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Topic: [~1000 GH/sec] BTC Guild - 0% Fee Pool, LP, SSL, Full Precision, and More - page 20. (Read 379084 times)

newbie
Activity: 45
Merit: 0
I'm currently unable to mine with either useast or uswest. What's up?
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Ad Removal has just gone up to 1% donation???  What the hell?

Well, I can say that as a result of this fee that is masked as a "donation", my friends and I are now "donating" 0%.  We'll deal with the ads...

Thanks.
legendary
Activity: 1750
Merit: 1007
Yet another attempt by the larger botnet to get back onto US Central and West.  94,000 new IPs connected to the pool in the last 3 hours.  Just sent a list of the known bot IPs to our colo provider to get them filtered at the edge of the network.

UPDATE:  Final count before the new filters kicked in was 139,000 new IP addresses.  Anyone with experience with servers knows that trying to hold open 139,000 persistent connections while dealing with 150k opening/closing connections on top of it is going to cause...issues.
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1001
Radix-The Decentralized Finance Protocol
There appears to be a problem with long polling.

I reset my stats too, and I noticed that some miners have many stales, but other miners have zero.  So, I looked at a box with two cards, one that was showing stales, and the other with zero.  The one with zero stales saw two LPs at 15:21 and 15:23 (central US time), while the one with several stales had rejections around those times.

If I had to guess, I would say return of the botnet.

There are connection problems. My miners are showing a lot of disconnections from the servers. The speed of the whole pool has gone under 2000Gh/s and Im guessing it is because of these problems. Are we getting DDOS by an angry botnet owner again?

Eleuthria, thanks for fixing last share.
kjj
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1026
There appears to be a problem with long polling.

I reset my stats too, and I noticed that some miners have many stales, but other miners have zero.  So, I looked at a box with two cards, one that was showing stales, and the other with zero.  The one with zero stales saw two LPs at 15:21 and 15:23 (central US time), while the one with several stales had rejections around those times.

If I had to guess, I would say return of the botnet.
sr. member
Activity: 404
Merit: 250
reset my stats an hour or so ago.  just checked on workers and they are all showing 4-5% stale!!!  what the hell...

looks like after a block is solved i get a huge amount of stales!!

That would be when you generally would get stales. What miner do you use?

POCLBM always worked brilliantly with Guild for me. CGMiner always works brilliantly with every pool for me.
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
reset my stats an hour or so ago.  just checked on workers and they are all showing 4-5% stale!!!  what the hell...

looks like after a block is solved i get a huge amount of stales!!
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
reset my stats an hour or so ago.  just checked on workers and they are all showing 4-5% stale!!!  what the hell...
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1001
Radix-The Decentralized Finance Protocol
Eleuthria, the last share has started going over 2 minutes regularely for me, while some weeks ago it would not go over 1 minute. Now it stays around 1 minute and a half by default. The speed of the worker and the rewards are what they should be, so I keep wondering what is changing that gives a different last share value.

Those who are going after the botnets are probably backed by security and police agencies. They aren't going to scan known address ranges so that cuts down on a lot of targets. Secondly, they could probably monitor/scan traffic at the ISP level for bitcoin traffic and figure out who is hosting a pool.

Yes, they could infect one machine on purpose and check where the virus is sending the shares. I dont see how a botnet owner can have its own pool and keep it secret.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
I keep wondering why botnet owners are too lazy to setup their own pool, you know you'll get banned eventually.

Wouldnt this make them vulnerable to being discovered? Is there anyway to set up an anonymous pool?


I would think the only way to discover bitcoin pools (and only the ones that are setup with default ports) would be to scan 1.1.1.1 - 255.255.255.255 for port 8332 being open

Those who are going after the botnets are probably backed by security and police agencies. They aren't going to scan known address ranges so that cuts down on a lot of targets. Secondly, they could probably monitor/scan traffic at the ISP level for bitcoin traffic and figure out who is hosting a pool.
sr. member
Activity: 418
Merit: 250
I keep wondering why botnet owners are too lazy to setup their own pool, you know you'll get banned eventually.

Wouldnt this make them vulnerable to being discovered? Is there anyway to set up an anonymous pool?


I would think the only way to discover bitcoin pools (and only the ones that are setup with default ports) would be to scan 1.1.1.1 - 255.255.255.255 for port 8332 being open
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1001
Radix-The Decentralized Finance Protocol
I keep wondering why botnet owners are too lazy to setup their own pool, you know you'll get banned eventually.

Wouldnt this make them vulnerable to being discovered? Is there anyway to set up an anonymous pool?

EDIT: I think something is wrong with the pool, we are having good luck.
kjj
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1026
Let me try this again.

For people that don't donate at least 2.5%, there is no difference (in the long run).  For people that do donate at least that much, and for the pool itself, there is a difference.  A huge difference.

As to your idea that he doesn't know what it means, that is obviously incorrect, which is very easy to demonstrate:  The biggest part of the incentive structure of this free pool is built around that difference.
That sentence "For ... run)." is ... again ... wrong. As my example showed.

So now I have an actual answer also - it is used as an incentive for people to pay a donation.
Yep that's a clear reason.

I'm not sure that you understand what I mean by "in the long run".  To be clear, it means "averaged over many rounds".

Yes, in any one round following an invalid block, some people will be up and some people will be down.  However, averaged over many rounds they should all be pretty much even.
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Let me try this again.

For people that don't donate at least 2.5%, there is no difference (in the long run).  For people that do donate at least that much, and for the pool itself, there is a difference.  A huge difference.

As to your idea that he doesn't know what it means, that is obviously incorrect, which is very easy to demonstrate:  The biggest part of the incentive structure of this free pool is built around that difference.
That sentence "For ... run)." is ... again ... wrong. As my example showed.

So now I have an actual answer also - it is used as an incentive for people to pay a donation.
Yep that's a clear reason.
kjj
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1026
Seriously, my theory is that whoever made that rule did not understand what an 'invalid block' is.
Because it is 'nothing' - it should not effect the payout - but it does.
Thus clearly misunderstood by whoever decided it should effect the payouts.

It has no effect on the amount of BTC received by the guild.
It has no effect on the share load on the guild.
Mathematically, it SHOULD have no effect on the payout of the guild.

It reduces the payouts for some.
Increases the payouts for others.
AND increases the payouts for the guild.

An example where it has made a difference: block 235891
Some people who worked on that who didn't have 2.5% donation got nothing.
Cause: the previous 'round' was an 'invalid block' and this 'round' was only 7 seconds.
No averaging will correct the lost amounts.

Yes there is a mathematical difference (though that was obvious from the start)

Edit: though I should add that your argument is in agreement with my suggestion that the pool should ignore them: " ... ... ... zero in the long run"

Let me try this again.

For people that don't donate at least 2.5%, there is no difference (in the long run).  For people that do donate at least that much, and for the pool itself, there is a difference.  A huge difference.

As to your idea that he doesn't know what it means, that is obviously incorrect, which is very easy to demonstrate:  The biggest part of the incentive structure of this free pool is built around that difference.
full member
Activity: 226
Merit: 100
My miners were on BTCguild as backup for some time, but when I check on the website now, there is nothing next to  "Estimated "Rewards" "Unconfirmed Rewards" and nothing next to "24 Hour Rewards". It's as if it never occured... I was checking the site while my miners were on backup (btcguild) and the site showed estimated/24 hour rewards as usual.

Estimated Rewards are calculated by your current mining speed (15 minute average) vs total pool speed, rather than shares in the round vs total, to stop pool hopping.

The round you were mining in is still going if it was that recent, so your estimated has dropped to 0 since your speed is currently 0.  Since the round hasn't ended [or it hasn't been announced due to the 1 hour delay], your unconfirmed hasn't gone up yet.

Makes perfect sense. Thank you for the fast reply!!!
legendary
Activity: 1750
Merit: 1007
My miners were on BTCguild as backup for some time, but when I check on the website now, there is nothing next to  "Estimated "Rewards" "Unconfirmed Rewards" and nothing next to "24 Hour Rewards". It's as if it never occured... I was checking the site while my miners were on backup (btcguild) and the site showed estimated/24 hour rewards as usual.

Estimated Rewards are calculated by your current mining speed (15 minute average) vs total pool speed, rather than shares in the round vs total, to stop pool hopping.

The round you were mining in is still going if it was that recent, so your estimated has dropped to 0 since your speed is currently 0.  Since the round hasn't ended [or it hasn't been announced due to the 1 hour delay], your unconfirmed hasn't gone up yet.
full member
Activity: 226
Merit: 100
My miners were on BTCguild as backup for some time, but when I check on the website now, there is nothing next to  "Estimated "Rewards" "Unconfirmed Rewards" and nothing next to "24 Hour Rewards". It's as if it never occured... I was checking the site while my miners were on backup (btcguild) and the site showed estimated/24 hour rewards as usual.

How long ago was it?

Estimated rewards applies to the current round.  Unconfirmed rewards applies to rounds in the previous 120 blocks.  24 Hour Rewards applies to the previous 24 hours.

Umm, it was around the time I wrote the message, not more than half an hour prior to that. So there should be something in Unconfirmed and 24 Hour rewards.
kjj
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1026
My miners were on BTCguild as backup for some time, but when I check on the website now, there is nothing next to  "Estimated "Rewards" "Unconfirmed Rewards" and nothing next to "24 Hour Rewards". It's as if it never occured... I was checking the site while my miners were on backup (btcguild) and the site showed estimated/24 hour rewards as usual.

How long ago was it?

Estimated rewards applies to the current round.  Unconfirmed rewards applies to rounds in the previous 120 blocks.  24 Hour Rewards applies to the previous 24 hours.
full member
Activity: 226
Merit: 100
My miners were on BTCguild as backup for some time, but when I check on the website now, there is nothing next to  "Estimated "Rewards" "Unconfirmed Rewards" and nothing next to "24 Hour Rewards". It's as if it never occured... I was checking the site while my miners were on backup (btcguild) and the site showed estimated/24 hour rewards as usual.
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