Topic: 10% collateral BTC loan...real or scam? (Read 322 times)
OP, since you've got your answer, it's recommended to lock this thread.
Very obvious scam wise move you asked first here before falling into this trap, why would you send a bitcoin collateral if you want to loan a bitcoin? Other lenders ask for altcoins instead but its not even trusted because you are dealing with people you dont know the reputation in a random telegram group, there are plenty of this kind beware.
You should listen to your friends. Do not trust most proofs you see online because screenshots can be edited and blockchain transactions doesn't proof anything. There are groups that sends transactions among themselves just to deceive people like it's a real transaction.
If you are in need of loan, it's better to go to bank, or here on this forum if you have a good reputation. I won't advise you to go for crypto lending platform because the collateral are always x2 of the amount you want to borrow.
If you are in need of loan, it's better to go to bank, or here on this forum if you have a good reputation. I won't advise you to go for crypto lending platform because the collateral are always x2 of the amount you want to borrow.
You know it is a scam. It doesn't make sense. Why would someone give you 10x more what you give them? That is all you need to know. "happy" users can just be bots or alternative accounts or maybe it is a group of scammers that split their ill-gotten gains at the end of their devious deeds. I don't think telegram is the right platform to find somewhere to get a loan from.
"So where did you get the loan to pay off your new house" "on Telegram" Can you not hear how that sounds?
"So where did you get the loan to pay off your new house" "on Telegram" Can you not hear how that sounds?
Whatever the collateral percentage is and whatever the yearly returns is, there's literally NO WAY I'm going to lend money to a telegram group. Imagine a scammer so bad at stealing money that they don't even bother to spend some money to rent a server and start a website.
Not only that! If indeed it turns out to be scam, then there is no way he can recover his funds because he is dealing with mostly anonymous individuals with no known office address, identities, etc., which in short, he is dealing with ghosts!
Maybe he can file a legal complaint but I'm sure he will just be naming his respondents as John Doe's and Jane Doe's!
Bitcoinist don't run lending services. They're a news website with more or less similar level of crypto journalism with other websites.
Don't be fooled. If you need more proof, send an e-mail to [email protected].
Don't be fooled. If you need more proof, send an e-mail to [email protected].
When something sounds too good to be true, then it's definitely too good to be true, scammers always invent new ways to steal from the greedy and it seems they have found another means, calling it a loan instead of a money doubling scam scheme sounds more genuine and they wanna exploit it, if it were real, then it would be a money multiplying scheme.
Look at it like this... If they collect 10% collateral to give you loans, what stops you from just abandoning your collateral and riding into the sunset with your loot? So you would effectively have multiplied your money x10 when you successfully collect a loan, this doesn't make sense at all and it should tell you that the scheme is false and you should never consider doing it
Look at it like this... If they collect 10% collateral to give you loans, what stops you from just abandoning your collateral and riding into the sunset with your loot? So you would effectively have multiplied your money x10 when you successfully collect a loan, this doesn't make sense at all and it should tell you that the scheme is false and you should never consider doing it
Whatever the collateral percentage is and whatever the yearly returns is, there's literally NO WAY I'm going to lend money to a telegram group. Imagine a scammer so bad at stealing money that they don't even bother to spend some money to rent a server and start a website.
Greetings brothers and sisters!
I wanted to ask you guys about a Telegram group offering 10% collateral loans, so if you deposit 0.1BTC you get 1 BTC. They have decent members and all of them recieved their loan, at least they pictures of the transaction s and them happiness show this way. Some of My friends said its trully a scam and dont believe them, so I thought Maybe is a group scam. Since then a lot of other members got their loan, and because I can see any transaction on the blockchain is fully transparent. Should I go for it?
Thank you for your time and answers!
Have a splendid day!
dont try to join on that telegram group cause its obvious that it is a scam. The members of that group are also scammers they show proof to attract people but believe me its a scam. I wanted to ask you guys about a Telegram group offering 10% collateral loans, so if you deposit 0.1BTC you get 1 BTC. They have decent members and all of them recieved their loan, at least they pictures of the transaction s and them happiness show this way. Some of My friends said its trully a scam and dont believe them, so I thought Maybe is a group scam. Since then a lot of other members got their loan, and because I can see any transaction on the blockchain is fully transparent. Should I go for it?
Thank you for your time and answers!
Have a splendid day!
Listen to your friends and to what other members told you here: it is a SCAM! stay away from it.
Transactions on blockchain do not prove they are legit. Maybe it is a group of scammers sending coins to each other.
If they are willing to send you 0.1BTC after you send them 0.01BTC then I don't think they will mind giving you a 0.09 loan without collateral
Transactions on blockchain do not prove they are legit. Maybe it is a group of scammers sending coins to each other.
If they are willing to send you 0.1BTC after you send them 0.01BTC then I don't think they will mind giving you a 0.09 loan without collateral
I forgot to mention that they ask for KYC
Of course! They have to ask KYC to make it more legit as most real lenders would do to identify their borrowers! 
Idk what to do, i am in quite in need of cash to do My startup, but not willing to risk or idk
Why not take a loan lets say to a friend, a family member or a person whom you personally knew! I guess this would be the best recourse than to trust unknown entities which put you to a greater risk. Imho. They have a decent website too, Bitcoinist.com.
The real telegram channel of bitcoinist.com is https://t.me/bitcoinistnews and they have about 11,700 members. Quote
They claim themselves as angel investors, helping other startups. You need to pay back the loan in USD, so because of the BTC volatility it can easily be repayed in USD
Did you even try to check the website they are bragging? If you visit https://bitcoinist.com there is no mention of any lending or any "angel investors".It was a smart move on your part to ask here first. I don't know how much you were willing to put in there but you sure saved your money from a lending scam. How did you find out about them?
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I really doubt that the telegram channel you are looking at is really connected to Bitcoinist at all. Likely, the group is trying to look legit by pointing at a real site (which by the ways seems far from being related to loans). The premise alone, of 10% collateral for the loan, seems pretty much aimed at gullible people.
No meal is free, if anyone wants to lend you money they will definitely be interested in who you are and your ability to repay your debt.
I will stay away from such groups, lots of active scams and they have lots of ways to cheat people. As soon as you send money I guess you will be banned on the group and you will lose your money.
I will stay away from such groups, lots of active scams and they have lots of ways to cheat people. As soon as you send money I guess you will be banned on the group and you will lose your money.
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I forgot to mention that they ask for KYC and 300something members all got their loan. The transaction s ARe on the blockchain. They have a decent website too, Bitcoinist.com.
How they confirm the KYC and how people submit their KYC on the telegram group? It is really very suspicious and are you sure that Bitcoinist.com is truly connected by the group?I have seen many telegram channels where they are running doubling investment [ hype ] and post screenshot and blockchain transactions. But they are totally scamming people.
So you should not trust them by depending on blockchain tnx and screenshot. Keep in mind that it is very difficult to earn money and time consuming but it does not take long to lose money. So don't be greedy or you will lose your money.
300something members all got their loan.
More likely they are using alt accounts to shill in their telegram.The transaction s ARe on the blockchain.
Means nothing. I can make 300 transactions to myself.They have a decent website too, Bitcoinist.com.
I thought bitcoinist was a news site? Is there anything on the site that mentions this telegram group? They can quite easily claim a link or affiliation which doesn't exist. 
Idk what to do, i am in quite in need of cash to do My startup, but not willing to risk or idk
DO not do it, please man you will lose your money.
please man you will lose your funds, or ignore me and come in here bitching and moaning about it afterwards
I forgot to mention that they ask for KYC and 300something members all got their loan. The transaction s ARe on the blockchain. They have a decent website too, Bitcoinist.com.
They claim themselves as angel investors, helping other startups. You need to pay back the loan in USD, so because of the BTC volatility it can easily be repayed in USD
It is interesting because you can report scam for a group on Telegram and this group is not a new one, has members and nobody reported as scam :-??
Idk what to do, i am in quite in need of cash to do My startup, but not willing to risk or idk
Thank you for your answers
They claim themselves as angel investors, helping other startups. You need to pay back the loan in USD, so because of the BTC volatility it can easily be repayed in USD
It is interesting because you can report scam for a group on Telegram and this group is not a new one, has members and nobody reported as scam :-??
Idk what to do, i am in quite in need of cash to do My startup, but not willing to risk or idk
Thank you for your answers
When I read the word telegram and loan together, it just made me sure about all of this being scam. Never trust on anyone on telegram, its a very easy pray hunting for scammers there. I would say just don't invest in that mud.
People do not be naive, are you aware that these offers actually scream SCAM big as from here to the moon - no one normal will give you ten times more money then you deposit - I don't understand why some people even think it's possible.
Stay away from any Telegram, Twitter, Facebook, and any similar offers, these have become the platforms through which thieves operate, and once they get your coins, the game is over.
Stay away from any Telegram, Twitter, Facebook, and any similar offers, these have become the platforms through which thieves operate, and once they get your coins, the game is over.
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