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Topic: $10 straight clean arbitrage to be had going from Stamp to BTC-E.... - page 3. (Read 2875 times)

hero member
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How do you artificially hold up an exchange rate? If I wanted to sell my BTC I sell and that now means there are less dollars to buy any more BTC.

Right now, there exists an unusually large gap between Bid and Ask walls on Bistamp with unusually steep walls lining up at 815 and 825 respectively. In between them, there is not very much to speak off. However, all a bot (or a person) has to do is buy 0.01 BTC into the Ask wall, and that is the spot price at 825. So along comes Joe Bloggs to buy some Bitcoins and if he doesn't know any better, he thinks the price of a Bitcoin is 825, and puts in an order for 10 BTC @ 825, thus eating 10 BTC into the ask wall and probably taking the BTC from the bot owners account as their bots will ensure their coins are 1 cent cheaper than all the other coins on the wall. Thus the price is manipulated higher than the market wants it to be and the bot operators get to sell their coins at a higher price than everyone else.

But anytime there is any meaningful volume being shifted on Stamp at the moment, it is always at markedly lower prices than the spot price being maintained by algorithmic bot micro-trades. However as soon as an 80 BTC order goes through at $816, the bot orders 0.001 BTC at the ask wall, and the spot price is back up at 825 within a microsecond.
sr. member
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How do you artificially hold up an exchange rate? If I wanted to sell my BTC I sell and that now means there are less dollars to buy any more BTC.
hero member
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2 * .2% = .4%

1.2% - (2* .2% ) = 0.8%.

And actually it is a bit better than that.....

.....furthermore, any higher than decimal figures volume of BTC on Stamp is going for $3-5 less than the micro-transaction determined spot price on Stamp....so even more margin still, at least until you get your coins onto BTC-E and learn the hard way about trying to take small margins in bot controlled electronic markets.

Moral of the story is that there is no arbitrage and prices on all USD exchanges are being artificially held up for some reason. I never seen such blatantly mechanical trading across the respectable exchanges as I have witnessed today. Certainly this morning, on Bistamp, there was 1000 BTC of Asks standing between spot price and my Stop Loss buy orders. Now there is almost 2000.
N12
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You forgot about slippage.
hero member
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That's 1.2%. Wouldn't even be worth the fees and slippage.

2* 0.2% = 0.8%

Not bad for doing jack....except no way would anyone get any meaningful volume sold on BTC-e at the 'advertised' spot price. Most likely you would have to sell at a loss to get liquid again, before a bot 0.0034593456 BTC transaction sent the spot price to $10 over what you just sold at.

2 * .2% = .4%
hero member
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That's 1.2%. Wouldn't even be worth the fees and slippage.

2* 0.2% = 0.8%

Not bad for doing jack....except no way would anyone get any meaningful volume sold on BTC-e at the 'advertised' spot price. Most likely you would have to sell at a loss to get liquid again, before a bot 0.0034593456 BTC transaction sent the spot price to $10 over what you just sold at.
N12
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That's 1.2%. Wouldn't even be worth the fees and slippage.
hero member
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$10 straight clean arbitrage to be had going from Stamp to BTC-E....

.....if you reckon you could sneak any meaningful volume past the bots holding up the price on BTC-e.

I for one shall not be taking my chances.
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