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Topic: 1 Million dollars per coin by year 2020. I am not kidding. - page 5. (Read 13725 times)

legendary
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Similarly there are only 21 million bitcoins. But bitcoin banks could hold 210 million bitcoins off the block chain.



A bit on the chain is worth ten in the bank?

If it works this way with USD, why wouldn't it work with BTC?

Edit: virtual BTC will debase the real ones same way as virtual USD debases paper bills, but they will probably have equal value ($100 bill has almost the same value as $100 bank deposit).

Oh, the bankers will try to fractionalize Bitcoin for sure.

The problem is in your example the banks would have 10-to-1 leverage, and at some point will have a squeeze that will turn into a run on the bank. Today this happens all the time, but the FED is able to print and backstop the banks at will, or run other special liquidity programs, which have the effect of preventing a run from ever happening, but slowing destroys the dollar. But with Bitcoin there will be no FED to provide liquidity. People will learn the hard way to not do business with leveraged banks (something that was common knowledge just 2-3 generations ago).

Any bank providing 10-to-1 leverage will get wiped out, and the end result will be that banks do not fractionalize Bitcoin.
legendary
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Tax heaven bank accounts hold 30 trillion dollars? But there are only 3 trillion dollars in existence.

You know that dollar isn't the only currency in the world?

By the way everyone talks on here, it seems like that USD is the only currency ...
sr. member
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If everyone who had 1 Bitcoin became a millionaire then the world would have far to many millionaires and that status would not be as prestigious as today. Some people have thousands of Bitcoin so do the math, its pretty much impossible.

Well there can even theoretically be only 21 million people with 1 Bitcoin and of course the real number will be much lower because many people have much more and  all the lost coins etc. 

And today there is approximately 10 million people today with net worth more than 1 Million excluding their apartment. So your argument basically makes no sense what so ever.

I did a quick search and apparently around ~12 million people in the world are millionaires. It just seems disproportionate to me to think that even 5 Million people with 1 Bitcoin could become millionaires. Obviously this discounts the possibility of Bitcoin becoming the new world currency. I should add that it is Friday and I have been drinking lots of beer so I might disagree with my posts tomorrow.  Cheesy
full member
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It will happen eventually, there will be so many millionaires, but what will they do for the good of society? They should take the role of creating job and improve the living environment of everyone Smiley

+1
legendary
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Beyond Imagination
It will happen eventually, there will be so many millionaires, but what will they do for the good of society? They should take the role of creating job and improve the living environment of everyone Smiley
sr. member
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Tax heaven bank accounts hold 30 trillion dollars? But there are only 3 trillion dollars in existence.

You know that dollar isn't the only currency in the world?
full member
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The bubble will pop.

You mean traditional banks, bitcoin rally or both? Wink
full member
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The bubble will pop.
full member
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Similarly there are only 21 million bitcoins. But bitcoin banks could hold 210 million bitcoins off the block chain.



A bit on the chain is worth ten in the bank?

If it works this way with USD, why wouldn't it work with BTC?

Edit: virtual BTC will debase the real ones same way as virtual USD debases paper bills, but they will probably have equal value ($100 bill has almost the same value as $100 bank deposit).
legendary
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Similarly there are only 21 million bitcoins. But bitcoin banks could hold 210 million bitcoins off the block chain.



A bit on the chain is worth ten in the bank?
newbie
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If everyone who had 1 Bitcoin became a millionaire then the world would have far to many millionaires and that status would not be as prestigious as today. Some people have thousands of Bitcoin so do the math, its pretty much impossible.

Anyone who has thousands of bitcoins right now, isn't going to hold onto every single one of them without selling some along the way, unless they were already rich and it wouldn't have made a difference or impact to them.
full member
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Tax heaven bank accounts hold 30 trillion dollars? But there are only 3 trillion dollars in existence.

Similarly there are only 21 million bitcoins. But bitcoin banks could hold 210 million bitcoins off the block chain.

So I wouldn't compare capitalization of 21 million real bitcoins to capitalization of 30 trillion of virtual dollars.
sr. member
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full member
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I don't see how it is possible. Bitcoin capitalization of 21 trillion dollars is not possible in foreseeable future. Bitcoin should be 7 times more ubiquous than US dollar to make that possible. Not going to happen within a couple of years.
legendary
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Wannabe millionaires...
sr. member
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If everyone who had 1 Bitcoin became a millionaire then the world would have far to many millionaires and that status would not be as prestigious as today. Some people have thousands of Bitcoin so do the math, its pretty much impossible.

Well there can even theoretically be only 21 million people with 1 Bitcoin and of course the real number will be much lower because many people have much more and  all the lost coins etc. 

And today there is approximately 10 million people today with net worth more than 1 Million excluding their apartment. So your argument basically makes no sense what so ever.
full member
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Bitcoin - love & hate
its possible if it is used the same as fiat.. that's only a 12 trillion dollar market cap, which is still far away from ~60 trillion dollars of fiat in the world.

It's possible, but there are a few assumptions:

There had to be a complete redistribution of wealth to achieve that
Or are all talking about fiat inflation and in 2020 you can buy 1 bread with 1 bitcoin worth 10 million usd?  Grin

You can't meassure btc alone with fiat.
The import part is, what can you get for 1 btc.

If you can get a house (worth today 500k USD) with 1 coin, then there has to be some major redistribution. That means, we need a lot more fiat in this system, we even need all of it currently available. How likely is that? 1: 10^12 or even less.

It's like a pyramide. To increase the price, we need massive amounts of fiat.


I just ride the bitcoin train as long as it's driving, but I'm not as dellusional to believe we could even reach 1 million per bitcoin in current fiat value. That would be generation wealth out of thin air.
full member
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Don't beat around the bush!  Bitcoin is so revolutionary that in 2020 the concept of 1 million dollars will be completely meaningless, and you'll have to explain what paper money was to your grandkids.
sr. member
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its possible if it is used the same as fiat.. that's only a 12 trillion dollar market cap, which is still far away from ~60 trillion dollars of fiat in the world.
newbie
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some will be billionaire then  Grin
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