seem to be also in a trade war with China. Is there any Latin American country that can supply goods that would have come from Mexico?
I think someone should also be helping Mexico fix their borders, they're also being swamped by "immigrants" coming from South America. They also don't seem to have a strong border with Guatemala and Belize.
IMHO America should be doing what China is doing with Southeast Asia - pour investments into most neighbors. Get a stronger foothold on those countries by entangling their economy with yours and raise the standard of living just enough to reduce the number of people trying to go to America.
I think someone should also be helping Mexico fix their borders, they're also being swamped by "immigrants" coming from South America. They also don't seem to have a strong border with Guatemala and Belize.
IMHO America should be doing what China is doing with Southeast Asia - pour investments into most neighbors. Get a stronger foothold on those countries by entangling their economy with yours and raise the standard of living just enough to reduce the number of people trying to go to America.
Cheaper goods means cheap junk. Americans are fed up with junk. Let's bring our companies back home so that they can make good stuff rather than cheap stuff.
So the US is trying to extort Mexico into violating international law and human rights?
Any "logical" argument on behalf of this sick plan is irrelevant once the moral one is considered. Human rights are such a nuisance sometimes huh?
Any "logical" argument on behalf of this sick plan is irrelevant once the moral one is considered. Human rights are such a nuisance sometimes huh?
jeah you've got to have the "cash" to afford human rights that's the true american philosophy.
OK, this may hurt Mexico but where else would Americans be getting the cheaper goods? They seem to be also in a trade war with China. Is there any Latin American country that can supply goods that would have come from Mexico?
I think someone should also be helping Mexico fix their borders, they're also being swamped by "immigrants" coming from South America. They also don't seem to have a strong border with Guatemala and Belize.
IMHO America should be doing what China is doing with Southeast Asia - pour investments into most neighbors. Get a stronger foothold on those countries by entangling their economy with yours and raise the standard of living just enough to reduce the number of people trying to go to America.
I think someone should also be helping Mexico fix their borders, they're also being swamped by "immigrants" coming from South America. They also don't seem to have a strong border with Guatemala and Belize.
IMHO America should be doing what China is doing with Southeast Asia - pour investments into most neighbors. Get a stronger foothold on those countries by entangling their economy with yours and raise the standard of living just enough to reduce the number of people trying to go to America.
Tariffs on Mexican goods will cause less Mexican goods to be consumed, and will hurt Mexico. These tariffs will not push consumption of Mexican goods to zero, and US consumers will pay more for Mexican goods. As Spendulus stated, US consumers will substitute other goods if price/quality of the substituted goods makes sense, and US consumers will also buy less Mexican goods even when there is no comparable substitute when the goods are not needed to cover basic needs (less luxury goods will be purchased from Mexico).
Additional empirical evidence that tariffs hurt the country they are levied against is that the various countries Trump has levied tariffs against have issued retaliatory tariffs, and have tried to negotiate with the US to get the tariffs removed.
Tariffs will cause the Mexican government to monitor their own borders to keep illegals from passing through Mexico to the U.S. Why? Because Mexico will have to recover the funds it loses in sales or tariffs.
A side effect will be that U.S. companies that moved to Mexico will want to move to some more favorable place in the world. This will really hurt the Mexican economy. If Mexico doesn't want this, they will hold people back, away from the U.S. border in the hopes that the U.S. will lift the tariffs.
Another side effect will be that some jobs will come back to the U.S., and that tariff money will help support the U.S.
Can anyone see the downside of this against the general populace of the American people?
I am not aware of the situation there. I have heard many things that people who live there can truly understand what's going on.
Maybe Mexico wants this influx of people to happen and they probably get benefited from it and they don't want to stop it.
The situation is serious and it can probably cause a significant crisis in the US or even raise extremist rights in power.
Maybe Mexico wants this influx of people to happen and they probably get benefited from it and they don't want to stop it.
The situation is serious and it can probably cause a significant crisis in the US or even raise extremist rights in power.
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