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October 06, 2014, 05:56:10 PM
#57
The guy whose shoes got splashed whilst standing next to the URO dev at the urinals, will receive more urea than all the investors/miners/believers in this scam put together. Amen.
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October 06, 2014, 05:42:01 PM
#56
they are different companies same as myself is an independent contractor with my own company setup to pay my own taxes, while my "boss" has his own company and i invoice him for the work..  basically we're one company but not legally.  (its a bad setup but it works, though the brunt of taxes lie on my shoulders for the money I make)   those being different companies and the same makes sense to me. 
and if they studied at scam management, you studied @ internet wastes time academy  Tongue
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October 06, 2014, 03:20:58 PM
#55
ahipment is done, or nearly done isnt it? I mean according to the timelines it would have been delivered by now. shipment is old news of course the focus has moved on.  If Rivaa never got their Urea I'd expect Nilesh & co behind bars.. But Nilesh is happily on twitter, and Bohans still active so I assume everything went alright.  I guess I dont see your point that its a scam if the 4 NIERs are related to GES. If anything thats the only way this gets itself off the ground? What lies about the NIERS I dont recall anyone saying they wern't controlled by GES. and I've made the assumption they were since I first saw the old GES website...

edie*
Maybe Sugar Singh is 1099'd (or the Indian equivalent of it) you dont need a website or much information to be an independent contractor of sorts for a variety of companies..

there should be more shipments than those from Rivaa, right? He keeps posting about some contracts but we dont see any legal document for those Urea shipments (and we will never see any).

so why even bring these companies names up if there is only one that is doing all the business? Did Nilesh just setup these companies (registered by residents) to avoid international tax law, getting visas done and opening a bank account. These companies exist just for him to avoid some taxes and hide revenues?

CCL Pillay Group, Urea Trading India & Crown Team Corporation are only the Subsidiaries from GES, correct?
Thats why Vinny Pillay is listed as Director of GES South Africa but for Urea Shipment they use Grey Griffin Group.


So why even make such a secret about it?  Bohan had few interviews where he kept talking about 4 "different" companies...and now we talk about one company "GES". Thats all! Why?

The same thing Bohan is doing now with setting up exchange in Pakistan but getting the registration number from different company.  Nilesh (his Guru) have taught him how to do such things i guess.

And we should trust these guys our money??? Please!!! These guys studied SCAM Management for long time.


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October 06, 2014, 12:48:49 PM
#54
ahipment is done, or nearly done isnt it? I mean according to the timelines it would have been delivered by now. shipment is old news of course the focus has moved on.  If Rivaa never got their Urea I'd expect Nilesh & co behind bars.. But Nilesh is happily on twitter, and Bohans still active so I assume everything went alright.  I guess I dont see your point that its a scam if the 4 NIERs are related to GES. If anything thats the only way this gets itself off the ground? What lies about the NIERS I dont recall anyone saying they wern't controlled by GES. and I've made the assumption they were since I first saw the old GES website...

edie*
Maybe Sugar Singh is 1099'd (or the Indian equivalent of it) you dont need a website or much information to be an independent contractor of sorts for a variety of companies..
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October 06, 2014, 12:33:19 PM
#53
Don't know if this helps or hurts the witch hunt, since all the NIER's were listed on the old GES page as regional offices, wouldnt it make sense that they could be part or majority owned by GES? It doesnt make sense that they would have gotten 4 satellite companies they dont know and cant control to sign the URO protocol. Makes more sense that they had 4 of their regional offices open up to taking uro for urea as part of a big project.

the fact is Nilesh bought Grey Griffin before his bankrupcy. Bohan and Nilesh wanted to have a great start with UROCOIN so bringing 4 different NIERS and not telling crypto world that all of them are linked to Nilesh Nair, would bring lots of attention and maybe some "real" investors/niers. There are still sticking to those 4 and we have only seen some action from GES. Too many lies from Nilesh & Co.
Now the focus went from shipment and URO to UROSE and UROEX.
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October 06, 2014, 09:41:17 AM
#52
Don't know if this helps or hurts the witch hunt, since all the NIER's were listed on the old GES page as regional offices, wouldnt it make sense that they could be part or majority owned by GES? It doesnt make sense that they would have gotten 4 satellite companies they dont know and cant control to sign the URO protocol. Makes more sense that they had 4 of their regional offices open up to taking uro for urea as part of a big project.
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October 06, 2014, 08:14:16 AM
#51
Urea Trading India (India)
TIN: 08604354310/JAIPUR III-L-V

CCL Pillay Group (South Africa)
Enterprise Number: 2011/002529/07

Green Earth Systems (Hong Kong)
Registration Number: 1682761

Crown Team Corporation (Hong Kong)
Registration Number: 1898106


CCL Pillay Group (South Africa)
Enterprise Number: 2011/002529/07  
being that this is such a "big company", its really strange that you can not find any details but the Enterprise Number is for Carbon Capture, not the Group.
Even Carbon Capture does not have website. so how to check if company is legal if there is nothing to find? would you please help, or do I need to contact [email protected] to get some information? http://www.cipc.co.za/

So, Vinny Pillay is Director of Green Earth System SA , Director of Carbon Capture (no info), Owner of Grey GRiffin International Supplies (51% owned by GES), Practitioner, correct? Looks like all these companies are related to GES meaning to Nilesh Nair. Thats why we never hear from any other NIER but only from Nilesh Nair, correct?

It would be nice to have an answer to this. Thank you.


There is no evidence to suggest that Grey Griffin or CCL is owned by GES. People can be involved with multiple companies. Examples in the Bitcoin space include Broke Pierce (GoCoin, expresscoin, BlockStreet, Coin Congress, ZenBox, Crypto Currency Partners, KnCMiner.cn, & Robocoin Asia) and Roger Vor (Blockchain.info, BitPay, Ripple, Kraken, CoinLab & CoinSetter)

Not everyone is interested in spending effort on social media. This is just a matter of perspective & preference. Different people have different priorities, values and ways of building relationships, communicating and doing business.

Bohan, there is no evidence is your answer? or the statement that i made is not true? Is it true or not true? Then we can look for the evidence, no problem. I know how to find it.

Yes, we know people are involved with many different companies, like VBBB and 1WBE and they already have 2 more registered. Like you running many different websites... we all know that. That was not the question. The question is does Nilesh Nair owns 51% of Grey Griffin / CCL Pillay Group?
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Uro: 1 URO = 1 metric tonne of Urea N46 fertilizer
October 06, 2014, 05:48:18 AM
#50
Urea Trading India (India)
TIN: 08604354310/JAIPUR III-L-V

CCL Pillay Group (South Africa)
Enterprise Number: 2011/002529/07

Green Earth Systems (Hong Kong)
Registration Number: 1682761

Crown Team Corporation (Hong Kong)
Registration Number: 1898106


CCL Pillay Group (South Africa)
Enterprise Number: 2011/002529/07  
being that this is such a "big company", its really strange that you can not find any details but the Enterprise Number is for Carbon Capture, not the Group.
Even Carbon Capture does not have website. so how to check if company is legal if there is nothing to find? would you please help, or do I need to contact [email protected] to get some information? http://www.cipc.co.za/

So, Vinny Pillay is Director of Green Earth System SA , Director of Carbon Capture (no info), Owner of Grey GRiffin International Supplies (51% owned by GES), Practitioner, correct? Looks like all these companies are related to GES meaning to Nilesh Nair. Thats why we never hear from any other NIER but only from Nilesh Nair, correct?

It would be nice to have an answer to this. Thank you.


There is no evidence to suggest that Grey Griffin or CCL is owned by GES. People can be involved with multiple companies. Examples in the Bitcoin space include Broke Pierce (GoCoin, expresscoin, BlockStreet, Coin Congress, ZenBox, Crypto Currency Partners, KnCMiner.cn, & Robocoin Asia) and Roger Vor (Blockchain.info, BitPay, Ripple, Kraken, CoinLab & CoinSetter)

Not everyone is interested in spending effort on social media. This is just a matter of perspective & preference. Different people have different priorities, values and ways of building relationships, communicating and doing business.
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October 05, 2014, 01:01:33 PM
#49
Urea Trading India (India)
TIN: 08604354310/JAIPUR III-L-V

CCL Pillay Group (South Africa)
Enterprise Number: 2011/002529/07

Green Earth Systems (Hong Kong)
Registration Number: 1682761

Crown Team Corporation (Hong Kong)
Registration Number: 1898106


CCL Pillay Group (South Africa)
Enterprise Number: 2011/002529/07  
being that this is such a "big company", its really strange that you can not find any details but the Enterprise Number is for Carbon Capture, not the Group.
Even Carbon Capture does not have website. so how to check if company is legal if there is nothing to find? would you please help, or do I need to contact [email protected] to get some information? http://www.cipc.co.za/

So, Vinny Pillay is Director of Green Earth System SA , Director of Carbon Capture (no info), Owner of Grey GRiffin International Supplies (51% owned by GES), Practitioner, correct? Looks like all these companies are related to GES meaning to Nilesh Nair. Thats why we never hear from any other NIER but only from Nilesh Nair, correct?

It would be nice to have an answer to this. Thank you.

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Uro: 1 URO = 1 metric tonne of Urea N46 fertilizer
October 05, 2014, 12:23:17 PM
#48
Uro thread is looked,  scam accusations,  no proofs about the Uro especial event ... now think.

Uro special event wft is that some golden shower festival or what?

Please see here for more information about UROSE 2014: http://bitcoinist.net/exclusive-interview-with-the-uro-foundation-urose/
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Uro: 1 URO = 1 metric tonne of Urea N46 fertilizer
October 05, 2014, 12:20:29 PM
#47
How do you claim your 1 ton of urea if you have 1 URO? If there's no way to claim it then this coin isn't worth shit.

Please refer to the Uro Protocol for details regarding how merchants are accepting URO as payment for urea orders: http://uro.io/UroProtocol.pdf

Here are the merchants that have ratified the protocol so far:

http://uro.io/Uro%20Protocol%20GES%20Instrument%20of%20Ratification%20June%202014%20JPG90.jpg
http://uro.io/Uro%20Protocol%20Crown%20Team%20Instrument%20of%20Ratification%20June%202014%20JPG90.jpg
http://uro.io/Uro%20Protocol%20CCL%20Pillay%20Instrument%20of%20Ratification%20June%202014.pdf
http://uro.io/Uro%20Protocol%20Instrument%20of%20Ratification%20-%20India%20Trading%20Urea%20-%20June%202014.jpg

Here is a press release for the first order completed in July:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/uro-completes-world-first-commodity-035900449.html
http://www.rivaa.in/Announcement
http://greenearthsystems.com.au/world-first-by-green-earth-uro-for-urea/

Here are some pictures from the latest urea supply joint venture between GES and a major urea producer that manufactures 2 million tonnes per year (there are only 1 million total units of URO in the initial distribution period):

https://twitter.com/NileshCNair/status/517594199667900417
https://twitter.com/UroFoundation/status/511876930803486721
https://twitter.com/SugarSingh2510

Traditionally these companies have not been active on social media and the web in general but they are slowly responding to the desires of the general public for increased web presence.
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October 05, 2014, 11:44:39 AM
#46
Urea Trading India (India)
TIN: 08604354310/JAIPUR III-L-V

CCL Pillay Group (South Africa)
Enterprise Number: 2011/002529/07

Green Earth Systems (Hong Kong)
Registration Number: 1682761

Crown Team Corporation (Hong Kong)
Registration Number: 1898106


thank you, so nice of you.
But do you have a CIN Number (The Corporate Identity Number, 21 digits) of Urea Trading India. Why would you use their Tax Ident Number as reference? This number needs to be printed on each invoice, business letters etc.

http://www.mca.gov.in/DCAPortalWeb/dca/MyMCALogin.do?method=setDefaultProperty&sessioncheck=yes&mode=44
http://zeenews.india.com/business/news/finance/listed-companies-to-display-cin-on-bourse-website-says-bse_101041.html
http://www.kcjm.in/ready-to-pay-penalty-if-not-mentioning-company-identification-number-cin/
CIN Number would also show if company is listed or not.


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Uro: 1 URO = 1 metric tonne of Urea N46 fertilizer
October 05, 2014, 09:02:21 AM
#45
Urea Trading India (India)
TIN: 08604354310/JAIPUR III-L-V

CCL Pillay Group (South Africa)
Enterprise Number: 2011/002529/07

Green Earth Systems (Hong Kong)
Registration Number: 1682761

Crown Team Corporation (Hong Kong)
Registration Number: 1898106
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October 05, 2014, 06:38:57 AM
#44
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October 05, 2014, 05:58:04 AM
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Uro: 1 URO = 1 metric tonne of Urea N46 fertilizer
October 05, 2014, 03:30:31 AM
#42
The latest news articles are currently being aggregated at http://urocentral.wordpress.com - this site also has full discussion/commenting capabilities.

Old media coverage can be accessed via: https://angel.co/uro-foundation/activity#press

Here are some of my social member/verification profiles:

TrustCloud (6/7): https://trustcloud.com/!/bohan/
Twitter (registered in 2010): https://twitter.com/bohan_h
ZapChain: http://www.zapchain.com/u/624782854304375
POD: http://cryptoasian.com/uro-urocoin/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bohan0
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/bohan0
LaunchPad (registered in 2006): https://launchpad.net/~bohan
OneName: https://onename.io/bohan

Here is URO on BlockCypher (they only have BTC, LTC and URO): http://www.blockcypher.com/#showcase

This is the JavaScript library I am maintaining to help people write 100% HTML5 BlockCypher wallets: https://github.com/urocoin/coinutils-browserify

This the 100% HTML5 wallet I am actively improving: https://github.com/urocoin/nuro-intel-xdk

You can access the wallet from any browser via http://nuroapp.github.io. To understand why SSL is not needed please watch the Nuro Blackboard Series: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB1gMRiM5BbGfVihf6gplM857hj94auBB
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Uro: 1 URO = 1 metric tonne of Urea N46 fertilizer
October 05, 2014, 03:18:38 AM
#41
Is anyone talking Urocoin anywhere?  

Pls. go to https://webchat.freenode.net/ and go to #URO   channel

If the dev is serious about this coin he needs to stop being a little baby and come back to bitcointalk.

Why is the blockchain still a slow piece of shit? Why do transactions take hours? Why is a 250 Uro transaction deemed to be too large when the minimum order is 12.5k? Why has there been no update to fix things? Seriously, wtf?

its slow because multipools rape it then dissapear.. transactions take a while from bittrex even if the blockchain moves at a normal pace for some reason.  250 isnt to large i moved 1k form bittrex last week it just takes time.  250 may be to large to not include transaction fee.. which is the case with most transactions with most coins.  

Right. So the difficulty needs fixing. And I know my wallet would not let me sent 250 uro in one go, and I pay the transaction fees. So is there an updated wallet? Would you mind acting as a go-between for bitcointalk and this childish dev and tell him to fix this shit? Or come back to the forum where he launched his coin?

Please PM me your address so I can analyse the problem. Thanks

We prefer support requests to be posted on http://launchpad.net/uro because that makes issues it easier to track and resolve.

I would like to point out that there are many 12500 URO transactions on the block chain, see http://www.richlist.eu/uro

Without your address, I believe the problem may be that you are mining with p2pool with many machines going to different addresses in the same wallet. If this is the case - the many small transactions are created, and the wallet will prevent a single transaction if the number of inputs raises the kB size of transaction above the max limit. All coins have this problem - but we are investigating possible solutions. We can fix it just be increasing the max kB limit per transaction - but this can have other issues, so we have to tread carefully.

With regards to difficulty, we do experience occasionally delays of several hours. at the moment, we have determined that we cannot improve the response speed of our retarget algorithm (gravity well based) without possibly opening up URO to timewarp attacks. Our evaluation of DigiShield continues and we will switch over to that when we are satisfied that there are no negative consequences of switching to this faster per block retarget algo.
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October 03, 2014, 09:40:24 AM
#40
I don't think 1 URO will be valuable as 1 ton of urea.It's just too much difference.
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October 03, 2014, 07:47:50 AM
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So who does their taxes then? Please, share this information. And why don't you all stop being so damn precious about this shit? "Oh we don't have to tell you, you should do your homework". What the hell is that about? Any time anyone has a question that's too awkward, the same old defensive behaviour is trotted out, the oh so indignant, how dare you say that you nasty FUDDER. Now that's the shit that's getting old. A dev who has no answers and runs from bitcointalk is getting old. If he was confident in URO, he'd be on this forum answering all questions.

I have to wonder if any of the true believers have ever run a business or been involved in one at all!  I have, and even if it were a legit business I wouldn't have anything to do with it because of the incredibly piss-poor job they're doing.  Let's assume they're legit... they've got nothing on the front-end, nobody answering the phone, emails, communications are a mess, fires are left to burn, and the "value" of the coin which they need to skyrocket to bitcoin level is left to take the slow train to 1 sat.  They couldn't organize a piss-up in a brewery.
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October 03, 2014, 07:30:25 AM
#38



Two things you mention are total hallmarks of the scammer, the total outrage at legitimate questions, and leaving the defense to the true believers.  As for how companies run businesses.... Industrial sector, international trades, baseline numbers of hundred thousand dollars.  No involved companies can be bothered to spare a P.R. person to just drop by the most important forum where validation for this project will come from to put out fires and provide bonafides.  There are a lot of things where if true, everything falls apart.  It's like this... I met a guy once who claimed to be a mathematician, but he misunderstood the word Complex to mean "complicated", and he didn't know who Paul Erdos was.  Busted, period.


i don't have any stake in uro, but if you had seen the massive FUD campaign that was launched at that coin you wouldn't be writing this. it was absolutely brutal and no single person or even a whole community managed to contain it. check the closed threads and read it up for yourself.

i really hope for all the supporters that the project turns out to be no scam and becomes a giant success.
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