1070 Ti benchmarked in Eth & Zec - page 2.

sundownz

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Quote from: sundownz on November 02, 2017, 09:07:42 PM

I currently have 1060s, 1070s, 1080s, and one 1080Ti.

I pre-ordered a few 1070-Ti.

I mine on ZPOOL on profit switching so... I think I will make a sheet showing the ZPOOL algos on each card vs. the cost... for my own reasons of course but I will share it when complete.

It may have a few specialties... for example the 1080s are great on a ton of algos where most folks don't consider them since they are bad at ETH.

Hey guys,

I did some cost vs. hash power analysis of all my system types...

4x 1060
3x 1070
3x 1070 Ti (currently just one installed... I multiplied it out for the total system cost / production)
3x 1080

I do have one system with a single 1080 Ti that I'll throw in the mix later (it's at home so I don't have the data in front of me).

This is JUST *cost* per "work unit" (whatever that is per algo) -- not factoring in power cost (I'll add that in later when I have time).

Basically... the 1060 systems clean house EVEN when I figure in the cost of the computer itself in nearly every category in terms of up-front costs per work unit.

And a surprise... the 1070 Ti is a *better* value than the regular 1070 at current pricing on almost all algos (except Equihash). I listed the price I used per card which is the best I can find at this time per card type.

Now... I didn't agonize over optimized every card. I simply gave them all the same 85% power rate and some basic overclocking... I did this for my reference mostly as I wanted to be sure building with 1060s is what I wanted to keep doing (and it is).

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Quote from: dandreark1 on November 04, 2017, 02:22:57 PM

tune a 1080ti the right way and it makes these cards look dumb. Doesn't make sense to me, it's like pissing in the wind..

I like my 1080 ti cards but show me ONE that can manage better than 4.2 efficiency - and the settings to get there.

1080 ti is the hashrate king hands down (unless you want to spend crazy money for a Titan or a Tesla) but it's NOT the effciency king.

Hash/$ at the SYSTEM level it's pretty close either way between the 1070, 1070 ti , 1080, and 1080 ti - unless NVidia decides it NEEDS to answer the recent Vega price drop and drops the 1070/1070ti/1080 prices to stay competative.

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Quote from: jimlite on November 05, 2017, 02:00:37 PM

But 1070ti will be better at memory based algos like ETH / dagger than 1080. So the 1070ti is still the best all around every algo card for the price and watts. Yes if you are ONLY mining ETH go for 1070 or 1070ti, if you are only mining zec go for 1080 or 1080ti, but if you are mining many different algos over the next few years, 1070ti seems the best bet and value.

I think the improvement over the regular version is marginal.
Not an important car IMHO.

I'm sticking with 1080tis.

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But 1070ti will be better at memory based algos like ETH / dagger than 1080. So the 1070ti is still the best all around every algo card for the price and watts. Yes if you are ONLY mining ETH go for 1070 or 1070ti, if you are only mining zec go for 1080 or 1080ti, but if you are mining many different algos over the next few years, 1070ti seems the best bet and value.

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According the results GTX1080 seems better than GTX1070Ti for core based algos like Equihash. The price of both a practically the same, power consumption also the same. Now my choise is GTX1080 not 1070Ti

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lunobird,
If all you are mining is ZEC and your electric cost is very low, then maybe 1080 ti makes more sense then 1070 ti.
But for ETH the 1070ti is same speed due to lower latency memory which eth likes. And if you are going to be mining many different algos, the 1070ti is the most efficient and diverse card. I own a couple 1070, 1080 and 1080ti cards and know that 1080 sucks for eth due to its memory, the 1070 is faster at eth. The biggest issue is the 1080ti is about $250 more than a 1070ti for the almost the same performance in every algo but zec, or a little slower, but faster at eth. The HUGE issue is that any of these 3 gpus will make you about $1.50-$2.50/day, then subtract energy costs of $.50-$1/day and you get a profit of $1-$1.50/day per gpu. So it would take 200 to 250 days to make up the difference in cost between the 1070ti and 1080ti, that is why I hardly think a 1080ti is a good choice unless you are slot or motherboard limited. A 1080ti is going to take over a year just to ROI itself.

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Quote from: QuintLeo on November 04, 2017, 02:04:42 PM

Quote from: BlockMedx on November 04, 2017, 08:03:03 AM

Slightly disappointing unfortunately. I think people should be sticking to the 1080ti for ETH and ZEC. The 1070ti just isn't cutting it, apparently

The 1080ti is a BAD choice for ETH, but a decent one for ZEC.
WAY too expen$ive for the 35ish Mhash it can manage on ETH, when AMD RX 470/480/570/580 cards can pull more than DOUBLE the hash/$ at recent pricing.

1070ti is a GOOD ZEC card, in my testing of various cards it achieves THE highest efficiency (by a little) of any card in existance - though you can't build rigs as DENSE as you can with the 1080 ti.

I agree the 1080Ti is still the best for ZEC mining if you consider the total rig cost.

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nice test thank you

but i dont get why 1070 ti worse than 1070 ? because gtc ti gpu's are better than normal gtx, it just 30-32MH/s 450-465 Sol/s. the difference is very little. it makes 1070 ti worse than 1070 if compared the price/performance criterion.

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Quote from: jimlite on November 04, 2017, 04:10:38 PM

Quote from: dandreark1 on November 04, 2017, 02:22:57 PM

tune a 1080ti the right way and it makes these cards look dumb. Doesn't make sense to me, it's like pissing in the wind..

A 1080ti is $800, a 1070ti is $450. Two 1070tis get WAY MORE HASH for about the same watts as a 1080 ti. You need to mine for like a year to just ROI on an $800 gpu, ROIing on a $450 gpu is a little quicker.

Stop inflating those numbers. 1080 ti is $730 msi gaming (decent quality)
https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GTX-1080-TI-GAMING/dp/B06XVG7M23/ref=sr_1_6?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1509838282&sr=1-6&keywords=1080+ti&dpID=516O0cdlnYL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

1070 ti of same quality is $470
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Scanner-Graphics-08G-P4-5671-KR/dp/B076S4RH6K/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1509838319&sr=1-2&keywords=1070+ti+gaming&dpID=51PLpT-02fL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

1080 ti is only 36 percent more expensive and im sure it hashes at least 36 percent better than the 1070 ti if not better for equihash.

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Quote from: dandreark1 on November 04, 2017, 02:22:57 PM

tune a 1080ti the right way and it makes these cards look dumb. Doesn't make sense to me, it's like pissing in the wind..

A 1080ti is $800, a 1070ti is $450. Two 1070tis get WAY MORE HASH for about the same watts as a 1080 ti. You need to mine for like a year to just ROI on an $800 gpu, ROIing on a $450 gpu is a little quicker.

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Quote from: zorvalth on November 02, 2017, 05:07:27 PM

whats not to like 1070ti? perfect card it can mine dagger at 90watts with 32mh/s and mine all shitcoins algos (nist5, skunk, phi, neoscrypt, skein...) almost as fast as 1080. Its the perfect mining card. You can mine everything with it and its dead easy to cool. Cant imagine better card for mining. And I got almost evry card out there since 280x...

best cardright now is the vega 56 costs under 400

mines eth at 42 mhs 140 watt, zec at 500 , cryptonight at 1500

it smokes the 1070ti

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out here

tune a 1080ti the right way and it makes these cards look dumb. Doesn't make sense to me, it's like pissing in the wind..

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Quote from: BlockMedx on November 04, 2017, 08:03:03 AM

Slightly disappointing unfortunately. I think people should be sticking to the 1080ti for ETH and ZEC. The 1070ti just isn't cutting it, apparently

The 1080ti is a BAD choice for ETH, but a decent one for ZEC.
WAY too expen$ive for the 35ish Mhash it can manage on ETH, when AMD RX 470/480/570/580 cards can pull more than DOUBLE the hash/$ at recent pricing.

1070ti is a GOOD ZEC card, in my testing of various cards it achieves THE highest efficiency (by a little) of any card in existance - though you can't build rigs as DENSE as you can with the 1080 ti.

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Quote from: BlockMedx on November 04, 2017, 08:03:03 AM

Slightly disappointing unfortunately. I think people should be sticking to the 1080ti for ETH and ZEC. The 1070ti just isn't cutting it, apparently

How is it not cutting it? Are you insane? It cost $40 more than a normal 1070, it has the same memory as a 1070 so does the same ETH hashrate. It has more compute power so will be faster in EVERY other mining algo other than ETH and use almost exactly the same power watts. It is a dream mining card for anyone who pays over .10 c/kwh

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Hmm. Didnt look all that great to me.

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Slightly disappointing unfortunately. I think people should be sticking to the 1080ti for ETH and ZEC. The 1070ti just isn't cutting it, apparently

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Quote from: Pils on November 03, 2017, 11:09:17 AM

EVGA 1070 Ti SC 75% PL (135w) +175 core + 550 mem (micron) 520 sols using DSTM's miner.

520sol/s at 75% power limit is really great. Btw, have you been tested it with ETH mining?

Interesting. I'm running regular EVGA 1070 SC's at 80% power limit and it is a very stable 445 sol/sec. So, like a 15% improvement. Not bad. Disappointing about eth though. Always nice to have that option.

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Disappointing.

I used to get 490+ stable on some models of 1070s (equihash), sometimes even hit 500, if cooled properly.
Ti version has almost no advancement over the original which is over year and a half old.

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Quote from: Pils on November 03, 2017, 11:09:17 AM

EVGA 1070 Ti SC 75% PL (135w) +175 core + 550 mem (micron) 520 sols using DSTM's miner.

520sol/s at 75% power limit is really great. Btw, have you been tested it with ETH mining?

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EVGA 1070 Ti SC 75% PL (135w) +175 core + 550 mem (micron) 520 sols using DSTM's miner.

In comparison to:

MSI 1070 Armor 50% PL (98w) +160 core +350 mem (samsung) 430 sols using DSTM's miner (my best 1070, silicon lottery winner)
Palit 1080 Dual OC 70% PL (145w) +190 core +150 mem 535 sols using DSTM's miner.
EVGA 1080Ti FE 70% PL (180W) +200core +350mem 720 sols using DSTM's miner.

Neoscrypt appears to be semi-broken though, at least on windows 7. The new 1070ti driver has halved speed here on all my cards, the 1070ti is only doing 750kh. My 1070s now do 660kh instead of 1250kh, so by that maths the 1070ti producing 750kh would be doing about 1550kh on a working driver. Had to put the 1070ti's in with the 1080ti doing equihash and roll back drivers on my 1070 rig.

I also have one dodgy card (out of 6). Running +13c compared to the others, will have to disassemble later.

Not great, but not exactly a disaster either. Fills the void between the 1070 and the 1080ti better than the 1080 did anyway, and in the UK offers better hash/£ than the 1080ti.

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