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What are some trusted brands or vendors currently for lithium batteries for use in storage with Solar Panels in your experience?
I have had an itching to start up a little single miner project using night time only mining.  Not really for profit just for fun and learning more about solar.
Plus at night you get lower ambient temps and in some cases use the heat.

The only one I have any knowledge of is Tesla.  However, if I were more of a DIY guy, I would look into doing something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk50IuWXg-c
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What are some trusted brands or vendors currently for lithium batteries for use in storage with Solar Panels in your experience?
I have had an itching to start up a little single miner project using night time only mining.  Not really for profit just for fun and learning more about solar.
Plus at night you get lower ambient temps and in some cases use the heat.
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No. It’s got a long warranty. I’m not responsible for any repair costs. Should last at least 25 years. I also expect electricity rates to rise faster than predicted. I’m confident it will pay for itself in under 10 years.

That's a great deal, when you take out repair costs and consider warranty.

I'm sure your right about energy costs going up, and really nothing better than going green.
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That's awesome congrats.

I was wondering what is the estimated lifespan of your solar equipment? Also estimated repair costs. Would it likely push the breakeven to 11 years or something like that?

No. It’s got a long warranty. I’m not responsible for any repair costs. Should last at least 25 years. I also expect electricity rates to rise faster than predicted. I’m confident it will pay for itself in under 10 years.
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That's awesome congrats.

I was wondering what is the estimated lifespan of your solar equipment? Also estimated repair costs. Would it likely push the breakeven to 11 years or something like that?
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I now have 1 entire year of solar array data to look at, so I thought I would post some stats.

Energy Produced in first year: 17,976 kWh
Estimated Cost Savings in first year: $1,995.34
Estimated Time to Breakeven: *10 years

*with average annual price inflation factored in
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I have received a "permission to operate" notice from the electric company.  I assume this means I will soon be granted the ability to begin using the Powerwall for energy arbitrage.
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Have you looked into/read up on High Altitude Wind Generation Technologies?

No.  I can't imagine something like that would be possible for me where I am.  Sounds cool though.
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Hey OgNasty,

Have you looked into/read up on High Altitude Wind Generation Technologies?  It's been discussed in very isolated circles dating back to the late 1970s, but never implemented. Only now are companies starting to really look at it's true potential. Some interesting tech startups are emerging with interesting ways of harnessing wind turbine energy generation with the use of kites flown at high altitudes.

Theres a number of projects that seem far fetched, but I think in the not so distant future High Altitude Wind Generation is going to be a huge industry; simply because it makes financial sense on practically every level.

I actually went out to Joshua Tree CA a few years back and drove through the massive Wind Farms on the way near the park. Did a lot of photography, got up close to the massive turbines, pretty crazy. Standing directly under a full sized wind turbine while it's running, you literally feel the shockwave, like a very low sounding thump from a woofer; run through your body as each blade crosses down and over you 20 feet above.

But high altitude concepts are pretty amazing, in terms of what's possible with very basic concepts simply put into place and used.

The two that stand out to me are the Laddermill: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laddermill and Angle of Attack Pully systems.

Second; The concept of constructing a large kite which is the shape of a cylinder; The cylinder has vents, similar to how a parachute is able to open vents to turn; which when flown forces the Kite into a fast spinning motion. Tethered with a high strength low weight cable, the kite is flown up to +20,000 feet; and if geographically positioned correctly; you put the kite into the Jet Stream. A fairly constant 200+ MPH wind-stream that never stops. This of course forces the kite to spin very fast, which creates tension on the cable, and the cable spins and turns the generator which is based on the ground. The economics of this are amazing considering that this eliminates much of the costs of ground based turbines; which require large amounts of very heavy materials; the ground pole; the blades, etc, plus lifespan and replacement of such.

Last, but not a favorite;

The Angle of Attach is like a fish on a reel; the kite is pitched back to catch the wind; causing it to reel outwards; which spins a generator, when the kite reaches 50,000 feet; the cable tension is released, and a weight moves towards the nose; pitching it foward. So the kite no longer is being held, and pitched down. After it hits 10,000 feet, the cable is drawn in; (kite is now at low altitude but distance wise very far away); and as the cable is drawn in with the nose down; it maintains low altitude and returns close to the generator. Then the cable is pulled tight, and the weight is moved to the aft of the kite, pitching it back, creating lift, back to 50,000 feet... which as it pulls out drives the generator.

Of course this done on a large scale; thousands of kites like this, would produce massive amounts of energy; at a much more efficient rate; harnessing the 200 MPH winds at high altitudes and not requiring all the heavy steel of today's ground based wind turbines.

Ships could also use them at sea; a generator on a ship, with a kite single 10kw generator on board.

And of course; 100% coordination with the FAA and flight traffic patterns- just to keep all those frequent flyers flying.

But read through this thread; interesting stuff, and good ideas here. Just thought I'd pass this info along; in case you hadnt heard about it, as it's only recently been starting to catch "wind" and still only in small circles. But promising.

Hope you're well,

Cheers!

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Nice one, which one is better solar or wind in compare to money/energy?
I also thought how many SportsArt ECO-POWR™ G510 Indoor Cycles you would have to have to power 1 antminer (anyone calculated? let's assume 2h a day for 1 man?)

Solar is hands down the better investment.  I don't think the wind turbine will ever pay for itself before being decommissioned, but it does look damn cool.  Having the infrastructure in place is also great for future use, should a more efficient wind turbine be produced.  The wind turbine does outperform the indoor cycle though, which is why I didn't do a direct comparison with statistics.  Let's just say this project has given me a new respect for how affordable electricity is, and how awesome solar power is.  My legs are definitely the biggest beneficiary of the cycle, as I've been riding it for between 5-15 minutes every day and am getting stronger thus able to ride with a higher resistance.  The higher the resistance level, the more energy it produces.  For example, barely peddling on a high resistance setting produces way more energy than peddling like a madman on a lower setting.  However, it would probably take 40 of these bikes peddling nearly around the clock to power an antminer, so it is not a realistic energy generation solution without owning a gym and charging people to use the bikes.

Thanks for the reply, do you own this cycle?
Anyone knows maybe water turbine? Let's assume you have house near river would it be better than wind/solar?
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Nice one, which one is better solar or wind in compare to money/energy?
I also thought how many SportsArt ECO-POWR™ G510 Indoor Cycles you would have to have to power 1 antminer (anyone calculated? let's assume 2h a day for 1 man?)

Solar is hands down the better investment.  I don't think the wind turbine will ever pay for itself before being decommissioned, but it does look damn cool.  Having the infrastructure in place is also great for future use, should a more efficient wind turbine be produced.  The wind turbine does outperform the indoor cycle though, which is why I didn't do a direct comparison with statistics.  Let's just say this project has given me a new respect for how affordable electricity is, and how awesome solar power is.  My legs are definitely the biggest beneficiary of the cycle, as I've been riding it for between 5-15 minutes every day and am getting stronger thus able to ride with a higher resistance.  The higher the resistance level, the more energy it produces.  For example, barely peddling on a high resistance setting produces way more energy than peddling like a madman on a lower setting.  However, it would probably take 40 of these bikes peddling nearly around the clock to power an antminer, so it is not a realistic energy generation solution without owning a gym and charging people to use the bikes.
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Nice one, which one is better solar or wind in compare to money/energy?
I also thought how many SportsArt ECO-POWR™ G510 Indoor Cycles you would have to have to power 1 antminer (anyone calculated? let's assume 2h a day for 1 man?)
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Nice thanks for sharing, placing this in a hot climate with access to a decently clean water supply would be great.

Not sure where your attempt at off the grid power is but a nice rain catch reservoir would add another bump in utility savings. I guess it depends on the type of heat exchanger they are using, if it's shell and tube you can get away with a lower quality of water. A plate exchanger not so much the water path tends to get fouled up quickly.

Good luck
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The system I'm looking at uses a water line to cool the oil in a heat transfer unit.

Would you be running a cold water line coil through the oil tank on it's way to say your hot water tank? Or I guess more likely through an oil reservoir tank that cycles through the individual cooling tanks?

I just started following the thread and have some back reading to do but I love the idea of using all the energy and reducing it wherever you can.

You can get a better explanation here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REbv1Yrvxi8
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The system I'm looking at uses a water line to cool the oil in a heat transfer unit.

Would you be running a cold water line coil through the oil tank on it's way to say your hot water tank? Or I guess more likely through an oil reservoir tank that cycles through the individual cooling tanks?

I just started following the thread and have some back reading to do but I love the idea of using all the energy and reducing it wherever you can.
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There is undoubtedly efficiency savings from operating at a lower temperature and not using fans, but I would guess somewhere in the 5%-20% range.
Yeah those numbers are much closer to the actual savings that could be achieved.

You really can't ignore the air conditioning aspect when it comes to savings.  I estimate that using immersion cooling would save ~$1,500 annually on air conditioning costs (~15% efficiency improvement).  Not to mention cutting down on the impact of running an air conditioner would be a benefit for this project.

How do you cool the mineral oil though?
You have to change it every now and then once it reaches a certain temperature?

The system I'm looking at uses a water line to cool the oil in a heat transfer unit.
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There is undoubtedly efficiency savings from operating at a lower temperature and not using fans, but I would guess somewhere in the 5%-20% range.
Yeah those numbers are much closer to the actual savings that could be achieved.

You really can't ignore the air conditioning aspect when it comes to savings.  I estimate that using immersion cooling would save ~$1,500 annually on air conditioning costs (~15% efficiency improvement).  Not to mention cutting down on the impact of running an air conditioner would be a benefit for this project.

How do you cool the mineral oil though?
You have to change it every now and then once it reaches a certain temperature?
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The Tesla Powerwall 2 has passed inspection and is currently charging with sunlight!

The only remaining hurdle is that the operational software for the Powerwall needs an update for me to be able to adjust the operating procedure to be beneficial for this project.  I'm told that will be happening in the next 3 weeks.
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Yeah agreed AC is a no-go in mining.

I'm not ignoring those savings, but I was focusing on the miner power efficiency comparison.

I think that all in all we are pretty much on the same wavelength about all this.
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There is undoubtedly efficiency savings from operating at a lower temperature and not using fans, but I would guess somewhere in the 5%-20% range.
Yeah those numbers are much closer to the actual savings that could be achieved.

You really can't ignore the air conditioning aspect when it comes to savings.  I estimate that using immersion cooling would save ~$1,500 annually on air conditioning costs (~15% efficiency improvement).  Not to mention cutting down on the impact of running an air conditioner would be a benefit for this project.
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