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hero member
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January 26, 2012, 05:11:46 PM
#23
Ok, sorry for being defensive. I misperceived your intent.

kgo
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January 26, 2012, 04:59:10 PM
#22


It sucks for you because you expected to get what you were entitled to as the winner.


Sorry, rob, but it sucks for you.  For printcoin to be successful, it requires that people implicitly trust you.  Refusing to honor terms that you yourself set out calls that trust into question.   It won't be long before people start calling you a scammer in your printcoin threads.

[I don't say this as a threat, it's just the natural course of action on this forum.]

I did not make any gain off of this, so calling it a scam (and me a scammer) is very poor wording.

If anything, this is a breach of contract. I am willing to accept a reasonable penalty, and offered up $5.5 of the $30 that was his bid. He has not rejected that, and I am optimistic that this can be settled fairly.

I have made two attempts to work out a reasonable solution, and you should at least let him respond before tossing in your troll like messages.

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It won't be long before people start calling you a scammer in your printcoin threads.

[bla bla threat that isn't a threat, that really is a threat]
Bite me.

Bite me?  No that wasn't a veiled threat.  I never had the intention of personally complaining about you in other threads.

On this forum, I've repeatedly seen:

1) People get labeled scammers for bailing on deals, whether they actually had the intent to scam or just didn't follow through.

2) Angry victims or vigilantes go to every thread the alleged scammer has ever posted in, screaming aobut how this person is a scammer and you shouldn't do business with them.

This is probably not something you want to deal with if you're running a bitcoin business.  Furthermore, the defense that you were only in breach of contract, and not a full scammer, still essentially has the same effect on you and your business' reputation.

Most people don't believe either of your attempts generated a reasonable solution, and even if they did, Vitaliy's opinion is the only one that matters.  Since he hasn't accepted either offer, he clearly doesn't think the offers are reasonable.

I'm now wishing I hadn't sent bitcoins to both robkohr and kujoking7.
hero member
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January 26, 2012, 02:18:51 PM
#21


It sucks for you because you expected to get what you were entitled to as the winner.


Sorry, rob, but it sucks for you.  For printcoin to be successful, it requires that people implicitly trust you.  Refusing to honor terms that you yourself set out calls that trust into question.   It won't be long before people start calling you a scammer in your printcoin threads.

[I don't say this as a threat, it's just the natural course of action on this forum.]

I did not make any gain off of this, so calling it a scam (and me a scammer) is very poor wording.

If anything, this is a breach of contract. I am willing to accept a reasonable penalty, and offered up $5.5 of the $30 that was his bid. He has not rejected that, and I am optimistic that this can be settled fairly.

I have made two attempts to work out a reasonable solution, and you should at least let him respond before tossing in your troll like messages.

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It won't be long before people start calling you a scammer in your printcoin threads.

[bla bla threat that isn't a threat, that really is a threat]
Bite me.
kgo
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January 26, 2012, 10:44:39 AM
#20


It sucks for you because you expected to get what you were entitled to as the winner.


Sorry, rob, but it sucks for you.  For printcoin to be successful, it requires that people implicitly trust you.  Refusing to honor terms that you yourself set out calls that trust into question.   It won't be long before people start calling you a scammer in your printcoin threads.

[I don't say this as a threat, it's just the natural course of action on this forum.]
legendary
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January 25, 2012, 09:53:48 PM
#19
what happened? did he get his gift card ?

I pmed him but haven't heard back.

The OP's PM stated that he couldn't honor the final bid of $30 for this gift card but that he would like an "offer somewhere near the actual gift card price".

Well this is an auction, so my bid was my 'offer'. If you did not want to sell it at that price, then you should either have set a larger starting bid or a stated a minimum reserve, both of which you did not do.

IMO, this is untrustworthy behavior.

You are right. I made a mistake and should have put in some type of reserve. I had no idea that the bid was going to be anything nearly as low as it turned out.

It sucks for you because you expected to get what you were entitled to as the winner.

Would a bitcoin be fair as a way to make it up to you?

How about $30 worth of Bitcoins to match his bid?
hero member
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January 25, 2012, 09:47:25 PM
#18
what happened? did he get his gift card ?

I pmed him but haven't heard back.

The OP's PM stated that he couldn't honor the final bid of $30 for this gift card but that he would like an "offer somewhere near the actual gift card price".

Well this is an auction, so my bid was my 'offer'. If you did not want to sell it at that price, then you should either have set a larger starting bid or a stated a minimum reserve, both of which you did not do.

IMO, this is untrustworthy behavior.

You are right. I made a mistake and should have put in some type of reserve. I had no idea that the bid was going to be anything nearly as low as it turned out.

It sucks for you because you expected to get what you were entitled to as the winner.

Would a bitcoin be fair as a way to make it up to you?
sr. member
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January 25, 2012, 04:07:20 PM
#17
what happened? did he get his gift card ?

I pmed him but haven't heard back.

The OP's PM stated that he couldn't honor the final bid of $30 for this gift card but that he would like an "offer somewhere near the actual gift card price".

Well this is an auction, so my bid was my 'offer'. If you did not want to sell it at that price, then you should either have set a larger starting bid or a stated a minimum reserve, both of which you did not do.

IMO, this is untrustworthy behavior.
hero member
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January 24, 2012, 11:43:21 PM
#16
what happened? did he get his gift card ?

I pmed him but haven't heard back.
hero member
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January 24, 2012, 05:57:59 PM
#15
what happened? did he get his gift card ?
hero member
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January 22, 2012, 01:17:18 PM
#14
Sent a PM to Vitaliy to see if we can work this out.
legendary
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January 22, 2012, 12:59:44 PM
#13
so did he win ?

or there is a rule that says " i reserve the right to refuse/cancel " ?
i guess the seller is just butthurt? :p
hero member
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January 21, 2012, 03:55:31 PM
#12
so did he win ?

or there is a rule that says " i reserve the right to refuse/cancel " ?
sr. member
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January 21, 2012, 02:55:03 PM
#11
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Bidding starts at 30USD and is made in increments of at least 1USD.

You should start with a higher starting bid then.
legendary
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January 21, 2012, 02:53:13 PM
#10
Have I won?

I am sorry but I cannot sell a $100 card for $30.
you never stated that there was a reserve. it was just an auction.
hero member
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January 21, 2012, 02:45:19 PM
#9
Have I won?

I am sorry but I cannot sell a $100 card for $30.
sr. member
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QUIFAS EXCHANGE
January 21, 2012, 01:50:09 AM
#8
$6
sr. member
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January 21, 2012, 12:06:12 AM
#7
Have I won?
hero member
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January 09, 2012, 01:50:46 PM
#6
nudge.
sr. member
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January 03, 2012, 10:21:37 AM
#5
I guess you are right. Please consider that section removed as I can't edit it at this point.

Okay, I bid $30.
hero member
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January 03, 2012, 10:15:59 AM
#4
If you would like to make a private bid you may contact me via private message.

You should remove this, auctions should be public, otherwise a seller can claim that they've received a higher bid via pm if they don't like the ending price.

I guess you are right. Please consider that section removed as I can't edit it at this point.
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