Topic: [1050 TH] BitMinter.com [1% PPLNS,Pays TxFees +MergedMining,Stratum,GBT,vardiff] - page 321. (Read 837101 times)
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The king and the pawn go in the same box @ endgame
February 14, 2012, 06:51:32 PM
finally got my dual 5870 rig back up. now it's pushing 880 Mhash/s. Yays. Lets have a few more fast blocks!
February 14, 2012, 03:08:22 PM
Hmm would suck if it created some race condition which caused the network to halt. 
#DIV/0!
February 14, 2012, 03:05:08 PM
Theoretically, the entire bitcoin network might not find a block for over 2 weeks; if difficulty wouldnt be adjusted to 1 in such unbelievably unlikely scenario, it might even continue for decades. Actually it might anyway, I dont know what happens to difficulty if no blocks were to be found for 2 weeks.
Hmm would suck if it created some race condition which caused the network to halt.
February 14, 2012, 02:48:04 PM
For a more graphical representation of what DnT just said, have a look at this graph at Slush:
http://mining.bitcoin.cz/stats/graphs/
(scroll down to the bottom one)
Its a good illustration, but not to nitpick, but he shouldnt round to 100% as he does when you hover the mouse over the chart, because it never becomes 100%. Just really really close to it
Theoretically, the entire bitcoin network might not find a block for over 2 weeks; if difficulty wouldnt be adjusted to 1 in such unbelievably unlikely scenario, it might even continue for decades. Actually it might anyway, I dont know what happens to difficulty if no blocks were to be found for 2 weeks.
http://mining.bitcoin.cz/stats/graphs/
(scroll down to the bottom one)
Its a good illustration, but not to nitpick, but he shouldnt round to 100% as he does when you hover the mouse over the chart, because it never becomes 100%. Just really really close to it
Theoretically, the entire bitcoin network might not find a block for over 2 weeks; if difficulty wouldnt be adjusted to 1 in such unbelievably unlikely scenario, it might even continue for decades. Actually it might anyway, I dont know what happens to difficulty if no blocks were to be found for 2 weeks.
February 14, 2012, 02:29:58 PM
kjakman, our hero!
I just hope we never see a block like one I recall from sometime around October. I think it was BitMinter's 18th block or somewhere in that range. It took over 9 days and the CDF was 99.7% or 99.8%, if I recall correctly. We only had ~30 GH/s at the time, though.
I just hope we never see a block like one I recall from sometime around October. I think it was BitMinter's 18th block or somewhere in that range. It took over 9 days and the CDF was 99.7% or 99.8%, if I recall correctly. We only had ~30 GH/s at the time, though.
Question: how come the last 5% of a block takes significantly longer to mine?
Because there is no max. CDF isn't saying we "mined 95% or x%" of a block it is saying 95% of the time we should have solved the block by here. Another way to look at it is at 95% CDF only 5% of blocks are longer/worse. In the long run we expect the average block time to be 50% CDF and roughly half the blocks are shorter and roughly half the blocks are longer. There is no set min or max though.
You could solve a block in 1 share or you could have a 11 million, or 100 million, or even theoretically quadrillion share block. The odds start getting very unlikely (like 99.9999% CDF meaning only a 1 in 1 million chance of having worse luck). Then again people win the lottery. Lets hope we never run into a 99.99%+ monster.
Wow! Thanks for the explanation, now I'm really scared
February 14, 2012, 02:09:21 PM
kjakman, our hero!
I just hope we never see a block like one I recall from sometime around October. I think it was BitMinter's 18th block or somewhere in that range. It took over 9 days and the CDF was 99.7% or 99.8%, if I recall correctly. We only had ~30 GH/s at the time, though.
I just hope we never see a block like one I recall from sometime around October. I think it was BitMinter's 18th block or somewhere in that range. It took over 9 days and the CDF was 99.7% or 99.8%, if I recall correctly. We only had ~30 GH/s at the time, though.
Question: how come the last 5% of a block takes significantly longer to mine?
Because there is no max. CDF isn't saying we "mined 95% or x%" of a block it is saying 95% of the time we should have solved the block by here. Another way to look at it is at 95% CDF only 5% of blocks are longer/worse. In the long run we expect the average block time to be 50% CDF and roughly half the blocks are shorter and roughly half the blocks are longer. There is no set min or max though.
You could solve a block in 1 share or you could have a 11 million, or 100 million, or even theoretically quadrillion share block. The odds start getting very unlikely (like 99.9999% CDF meaning only a 1 in 1 million chance of having worse luck). Then again people win the lottery. Lets hope we never run into a 99.99%+ monster.
February 14, 2012, 02:07:19 PM
kjakman, our hero!
I just hope we never see a block like one I recall from sometime around October. I think it was BitMinter's 18th block or somewhere in that range. It took over 9 days and the CDF was 99.7% or 99.8%, if I recall correctly. We only had ~30 GH/s at the time, though.
I just hope we never see a block like one I recall from sometime around October. I think it was BitMinter's 18th block or somewhere in that range. It took over 9 days and the CDF was 99.7% or 99.8%, if I recall correctly. We only had ~30 GH/s at the time, though.
Question: how come the last 5% of a block takes significantly longer to mine?
February 14, 2012, 02:05:17 PM
Maybe if Dr. H gets some time he could implement a block hall of fame with the 10 shortest and 10 longest blocks on a CDF basis either just for BTC or BTC and NMC.
Alternatively could show it is shortest/longest block (nominal shares), shortest/longest block (time), shortest/longest block (CDF).
At same time how about "best lucky/unlucky streak" = max # of sequential blocks either all over or all under 50% CDF.
Alternatively could show it is shortest/longest block (nominal shares), shortest/longest block (time), shortest/longest block (CDF).
At same time how about "best lucky/unlucky streak" = max # of sequential blocks either all over or all under 50% CDF.
February 14, 2012, 12:28:02 PM
kjakman, our hero!
I just hope we never see a block like one I recall from sometime around October. I think it was BitMinter's 18th block or somewhere in that range. It took over 9 days and the CDF was 99.7% or 99.8%, if I recall correctly. We only had ~30 GH/s at the time, though.
I just hope we never see a block like one I recall from sometime around October. I think it was BitMinter's 18th block or somewhere in that range. It took over 9 days and the CDF was 99.7% or 99.8%, if I recall correctly. We only had ~30 GH/s at the time, though.
February 14, 2012, 11:00:43 AM
FINALLY! Come on short ones!!!
February 14, 2012, 10:45:59 AM
Finally!!!
February 14, 2012, 04:58:53 AM
Maybe once the block goes over 90%, the fees go to the solver?
February 14, 2012, 03:27:42 AM
Id really like to see a block finding bonus for long blocks, to lure some big miners and help us out when our luck is turning sour.
Now we are seeing the opposite, we are have having 2 or 3 (really) long blocks, and as a result hash rate goes down, making a bad situation worse.
If we could offer a bounty, we might see the opposite. And since anyone of us could win the bounty, it would hardly cost us anything.
Now we are seeing the opposite, we are have having 2 or 3 (really) long blocks, and as a result hash rate goes down, making a bad situation worse.
If we could offer a bounty, we might see the opposite. And since anyone of us could win the bounty, it would hardly cost us anything.
February 14, 2012, 12:32:44 AM
BTW, what do you do with NMCs? Don't see much demand for them.
I sometimes trade NMC for BTC at Vircurex.
I slipped a referral link in there. :-)
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The king and the pawn go in the same box @ endgame
February 14, 2012, 12:32:11 AM
Awesome work sir! Doing a fresh install of Vista and new drivers on my end, see if I cant pull 850 Mhash out of my pair of 5870's
February 14, 2012, 12:22:28 AM
never seen that one D&T. I'm trying to get 2 5870's to cooperate in windows vista...Bitminter is only recognizing one card, and I tried GUI miner, and it also only recognized 1. they both show up in hardware manager though.
Looks like it is a bug on cgminer 2.2.5 something to do w/ dynamic intensity (which I had on by accident). Setting static intensity of 9 made the bug go away.
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The king and the pawn go in the same box @ endgame
February 14, 2012, 12:20:35 AM
never seen that one D&T. I'm trying to get 2 5870's to cooperate in windows vista...Bitminter is only recognizing one card, and I tried GUI miner, and it also only recognized 1. they both show up in hardware manager though.
February 13, 2012, 10:17:06 PM
Has anyone else been noticing rejects due to duplicate work? Never seen them before and now I get a whole bunch 
Just recently upgraded to cgminer 2.2.5 so maybe that has something to do with it
Code:
[2012-02-13 19:11:24] Accepted 00000000.2619a155.ed384bea GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:11:38] Accepted 00000000.8838a80d.96c958d4 GPU 0 thread 0
[2012-02-13 19:11:47] Accepted 00000000.214556b0.ba092fd5 GPU 0 thread 0
[2012-02-13 19:12:00] Accepted 00000000.9975d582.daf96e80 GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:12:00] Accepted 00000000.d297def1.91edf24f GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:12:02] Accepted 00000000.573f7c77.06d0fc66 GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:12:06] Accepted 00000000.f2ee24c9.e04e32cb GPU 0 thread 0
[2012-02-13 19:12:17] Rejected 00000000.f2ee24c9.e04e32cb GPU 0 thread 0 (Duplicate proof of work)
[2012-02-13 19:12:30] Accepted 00000000.1bf59c07.3c7f586f GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:12:32] Accepted 00000000.e532e770.a05bf028 GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:12:38] Accepted 00000000.08a9e3d4.924dda98 GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:12:38] Accepted 00000000.394f1fd3.69766f8b GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:12:40] Accepted 00000000.37baeeb8.9ff952b9 GPU 0 thread 0
[2012-02-13 19:12:44] Accepted 00000000.4bd24021.be829d7f GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:12:45] Accepted 00000000.3d2a6b7b.1c084ace GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:12:51] Accepted 00000000.ae0ffa31.6be7d934 GPU 0 thread 0
[2012-02-13 19:12:58] Accepted 00000000.3a0ae6e9.a45bf70b GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:13:06] Accepted 00000000.7cec99e2.261908de GPU 0 thread 0
[2012-02-13 19:13:06] Accepted 00000000.f1876059.5632d07f GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:13:09] Accepted 00000000.e99d4580.8e65208a GPU 0 thread 0
[2012-02-13 19:13:11] Accepted 00000000.11d37c47.d18b4acc GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:13:19] Accepted 00000000.1a280744.98022220 GPU 0 thread 0
[2012-02-13 19:13:22] Accepted 00000000.873664ef.0111697a GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:13:31] Rejected 00000000.1a280744.98022220 GPU 0 thread 0 (Duplicate proof of work)
[2012-02-13 19:13:50] Accepted 00000000.79fb7bad.6b775f75 GPU 0 thread 0
[2012-02-13 19:13:54] Accepted 00000000.21e40877.39880863 GPU 0 thread 0
[2012-02-13 19:13:57] Accepted 00000000.3f627669.a5e15dde GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:14:02] Accepted 00000000.da047662.f1b31d69 GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:14:08] Accepted 00000000.becd9e94.675d42ec GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:14:13] Accepted 00000000.6030ccf8.7c393ded GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:14:15] Accepted 00000000.20edc5a5.2cec4640 GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:14:16] Accepted 00000000.bbc6d677.ae2bd3b0 GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:14:21] Accepted 00000000.c7e82506.3858ace8 GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:14:24] Accepted 00000000.eafb918c.1429db5d GPU 0 thread 0
[2012-02-13 19:14:26] Accepted 00000000.7b59f5c8.9a141209 GPU 0 thread 0
[2012-02-13 19:14:29] Accepted 00000000.0f9659d9.dcee6c6b GPU 0 thread 0
[2012-02-13 19:14:38] Accepted 00000000.48ac059c.177c87e6 GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:14:39] Accepted 00000000.773bef37.282f8829 GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:14:39] Accepted 00000000.f7ef4cdb.7e200dc7 GPU 0 thread 0
[2012-02-13 19:14:40] Rejected 00000000.0f9659d9.dcee6c6b GPU 0 thread 0 (Duplicate proof of work)
[2012-02-13 19:14:51] Rejected 00000000.f7ef4cdb.7e200dc7 GPU 0 thread 0 (Duplicate proof of work)
[2012-02-13 19:14:56] Accepted 00000000.1d239039.73151bc4 GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:11:38] Accepted 00000000.8838a80d.96c958d4 GPU 0 thread 0
[2012-02-13 19:11:47] Accepted 00000000.214556b0.ba092fd5 GPU 0 thread 0
[2012-02-13 19:12:00] Accepted 00000000.9975d582.daf96e80 GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:12:00] Accepted 00000000.d297def1.91edf24f GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:12:02] Accepted 00000000.573f7c77.06d0fc66 GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:12:06] Accepted 00000000.f2ee24c9.e04e32cb GPU 0 thread 0
[2012-02-13 19:12:17] Rejected 00000000.f2ee24c9.e04e32cb GPU 0 thread 0 (Duplicate proof of work)
[2012-02-13 19:12:30] Accepted 00000000.1bf59c07.3c7f586f GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:12:32] Accepted 00000000.e532e770.a05bf028 GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:12:38] Accepted 00000000.08a9e3d4.924dda98 GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:12:38] Accepted 00000000.394f1fd3.69766f8b GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:12:40] Accepted 00000000.37baeeb8.9ff952b9 GPU 0 thread 0
[2012-02-13 19:12:44] Accepted 00000000.4bd24021.be829d7f GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:12:45] Accepted 00000000.3d2a6b7b.1c084ace GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:12:51] Accepted 00000000.ae0ffa31.6be7d934 GPU 0 thread 0
[2012-02-13 19:12:58] Accepted 00000000.3a0ae6e9.a45bf70b GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:13:06] Accepted 00000000.7cec99e2.261908de GPU 0 thread 0
[2012-02-13 19:13:06] Accepted 00000000.f1876059.5632d07f GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:13:09] Accepted 00000000.e99d4580.8e65208a GPU 0 thread 0
[2012-02-13 19:13:11] Accepted 00000000.11d37c47.d18b4acc GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:13:19] Accepted 00000000.1a280744.98022220 GPU 0 thread 0
[2012-02-13 19:13:22] Accepted 00000000.873664ef.0111697a GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:13:31] Rejected 00000000.1a280744.98022220 GPU 0 thread 0 (Duplicate proof of work)
[2012-02-13 19:13:50] Accepted 00000000.79fb7bad.6b775f75 GPU 0 thread 0
[2012-02-13 19:13:54] Accepted 00000000.21e40877.39880863 GPU 0 thread 0
[2012-02-13 19:13:57] Accepted 00000000.3f627669.a5e15dde GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:14:02] Accepted 00000000.da047662.f1b31d69 GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:14:08] Accepted 00000000.becd9e94.675d42ec GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:14:13] Accepted 00000000.6030ccf8.7c393ded GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:14:15] Accepted 00000000.20edc5a5.2cec4640 GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:14:16] Accepted 00000000.bbc6d677.ae2bd3b0 GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:14:21] Accepted 00000000.c7e82506.3858ace8 GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:14:24] Accepted 00000000.eafb918c.1429db5d GPU 0 thread 0
[2012-02-13 19:14:26] Accepted 00000000.7b59f5c8.9a141209 GPU 0 thread 0
[2012-02-13 19:14:29] Accepted 00000000.0f9659d9.dcee6c6b GPU 0 thread 0
[2012-02-13 19:14:38] Accepted 00000000.48ac059c.177c87e6 GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:14:39] Accepted 00000000.773bef37.282f8829 GPU 1 thread 2
[2012-02-13 19:14:39] Accepted 00000000.f7ef4cdb.7e200dc7 GPU 0 thread 0
[2012-02-13 19:14:40] Rejected 00000000.0f9659d9.dcee6c6b GPU 0 thread 0 (Duplicate proof of work)
[2012-02-13 19:14:51] Rejected 00000000.f7ef4cdb.7e200dc7 GPU 0 thread 0 (Duplicate proof of work)
[2012-02-13 19:14:56] Accepted 00000000.1d239039.73151bc4 GPU 1 thread 2
Just recently upgraded to cgminer 2.2.5 so maybe that has something to do with it
February 13, 2012, 09:29:22 PM
Where do you find the instructions for joining using hashkill? Also do you still have 0% fees and share the transaction fees?
February 13, 2012, 08:13:02 PM
Or you can hoard them in hopes they end up being worth more...
PS. WTF BLOCK??!?
PS. WTF BLOCK??!?
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