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Quote from: alibert on June 23, 2013, 11:46:38 PM

Quote from: lazydna on June 23, 2013, 04:25:52 PM

Quote from: alibert on June 23, 2013, 04:23:35 PM

Then why should the increase stay at 17% (who would buy those asics)

rephrase, don't understand what you are trying to say.

These are preorders beeping shipped and added to the network hash rate. At 17% difficulty increase no one would buy asics, because they have negative ROI. Therefore the difficulty will not increase that fast. I believe its going to skyrocket until august then rise at a low rate (like 1-5% per cycle).

it's too late, we're still trying to catchup to the hardware sales, avalon has sold 500,000 chips for diy builders, adding 125theta. doesn't include bfl sales or KNC.

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Quote from: Pierre on June 24, 2013, 12:10:14 AM

Quote from: alibert on June 23, 2013, 11:46:38 PM

At 17% difficulty increase no one would buy asics, because they have negative ROI.

But they buy anyway. People are paying as much BTC 3 per GH! ROI be damned. They don't seem to care.

But it drops very fast. Some weeks ago people were paying like 45000 for Avalon Batch 2 orders, now even in hand units are around 150 BTC.

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Quote from: alibert on June 23, 2013, 11:46:38 PM

At 17% difficulty increase no one would buy asics, because they have negative ROI.

But they buy anyway. People are paying as much BTC 3 per GH! ROI be damned. They don't seem to care.

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Quote from: lazydna on June 23, 2013, 04:25:52 PM

Quote from: alibert on June 23, 2013, 04:23:35 PM

Then why should the increase stay at 17% (who would buy those asics)

rephrase, don't understand what you are trying to say.

These are preorders beeping shipped and added to the network hash rate. At 17% difficulty increase no one would buy asics, because they have negative ROI. Therefore the difficulty will not increase that fast. I believe its going to skyrocket until august then rise at a low rate (like 1-5% per cycle).

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Quote from: cedivad on June 23, 2013, 04:31:37 PM

Quote from: lazydna on June 23, 2013, 03:46:58 PM

Quote from: alibert on June 23, 2013, 03:42:06 PM

Which ASIC has positive ROI at 17% increase?

terrahash, kncminer, bitfury.

Lol. Just wait and see.

at this moment, if nothing is introduced to to throw off the calculations.
a very high 21% increase every 11days. including the fact that these items will ship in 2months from now.
they will still break even, and return a profit of about 20-30%

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Quote from: lazydna on June 23, 2013, 03:46:58 PM

Quote from: alibert on June 23, 2013, 03:42:06 PM

Which ASIC has positive ROI at 17% increase?

terrahash, kncminer, bitfury.

Lol. Just wait and see.

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Quote from: alibert on June 23, 2013, 04:23:35 PM

Then why should the increase stay at 17% (who would buy those asics)

rephrase, don't understand what you are trying to say.

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Then why should the increase stay at 17% (who would buy those asics)

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Quote from: bitdaniel on June 23, 2013, 03:54:46 PM

Quote from: lazydna on June 23, 2013, 03:46:58 PM

Quote from: alibert on June 23, 2013, 03:42:06 PM

Which ASIC has positive ROI at 17% increase?

terrahash, kncminer, bitfury.

But still not there...

he asked which one has a positive roi @ 17%.
none of the currents asics do.
avalon @ 70g/hash will return 135BTC, NOW @ 17% every 11days.
if you start, today.

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Quote from: lazydna on June 23, 2013, 03:46:58 PM

Quote from: alibert on June 23, 2013, 03:42:06 PM

Which ASIC has positive ROI at 17% increase?

terrahash, kncminer, bitfury.

But still not there...

lazydna

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Quote from: alibert on June 23, 2013, 03:42:06 PM

Which ASIC has positive ROI at 17% increase?

terrahash, kncminer, bitfury.

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Which ASIC has positive ROI at 17% increase?

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Quote from: alibert on June 23, 2013, 05:41:00 AM

How much was it for the past 36 cycles?

Much lower, but that was before the ASIC days

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How much was it for the past 36 cycles?

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Quote from: lazydna on June 21, 2013, 06:17:05 PM

hah crunched the numbers, @ 185btc @ 104usd.
10% diff every 11days, moderate.

you would need to wait until june 14 2014 to break even.

and you would earn 300 dollars keeping the machine running till nov 2014.

electricity 0.11kWh 750watts.

Huh

wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Yea it's crazy. And you are assuming only 10% difficulty increase every 2016 blocks? Well over the last 12 cycles the difficulty increased from 3 million to over 19 million. That's 17% per cycle!

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i can not believe this.there is must something wrong for me or somebody.

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dogiecoin.com

If anyone wants a unit still, I'm now auctioning mine:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wts-b2-avalon-in-hand-240570

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hah crunched the numbers, @ 185btc @ 104usd.
10% diff every 11days, moderate.

you would need to wait until june 14 2014 to break even.

and you would earn 300 dollars keeping the machine running till nov 2014.

electricity 0.11kWh 750watts.

Huh

wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

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I wouldn't ask for it if you didn't! I only want what's owed to me!

Okay you sent the .098 so that's close enough. We're square now!

You're lucky you didn't unleash the beast on yourself! Grin

Quote from: cedivad on June 21, 2013, 04:31:59 PM

Quote from: lmontrose on June 21, 2013, 04:22:50 PM

So do you plan on refunding me my .1 BTC or not? I already message you the BTC address.

Quote from: cedivad on June 21, 2013, 03:29:56 PM

Quote from: lmontrose on June 21, 2013, 03:28:01 PM

That's not quite fair! U only have one TARD.. so just void his bids! He can't create another account to bid that quickly.

Send me 0.1BTC here: 14x3T9Hq6V27dkoF1cdMqBBQhghqs6SQPA
and i will let you bid.
I will refund you at the end of the auction.

Sorry for the mess, everyone.

I will do that since that i quoted you on that post.

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Quote from: lmontrose on June 21, 2013, 04:22:50 PM

So do you plan on refunding me my .1 BTC or not? I already message you the BTC address.

Quote from: cedivad on June 21, 2013, 03:29:56 PM

Quote from: lmontrose on June 21, 2013, 03:28:01 PM

That's not quite fair! U only have one TARD.. so just void his bids! He can't create another account to bid that quickly.

Send me 0.1BTC here: 14x3T9Hq6V27dkoF1cdMqBBQhghqs6SQPA
and i will let you bid.
I will refund you at the end of the auction.

Sorry for the mess, everyone.

I will do that since that i quoted you on that post.

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