Topic: 10,000 stolen guns found in South Carolina - page 2. (Read 2505 times)

This is one of the different standards between a licensed concealed carrier and a cop. A cop is expected to go looking for trouble and chase down criminals. A CC licenses only allows you to protect yourself or someone in your "immediate presence".  You can't chase them, and in states without the castle doctrine (a.k.a. -stand your ground law) you MUST run away. Even if the attacker is in your home, you have to flee. If you stay and fight you might spend the rest of your life in jail.
This is why the castle doctrine is so important.


The two year old kidnapping may work as a defense. You could protect her if it is reasonable to think her life is in danger. A strange abduction is likely to meet that bar. If instead it was a rape then you have no right to shoot. This seems to surprise a lot of people, but rape is not necessarily life threatening. If a woman shoots some guy who is trying to rape her then she is a murderer.  You can use deadly force to protect your life, not your chastity.

It makes no sense to chase the guy. Well, unless it´s a desperate emergency like he´s leaving with your 2 yo daughter under his arm, something like that.

You don´t leave the fort after you´ve secured it. He could have accomplishes that you´re not aware of that´ll invade after you´ve been diverted away. Stay safe.

If it's not justified for a civilian to shoot a clearly armed fleeing felon under the same fundamental circumstances as LEOs specified in the ruling above, then fuck equal protection. Non-suicidal criminals drop their weapons and run.

Mr. Jacobs may be lucky he got shot instead of life in jail. Chasing a robber and shooting him is murder. You can "stand your ground" in most states, but you can't go after a fleeing attacker. As you point out, that is a job for the cops.

A lesson on what not to do comes out of East Mill Creek, Utah where 34-year-old Jesse L. Bruner tried to break into a home owned by 47-year-old Russell Reed Jacobs. Bruner was armed with a shotgun and Jacobs had his own firearm. Jacobs convinced Bruner to turn tail and run, but then Jacobs and his son chased his for a few blocks when Bruner turned and fired at Jacobs. Jacobs returned fire and both the criminal and the victim died right there. There was no rational reason for the homeowner to chase after the criminal – that’s what the police get paid to do with their body armor and everything....

Well what else are you gonna do with a bunch of guns? You either are going to use them or re-sell them for a good price

Man walks into jail, admits murder, gets turned away

11:27 a.m. EDT October 29, 2015

(NEWSER) — One cannot simply walk into the Santa Clara County jail, apparently.

Hugo Ernesto Castro tried to surrender at the facility in San Jose on Monday, but he was told to go elsewhere even after he had confessed to stabbing his ex-girlfriend and handed over a note revealing where her body was, reports the San Jose Mercury News. A deputy at the prison told the 28-year-old that he was in the wrong place and instructed him to walk two blocks to police headquarters, which he obligingly did. Police found the body of Castro's former girlfriend at the address he gave, and he was arrested, reports the San Francisco Chronicle.

The sheriff's office is trying to find out why the deputy didn't follow standard procedure and detain Castro or at least escort him to the police station.

"Once they leave, who knows what's going to happen next," a retired San Francisco police captain tells the Mercury News. "Maybe they go the two blocks and turn themselves in. Or maybe they have second thoughts, or go home and destroy evidence."

The deputy has been reassigned, the Mercury News reports, and Castro is now being held at the jail he went to in the first place.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/10/29/man-walks-into-jail-admits-murder-gets-turned-away/74798964/

There are thousands of weapon found in South Carolina.It started with a tip to authorities and ended with a raid at a South Carolina home, where investigators found thousands of weapons stashed inside.Now 51-year-old Brent Nicholson is behind bars on charges of possession of stolen property.The raid began Friday and continued over the weekend.

Yeah, that´s a knife. Nice job Dawn.

http://www.wwmt.com/news/features/national/stories/-Armed-robber-laughed-out-of-convenience-store-224364.shtml#.VjFJZLfhDUI

Wednesday morning feel good stories

First up this morning is Phoenix, Arizona where an armed private security guard interrupted a robbery in an auto-parts store. The thief un-assed the AO to his getaway car, but, he couldn’t leave well-enough alone. He pointed his firearm at the guard, but the guard was faster on the draw and made the thief DRT (dead right there).

In Orlando Florida, Tyrell Owens was toting his case of beer home when, outside his apartment he was confronted by an armed thief, Wilmar Jolteus, who demanded his beer. Owens wouldn’t give it up and Jolteus fired his weapon at Owens. Lucky for Owens, he had his own firearm and a permit to carry it concealed and he was able to dive for cover and return fire, striking Jolteus who un-assed the AO and, after a couple of trips and falls, jumped in his partner’s car. His partner dropped Jolteus at the hospital where he was arrested with wounds to his leg and buttocks. Orlando PD praised Owens for his quick thinking.

In Union County, South Carolina, Ralph Rice was awakened by a knock at his door. On his porch was four men, one of whom suffered from a gunshot. They asked Ralph for help for their wounded buddy. Then they dumped the injured man in a chair on Ralph’s porch and thanked him for calling the ambulance before they un-assed the AO. Apparently the man was shot in an exchange of gunfire with a homeowner in Winnsboro, South Carolina. I can’t find the article of the home invasion (there’s no accounting for local news directors’ preferences for news). So here’s the story of Ralph instead.

In Manchester, New Hampshire, Dawn Kahwaja a clerk at the local convenience store was confronted by a thief with a 3″ knife. She did a Crocodile Dundee and pulled out her own pig sticker which frightened off the criminal. “Now, that’s a noif!” Dawn’s advice to the criminal is “get a job!”

DocV sends us a link from Chicago, Illinois where former member of the UK’s Royal Air Force, and current student in Minneapolis, Neil McCarthy was with his girlfriend in the Windy City when they were confronted by three thugs who demanded their stuff. McCarthy handed it over, but they began accosting his girlfriend so he took their knife away after suffering a shoulder wound. then he chased after one of them who was cuffed and stuffed by the local PD.

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=62502

You mean, sort of like our BATF in their Fast and Furious scandal, where they were selling assault rifles to Mexican gangs?  (Which are still killing people, incidentally)

Wait, this guy never sold anyone a weapon....

I am just curious how one steals 10 thousand guns and doesn't sell any what was the point?

Sounds like a very classy guy. He has to be innocent.

He has been charged with trafficking in heroin and opium and has a lengthy record according to the sheriff.
And he runs a liquor store with his father.

I wonder what the guy was doing for a living. Because buying 10,000 guns, that's a substantial investment, even if buying cheap stolen goods. $20 a piece? That's $200,000. You can buy a nice house for that kind of money. It would have been a better choice.

10000 firearms... I'd love to have at least 1/100 of what he had

Looks like they were robbing hunters and hunting clubs. Almost all of the weapons were shotguns and hunting rifles. There were 250-300 taxidermy mounts, crossbows, ammunition, tools, air compressors and 4-wheelers. And 150 chain saws. Amazing.

This guy has to be very well known in the criminal community, as someone who will buy or trade stolen guns and other items, for cash, or more likely, for drugs...I wouldn't doubt they will discover many weapons were stolen from other states as well...It's guys like this that fuel burglaries, the illegal gun trade, killings, and addicts... It's just how it works in that world

Soooo... is that 7-10,000 counts of theft of a Firearm, and will this guy and his parents go to prison on a sentence of 1,000 years each?? Most likely not - just another Druggie that will get a hand slap...

Pretty good investment . Perhaps better than bitcoin in some cases.