100 watt or less miner.. With 16nm Chips..

valkir

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Quote from: sidehack on December 17, 2018, 09:07:04 AM

And I wish NewPacs sold worth a darn and coin was still around $7k. What you want would be a lot easier to accomplish.

Dont get me wrong Sidehack. It was not a complain at all. You are doing a super job. Got myself a newpac. Now have 2 first generation, 1 second and the newpac. All working super well on the hub. Grin

Let me know if I can do anything to help you business

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Curmudgeonly hardware guy

And I wish NewPacs sold worth a darn and coin was still around $7k. What you want would be a lot easier to accomplish.

valkir

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I am also looking for a 100-200 watt machine. Not easy to find one. Will check the ltc one for sure but I which Sidehack would di a small pod with around 100-200 w Grin

Hijack333

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The fun is to get involved in BTC mining, learn about how it works.
Setting up a miner and searching for a pool, realizing that you only earn dust, maybe renting hash for a payout or trying another more frequent pool, trying your luck at solo mining and watching the share heights....
Being part of the decentralized BTC economy. BTC is more than just a way to make money.

We need more people that are interested in BTC and not the dollars that they get with BTC.

How can you trust a currency if you do not really know how it works. I bet the most people that got in BTC since end of 2017 do not even understand what a mining pool is or a share...

And not only for the people that are new to BTC, also for the people that are a long time in BTC and never mined.
A solo mining option integrated is also interesting for people that want to gamble.
Also for heating purpose, like i said. 100watt keeps a room warm here in europe.
The Prospero x1 was, silent, nice looking and solid.
Imagine such device with good technology in end of 2017 when there was a great demand and interest.
You could have sold this rigs to supermarkets Lips sealed

Its all about timing. The product was nice but the timing not good so the company got broke.

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Evil beware: We have waffles!

But without earnings, what is the point of BTC mining as a hobby?
Unlike the good 'ol pre-ASIC days once a miner is setup it is very much a hands-off operation with virtually no user interaction at all. Sure ya can watch the blinking lights but that is not particularly exciting...

The only current incentive for mining is the block rewards and unless a miner is fast enough to earn more than dust where is the fun? That is unless the miner is pointed at a Lottery pool and your horse comes in, then, CHACHING! BTCBTCBTC Wink

Hijack333

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Hi, and thanks for the info so far.
But its not really what i search for, i am actually looking for a sha256 device like the Prospero X1 but with newer chip technology .

I think if mining gets less income in future more people will mine as a hobby and there will be a demand for small low energy devices.
Even now there is a demand in places where electricity costs more than 30cents per kWh. So you do not look what your income is, you look that your hobby is not too expensive. Wink

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Right now (literally right now) I'm working on getting a single chip talking. Once that's done, it won't be difficult to make two, ten or a hundred work together. The R808 failed mostly because of manufacturing issues but it also wasn't that good because of chip efficiency.

If I build anything larger than an improved Terminus, it'll be new boards for an S1/3/5 chassis. With improved heatsinking (like some S3 had) and adjustable voltage and clocking, they should be able to run pretty quietly.

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Quote from: sidehack on December 06, 2018, 11:03:50 AM

Talking about jstefanop's Apollo? I've been meaning to follow up with that guy for a while. He does good work.

Stickminers are all I got right now, and I'm just about the only one in the world still building them. In the last year or so I've seen two other outfits come out with stickminers, but they were both Chinese clones of my designs.

My Terminus R808 from the first part of this year was the first sub-100W miner in a long time but it wasn't very good so was discontinued. I'm currently working with Bitmain's BM1387 on the stickminer but that chip is EOL so something new must be had for a close-to-viable updated design. But I'll let you know, it's already in the works.

your new sticks are pretty good. dont use a lot of power and are stable.

jstefanop's apollo should show up at my house in the next few days. it should be the most efficient ltc miner on the market.

I am hoping you build a 200-400 watt quiet 256 miner with new chips.

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Quote from: adaseb on September 28, 2016, 10:26:11 AM

You can always buy an S7-LN, undervolt and throw out the other blade and you'll have a 200W miner.

I have 3x S7-LN to spare.
Great space heater
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtscanada-garage-sale-s7-ln-d3-r4-moonlander-2-4896790

Super cheap.

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Talking about jstefanop's Apollo? I've been meaning to follow up with that guy for a while. He does good work.

Stickminers are all I got right now, and I'm just about the only one in the world still building them. In the last year or so I've seen two other outfits come out with stickminers, but they were both Chinese clones of my designs.

My Terminus R808 from the first part of this year was the first sub-100W miner in a long time but it wasn't very good so was discontinued. I'm currently working with Bitmain's BM1387 on the stickminer but that chip is EOL so something new must be had for a close-to-viable updated design. But I'll let you know, it's already in the works.

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Quote from: Hijack333 on December 06, 2018, 09:01:28 AM

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NotFuzzyWarm

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Is it possible to build a 100w miner? Sure. Just use only a few chips -- like the stick miners do. Will have near useless speed and be good only for Lottery mining (and being a small heater) though.

Hijack333

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I see the demand in near future. Wink

Do you think it is not possible to build a device in that power range?
Because of your real world physics? Grin

NotFuzzyWarm

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Quote from: Hijack333 on December 06, 2018, 09:01:28 AM

Every BTC user should be able to afford running a node and a small miner with a low energy consumption. I think that this really was the vision for BTC.

And I'd like to fly and spit diamonds -- don't see that happening either.
Ain't it a bitch when real-world physics get in the way? Wink

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Quote from: philipma1957 on December 06, 2018, 08:37:34 AM

well there is a ltc miner that works it is very efficient but costly.

manufacturer, product name?

Quote from: philipma1957 on December 06, 2018, 08:37:34 AM

Sidehacks new sticks are decent.

But not for 50-200watt and you have to run a extra system. Undecided

I really wonder why there is no manufacturer to invest in producing a small device that people can run in solo mode without paying huge amounts of electricity. Mining should be more decentralized. Every BTC user should be able to afford running a node and a small miner with a low energy consumption. I think that this really was the vision for BTC.

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Quote from: Hijack333 on December 06, 2018, 07:16:14 AM

Something new here maybe with 7nm chips?
The only rig with 100watt is the old Prospero x1 with 100ghs and 1watt/ghs...
I want to heat a room and not a house... Grin

Stickminer are not worth it and the antrouter with sha256 is too expensive and also not what i need.
Is there really no market for a low energy sha256miner around 100watt Huh

well there is a ltc miner that works it is very efficient but costly.

Sidehacks new sticks are decent.

but there is no miner for sha256 in the 100 watt area I know of

Hijack333

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Something new here maybe with 7nm chips?
The only rig with 100watt is the old Prospero x1 with 100ghs and 1watt/ghs...
I want to heat a room and not a house... Grin

Stickminer are not worth it and the antrouter with sha256 is too expensive and also not what i need.
Is there really no market for a low energy sha256miner around 100watt Huh

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Super excited to by USB or Pod miners Cheesy

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toptek

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nice just found the thread .

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Quote from: sidehack on October 08, 2016, 10:10:45 AM

It won't be round. CPU heatsinks sounds most interesting but I specifically said I won't be making it CPU heatsink compatible so it doesn't really matter. It'll run in the same power range as a U3 and hook up similarly, but get a buttload more hashrate.

The TypeZero will run in the same power range as the S1, stock probably hotter than S1 but less than S5. Should be better for a home miner than something that draws 1400W wall.

Can not wait to get some.

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