1 MAN 560+ accounts on forum, Millions of tokens abused.

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Quote from: Patatas on July 28, 2018, 08:28:13 AM

- A rule on bitcointalk which would only allow bounties to be run by a set of campaign managers should accomplish this.

You mean "trained and licensed bounty managers"? Yeah, that'll never work.

All you need is to start banning managers who notoriously ignore spamming among own participants.

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Quote from: Ridwan Fauzi on August 02, 2018, 11:04:59 AM

At least this way will reduce this forum with someone who abusing the bounties everywhere.

Creating 500 new accounts (rank newbie) will be easier than the bounty cheater to buy 500 jr.member account.

Just time and process will make bounty cheating dwindle or even disappear.

I'ts actually the same thing since JR= newbie with 4 weeks and 30 post, it changes with members since you need merit points and is quite hard earning 10 merit on 500 accounts.

Ridwan Fauzi

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Quote from: Stedsm on August 01, 2018, 01:20:50 PM

Quote from: Ridwan Fauzi on August 01, 2018, 12:57:44 PM

Merit system will inhibit noobs in keeping up bounty programs, if the program bounty has a high rank requirement at least jr.member to be a participant, be it airdrop or bounty campaign. So as those who are resourceful with the farming account will succumb and be useless to create multiple accounts.

Merit system is really great and can remove a very large number of people (mostly bots) who are currently abusing the bounties everywhere. But about the higher ranks, as you mentioned, such as Jr. Member and above is still worthless as they can still abuse them by "buying" more accounts. And I believe that they'd have made enough to drop a shit worth of BTC off their pockets and buy those cheap Jr. Member accounts, hire some manpower and give them pennies to use their accounts and rank up, be it potential accounts or current Jr. Member accounts and above.

At least this way will reduce this forum with someone who abusing the bounties everywhere.

Creating 500 new accounts (rank newbie) will be easier than the bounty cheater to buy 500 jr.member account.

Just time and process will make bounty cheating dwindle or even disappear.

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Quote from: Stedsm on August 01, 2018, 01:20:50 PM

Merit system is really great and can remove a very large number of people (mostly bots) who are currently abusing the bounties everywhere. But about the higher ranks, as you mentioned, such as Jr. Member and above is still worthless as they can still abuse them by "buying" more accounts. And I believe that they'd have made enough to drop a shit worth of BTC off their pockets and buy those cheap Jr. Member accounts, hire some manpower and give them pennies to use their accounts and rank up, be it potential accounts or current Jr. Member accounts and above.

jr=older newbie. the limit must be increased to members+ since is quite hard to buy 10 merits for 500 accounts.

Stedsm

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Quote from: Ridwan Fauzi on August 01, 2018, 12:57:44 PM

Merit system will inhibit noobs in keeping up bounty programs, if the program bounty has a high rank requirement at least jr.member to be a participant, be it airdrop or bounty campaign. So as those who are resourceful with the farming account will succumb and be useless to create multiple accounts.

Merit system is really great and can remove a very large number of people (mostly bots) who are currently abusing the bounties everywhere. But about the higher ranks, as you mentioned, such as Jr. Member and above is still worthless as they can still abuse them by "buying" more accounts. And I believe that they'd have made enough to drop a shit worth of BTC off their pockets and buy those cheap Jr. Member accounts, hire some manpower and give them pennies to use their accounts and rank up, be it potential accounts or current Jr. Member accounts and above.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on August 01, 2018, 09:37:53 AM

I think works only if anyone is banned, so if the abusers will never banned he can abuse forever.

I like this way,

Quote from: Avirunes on July 28, 2018, 07:18:57 AM

Well they most likely are newbies. I think bounties should at least have some rank restrictions in all of the campaigns. Secondly form should be properly started restricting multiple registrations and bot attack.
Good catch @coinlocket$

Merit system will inhibit noobs in keeping up bounty programs, if the program bounty has a high rank requirement at least jr.member to be a participant, be it airdrop or bounty campaign. So as those who are resourceful with the farming account will succumb and be useless to create multiple accounts.

merited

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Quote from: Stedsm on August 01, 2018, 11:05:02 AM

It's good to have such IPs blacklisted when anyone attempts to do multiple sign ups through the same IP. But, what if a bot is programmed to use different IP for each registration bypassing the rules through VPN services? There are many advantages of such things, but the biggest disadvantage is this only that one person can abuse the whole system multiple times by using such technologies. Managers can't really find these abusers (not up to the extent or number mentioned here). If such a huge racket is being run by these abusers, I believe that bounty managers need to take some very strict decisions (actions) and make things really hard for such shady behaviors and only let unique and real people join the bounty and work for it, so as to stop these bots from abusing the whole system. Shit, can't even think of how much these bastards (one person or group) could have snatched away from these bounties that was the right of those innocent people who lose the chance due to bounties getting filled already.

There should have some program so that no one can use multiple account.

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It's good to have such IPs blacklisted when anyone attempts to do multiple sign ups through the same IP. But, what if a bot is programmed to use different IP for each registration bypassing the rules through VPN services? There are many advantages of such things, but the biggest disadvantage is this only that one person can abuse the whole system multiple times by using such technologies. Managers can't really find these abusers (not up to the extent or number mentioned here). If such a huge racket is being run by these abusers, I believe that bounty managers need to take some very strict decisions (actions) and make things really hard for such shady behaviors and only let unique and real people join the bounty and work for it, so as to stop these bots from abusing the whole system. Shit, can't even think of how much these bastards (one person or group) could have snatched away from these bounties that was the right of those innocent people who lose the chance due to bounties getting filled already.

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Quote from: Avirunes on July 30, 2018, 02:42:38 AM

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Well thats IP "evil point" system and not Ip "ban" system. One can easily pass that if they use VPN to alter their IP and escape fthe IP "evil point" system.

Check this out: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12744181

I think works only if anyone is banned, so if the abusers will never banned he can abuse forever.

Quote from: theymos on October 21, 2015, 02:40:32 AM

When someone is banned, their IP and some of their neighboring IPs receive evil points.
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Avirunes

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Quote from: Miztro on July 29, 2018, 09:22:31 AM

Quote from: coinlocket$ on July 28, 2018, 07:04:49 AM

Quote from: deerlion on July 27, 2018, 05:18:37 PM

I doubt one person is able to do this, it's most likely a team of abusers working together.

It's not so hard, since we have no Ip restriction is quite easy, one bot to rule them all.

If I'm not mistaken, Bitcointalk does have an IP "ban" system that will lock accounts if too many accounts have been created. After that, it will ask you to pay a fee which you have to pay. I'm not sure if you do have to pay after that for more accounts (if there is a reoccuring theme here) or you are allowed to make as many accounts as you want to.

Well thats IP "evil point" system and not Ip "ban" system. One can easily pass that if they use VPN to alter their IP and escape fthe IP "evil point" system.

Check this out: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12744181

enginsev

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omg we can not get with an account

Miztro

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on July 28, 2018, 07:04:49 AM

Quote from: deerlion on July 27, 2018, 05:18:37 PM

I doubt one person is able to do this, it's most likely a team of abusers working together.

It's not so hard, since we have no Ip restriction is quite easy, one bot to rule them all.

If I'm not mistaken, Bitcointalk does have an IP "ban" system that will lock accounts if too many accounts have been created. After that, it will ask you to pay a fee which you have to pay. I'm not sure if you do have to pay after that for more accounts (if there is a reoccuring theme here) or you are allowed to make as many accounts as you want to.

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Quote from: oerdogan on July 28, 2018, 06:15:21 PM

That is the best investigation. You are right. I only checked for one coin (unibright) and he made atleast 502 transfer. Those transfer are almost same 25,694 UBT only.

If anyone wants to investigate more, those are the addresses to control for the "whale" here

Code:

0x67f5b5D5171b719b256Bed3BE30E5687a59F24d9
0x9C0c31426F81968E9e6EFd9740A7dF8A89D6D839
0xffa072c1932520ac931f1aa3222cf8a3f17a9cfb

oerdogan

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That is the best investigation. You are right. I only checked for one coin (unibright) and he made atleast 502 transfer. Those transfer are almost same 25,694 UBT only.

Patatas

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Quote from: Avirunes on July 28, 2018, 07:18:57 AM

Quote from: coinlocket$ on July 28, 2018, 07:04:49 AM

Quote from: deerlion on July 27, 2018, 05:18:37 PM

I doubt one person is able to do this, it's most likely a team of abusers working together.

It's not so hard, since we have no Ip restriction is quite easy, one bot to rule them all.

Well they most likely are newbies. I think bounties should at least have some rank restrictions in all of the campaigns. Secondly form should be properly started restricting multiple registrations and bot attack.

Good catch @coinlocket$

- That depends on the bounty manager who is managing the bounty.
- 80% of the bounties around bitcointalk are run by newbie Russian bounty managers who have no fuckin clue what they're doing.
- They just want their projects to be shared with as many numbers of participants as possible without considering the quality of it and what harms it brings to the forum.
- A rule on bitcointalk which would only allow bounties to be run by a set of campaign managers should accomplish this.

Avirunes

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on July 28, 2018, 07:04:49 AM

Quote from: deerlion on July 27, 2018, 05:18:37 PM

I doubt one person is able to do this, it's most likely a team of abusers working together.

It's not so hard, since we have no Ip restriction is quite easy, one bot to rule them all.

Well they most likely are newbies. I think bounties should at least have some rank restrictions in all of the campaigns. Secondly form should be properly started restricting multiple registrations and bot attack.

Good catch @coinlocket$

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Quote from: deerlion on July 27, 2018, 05:18:37 PM

I doubt one person is able to do this, it's most likely a team of abusers working together.

It's not so hard, since we have no Ip restriction is quite easy, one bot to rule them all.

deerlion

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Quote from: baundul on July 27, 2018, 03:49:27 PM

Thank you, you made it very difficult to collect. To me it seems impossible how a man manages more than 560+ IDs. Is that ETH address a trader? Bitcoin is not legal in our country. We have to go to the trader to withdraw money. Trader uses 1 ETH address and we provide them from our ETH address. One ETH address is associated with many others. We do not complete the transaction to frud. I did not clean the person (rpgmasters), but only we have to face such problems. We are afraid of such dangers like this.

I doubt one person is able to do this, it's most likely a team of abusers working together.

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Quote from: baundul on July 27, 2018, 03:49:27 PM

Thank you, you made it very difficult to collect. To me it seems impossible how a man manages more than 560+ IDs. Is that ETH address a trader? Bitcoin is not legal in our country. We have to go to the trader to withdraw money. Trader uses 1 ETH address and we provide them from our ETH address. One ETH address is associated with many others. We do not complete the transaction to frud. I did not clean the person (rpgmasters), but only we have to face such problems. We are afraid of such dangers like this.

rpgmasters can be or not can be the owner of the storm of accounts, we need a better deeper investigation if anyone wants to help.
Looking the differents history of addresses can be him.

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Thank you, you made it very difficult to collect. To me it seems impossible how a man manages more than 560+ IDs. Is that ETH address a trader? Bitcoin is not legal in our country. We have to go to the trader to withdraw money. Trader uses 1 ETH address and we provide them from our ETH address. One ETH address is associated with many others. We do not complete the transaction to frud. I did not clean the person (rpgmasters), but only we have to face such problems. We are afraid of such dangers like this.

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