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legendary
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December 13, 2021, 01:22:07 PM
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I figure you mean as per the information and discussion provided on this thread: [email protected] is compromised. There’s also a lengthy article on the matter here: https://www.vice.com/en/article/jp5dk8/the-satoshi-nakamoto-email-hacker-says-hes-negotiating-with-the-bitcoin-founder (interesting screenshots enclosed ->real?). That seems to be in the 2014 range.

I wouldn’t though be surprised at all if he did first disappear from the forum as depicted in the OP, but kept some private email activity as per my prior post. It seems reasonable to disappear from a large public circle first, whilst needing to keep going for a short while in very tight circles.
legendary
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December 13, 2021, 01:14:48 PM
#16
Does anyone here have contact with our dear faketoshi? I'm talking about that Austrian scientist and businessman who has plagued the bitcoin community and is always in the fight for patents, he should come here on the forum and prove that he is the owner of this account. leaving jokes aside, time has passed a lot and today I think that even if satoshi appeared it would not have any impact on the price of bitcoin in the long run
sr. member
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December 13, 2021, 12:39:07 PM
#15

If my memory serves me correct, there was a news of satoshi email address to get hacked. If that's true, I think forum activity was the last one. It's also surprising that he could be active in somewhere else, in email but never bother to log in after December 13.
legendary
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December 13, 2021, 12:25:52 PM
#14

I'm just ogling at his merit score. That's enviable, to say the least. Such an unimaginable quantity of splash tells of the hold Satoshi has on this community, even in absentia too. His last visit here was in 2010 but he's a top beneficiary of a system that kick-started in 2018. In the same thought process, Satoshi has really done marvelously well for this century with Bitcoin which formally set the cryptocurrency journey on. His foresight in doing this is unparallel. Right now, I don't even want him revealing his identify. He's better off with the mystery than resolving it by revealing himself.
sr. member
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December 13, 2021, 12:25:47 PM
#13
Totally unlikely, but sometimes I just think of the potential chaos it would bring if suddenly Satoshi decides to login on Bitcointalk and post again(with signed proof of a Satoshi address). I would really love to hear Satoshi's opinion on Bitcoin's current state.
I bet it would have gotten further with him, tech-wise.

But what you must remember is that bitcoin wasn't a guaranteed thing to succeed. It wasn't only about the tech. The tech gave a mathematical solution. Bitcoin adoption required not only the mathematical, but getting people to trust and use it. Satoshi may have been a genius, but the community required its own geniuses too.

I'm certain that he would identify several needs in our global state -- further decentralization of networks, better adoption of bitcoin (and maybe even other crypto). Regardless of what the market cap is, the question remains what it always was -- how do you get your neighbor to use it? How can this benefit humanity?

I think so, the mere presence alone of the founder would give them so much influence that could greatly affect the market. Imagine some of those stashed coins attributed to their address were moved suddenly, the tabloids would have a field day spinning articles about how the founder may have lost faith in their own invention, sparking a massive sell off.
It wouldn't be so dramatic, but yes, there would likely be a market fall. A super massive sell off wouldn't happen and couldn't happen. Most likely a person that wealthy could simply buy homes and yachts with their bitcoins directly with a decent mark up, if they haven't already done so. If you're that wealthy, selling off after 10+ years wouldn't be exactly your first concern. I do recognize the danger that a few individuals could have in controlling a global market, especially as adoption increases. Alt-coins help mitigate that tbh.

I still hold the idea that you avoid getting screwed after the wikileak accepting of bitcoin as payment and you left for good (great choice).
I bet it's well more than wikileaks accepting bitcoin. It was Gavin Andresen visiting the CIA (which ironically probably helped the community). But there were likely infights and scams already in those early days, as soon as decent money ($100s+)  began to move in single transactions, which no doubt was stressful.

I mean, sit down and think of it. During a financial crisis and out of nowhere, a stranger creates “magic internet money” by solving a problem that was considered impossible 'til that year, sees it working and disappears. Unbelievable.
TBF, even the NSA had been looking at the problem over a decade earlier. Even earlier papers, such as those by Okamoto nearly two decades before, tried to address the problem of digital currency.

Digital scarcity was inevitable. And still is.
legendary
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December 13, 2021, 12:20:56 PM
#12
I sometimes wonder if they indeed moved on to other things or just said it to leave the project harmlessly. They could also had a disease and didn't want to reveal it. What a mystery.

I mean, sit down and think of it. During a financial crisis and out of nowhere, a stranger creates “magic internet money” by solving a problem that was considered impossible 'til that year, sees it working and disappears. Unbelievable.

Totally unlikely, but sometimes I just think of the potential chaos it would bring if suddenly Satoshi decides to login on Bitcointalk and post again(with signed proof of a Satoshi address). I would really love to hear Satoshi's opinion on Bitcoin's current state.
Not that it matters, but Satoshi's account is sort like banned to prevent anyone from logging in and bringing the potential chaos you said. However without a signed message it wouldn't.

I'm sure they'd like the Lightning Network as a concept. They did speak of the scalability issue;
The current system where every user is a network node is not the intended configuration for large scale.  That would be like every Usenet user runs their own NNTP server.  The design supports letting users just be users.  The more burden it is to run a node, the fewer nodes there will be.  Those few nodes will be big server farms.  The rest will be client nodes that only do transactions and don't generate.
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December 13, 2021, 12:15:20 PM
#11
Just say whatever you would like to say to Satoshi.
I still hold the idea that you avoid getting screwed after the wikileak accepting of bitcoin as payment and you left for good (great choice).

Anyway, please don't ever comeback and start suing your co-developers, advocates, and sue everyone on twitter who don't want to believe that you is you.

Have a good health and long live.
legendary
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December 13, 2021, 12:11:32 PM
#10
He did communicate for a bit longer though, just not on a public forum (*), but rather on direct communication. The alleged last publicly known and verified message from him was to Gavin Andresen on April 26, 2011, where he wrote the following content:
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"I wish you wouldn’t keep talking about me as a mysterious shadowy figure, the press just turns that into a pirate currency angle. Maybe instead make it about the open source project and give more credit to your dev contributors; it helps motivate them."
There were allegedly further emails with Martti during early May 2011 related to the transfer of bitcoin.org site, but the article below, I figure, doesn’t count them as 100% verifiable, and credits the above quote as the last for some reason.

There is an last message on P2P foundation, again not verified/verifiable beyond a shadow of doubt, where he allegedly wrote, on march 7th 2014:
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I am not Dorian Nakamoto.
http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A52186

Curtains down …

See: https://www.inbitcoinwetrust.net/10-years-after-satoshi-nakamotos-last-public-message-the-bitcoin-revolution-is-in-good-hands-4fc1ce62b8e9
legendary
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December 13, 2021, 12:04:52 PM
#9
Satoshi is possibly viewing everything happening around the bitcoin space from a remote beach and wondering what the actual purpose of NFTs are or what the next trend in crypto would be.
I was discussing the topic of Satoshi a couple of days ago with a friend, particularly how "he" managed to remain anonymous all these years while resisting the urge to tell everyone who you are, I may not be the brains behind it, but i will say whoever it is, besides being brilliant in tech, they also have incredible discipline and character and a bold resolve to attempt to change the world.

Would having Satoshi around make that much of a difference?
I think so, the mere presence alone of the founder would give them so much influence that could greatly affect the market. Imagine some of those stashed coins attributed to their address were moved suddenly, the tabloids would have a field day spinning articles about how the founder may have lost faith in their own invention, sparking a massive sell off.
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legendary
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December 13, 2021, 12:02:20 PM
#8
Totally unlikely, but sometimes I just think of the potential chaos it would bring if suddenly Satoshi decides to login on Bitcointalk and post again(with signed proof of a Satoshi address). I would really love to hear Satoshi's opinion on Bitcoin's current state.
hero member
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December 13, 2021, 11:55:15 AM
#7
Well I do think that seeing the government always blaming Mr. Satoshi and trying to find him, he actually did make the right move regarding disappearing. For the safety of his family as well, I do think the creator knows already how Bitcoin is doing since you cannot escape the news, it's always on the top heading.
I don't think that anyone who claims and doesn't have the keys do even stand a chance since the real creator does know the value of the keys ofcourse. It's really wonderful that so many people are able to use Bitcoins without something like *monthly or yearly fee*, miners are getting employed indirectly, it's wonderful how the campaigns are working. He created something that is employing so many people at once. That's working during pandemic as well.
Hats off to Mr. Satoshi.
legendary
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December 13, 2021, 11:53:16 AM
#6
11 years without Satoshi*
* = That we know of.
That is the joy of being anonymous. I could be Satoshi (I'm not) you could be Satoshi (I don't know)
But, you know what, it does not matter. BTC continues to grow and evolve and be accepted.
Would having Satoshi around make that much of a difference?

-Dave
sr. member
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December 13, 2021, 11:48:53 AM
#5
Many try to claim as the founder of bitcoin but they failed at the end of the struggle. 11 years bitcoin still remain decentralized currency to the world which no government has the power to control the price or to claim. The purpose bitcoin was created by Satoshi has been fulfilled which many countries that adopted bitcoin has testified about the good it has done in their country.
The world will continue to celebrate the founder of bitcoin because bitcoin has done so much to the world economy and to the citizens. 11 years bitcoin has never fail for it responsibility it was created by Satoshi for the world to enjoy.
I am sorry if I am hurting you, but this is really political statement instead of giving any tribute to satoshi because in current world no one celebrating Satoshi day maybe we will have soon because now mass adoption is happening and many big tech related companies and countries are studying about this which is very good for all.
I personally really happy after joining this community as this Bitcoin give me some extra things in life which was never been in my dreams because I am living in country where we have too many restrictions, but this is really independence for them and millions like me.

A Fair Salute to Satoshi and his team for this great work.
hero member
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December 13, 2021, 11:42:54 AM
#4
satoshi left our forum and left Bitcoin community eleven years ago. Time passes very fast and after 11 years, I think if we look back at this event and decision of satoshi, it's very good one.

satoshi did it and contributed to make real decentralization for Bitcoin in many terms from development, community, network, coin distribution to legal aspect against governments.
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December 13, 2021, 11:41:01 AM
#3
Many try to claim as the founder of bitcoin but they failed at the end of the struggle. 11 years bitcoin still remain decentralized currency to the world which no government has the power to control the price or to claim. The purpose bitcoin was created by Satoshi has been fulfilled which many countries that adopted bitcoin has testified about the good it has done in their country.
The world will continue to celebrate the founder of bitcoin because bitcoin has done so much to the world economy and to the citizens. 11 years bitcoin has never fail for it responsibility it was created by Satoshi for the world to enjoy.
sr. member
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December 13, 2021, 10:52:43 AM
#2
Just say whatever you would like to say to Satoshi.

Hey Satoshi. Smiley
legendary
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December 13, 2021, 10:42:21 AM
#1
11 years have passed without Satoshi. Exactly 11 years ago, Satoshi wrote a post on the forum and disappeared from the net forever.
During this time, we saw many people claiming to be Satoshi. But so far, we have not seen any evidence that all these impostors are indeed the anonymous creator of Bitcoin.
Just say whatever you would like to say to Satoshi.
Bitcoin has already been mined by 90 percent, and I really want to know that the creator of Bitcoin knows that his brainchild is growing and developing with great success.



https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.29479

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