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January 27, 2018, 12:41:39 PM
#23
Actually 2,3,4,5 are too close, I think vertical is matter. i will get a chance to flip horizontal to vertical and see the temps again.

Yeah, will be waiting for your updates.
newbie
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January 27, 2018, 12:17:01 PM
#22
So this turned into a hardware discussion about 1070 rigs, which is pointless.

The question was What to mine, right? Right now, for a safe bet - download the latest KlausT version of CCminer (version 8.19 x64 cuda 9.1) and use it to mine neoscrypt at nicehash. I find that even when whattomine.com says equihash for nicehash - this KlausT miner is so good at neoscrypt that you do better.

So that also leads me to suggest you look at one of the various neoscrypt based coins around right now. If you want to mine something and hold it for the long term hoping you will get something that will go to the moon like bitcoin did last year, I personally recommend mining whatever whattomine.com suggests as the best neoscrypt based coin using the miner I suggested above, BUT as long as it's a coin you can deposit to a well known exchange like Bittrex - then sell it and buy ETH  (or some of the better ETH based tokens like EOS, Omisego, enjincoin, etc) or maybe buy Stellar Lumens. ETH is going to go the way of bitcoin because it is the infrastructure of so many new things. There is just no point directly mining ETH anymore but if you mine something currently profitable you can just buy ETH with what you make. ETH is what bitcoin should have been.

Or you can just do like I said and mine neoscrypt or equihash on nicehash and get the BTC then use the BTC to buy whatever or cash it out.

No one can tell you what is the best thing to mine because it changes every day. You have to learn to watch what is profitable and change your mining habits accordingly.

I'm not going to tell you how to get the KlausT ccminer, or how to use it, or how to mine to nicehash, or how to work out what is most profitable because that is all stuff you have to learn yourself by doing a lot of research and experimenting. There is a really great website called "Google" where you can search stuff and find it out for yourself. You can also do a lot of researching on these forums to learn a lot, but you have to know that 70% of what you read here is bullshit, or it's people trying to take advantage of you or scam you. I think about 85% of coins out there are totally useless, or scams. You have to learn which ones actually have real application, are not just clones of other coins/concepts or are just pure scams.

This is all part of the fun of mining and learning. I have been doing it for 2 years. If I hadn't been naive I would now hold $200,000 worth of ETH because I was mining ETH when 200mh/s was enough to make 5 ETH every 2 or 3 days. I sold most of the approximately 200 ETH I mined when it was at about $50-60. I believe ETH will be worth at least $5000 each in the next 12-18 months.

Like someone else said - there are very profitable coins out there but people like me who know about them won't post about them on public forums because then all the noobs will start mining them and destroy their difficulty. You have to learn to find this stuff out yourself.

This isn't just directed at the OP - it's directed at all the people who have just built their first mining rig and they post "what should I mine". There is no answer to that that someone will just tell you - it's up to you to learn, experiment, fail, succeed and have fun ON YOUR OWN USING YOUR OWN BRAIN.

Thank you very much brother, appreciated for your comment. Hit my point!!
sr. member
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The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom
January 27, 2018, 12:07:44 PM
#21
So this turned into a hardware discussion about 1070 rigs, which is pointless.

The question was What to mine, right? Right now, for a safe bet - download the latest KlausT version of CCminer (version 8.19 x64 cuda 9.1) and use it to mine neoscrypt at nicehash. I find that even when whattomine.com says equihash for nicehash - this KlausT miner is so good at neoscrypt that you do better.

So that also leads me to suggest you look at one of the various neoscrypt based coins around right now. If you want to mine something and hold it for the long term hoping you will get something that will go to the moon like bitcoin did last year, I personally recommend mining whatever whattomine.com suggests as the best neoscrypt based coin using the miner I suggested above, BUT as long as it's a coin you can deposit to a well known exchange like Bittrex - then sell it and buy ETH  (or some of the better ETH based tokens like EOS, Omisego, enjincoin, etc) or maybe buy Stellar Lumens. ETH is going to go the way of bitcoin because it is the infrastructure of so many new things. There is just no point directly mining ETH anymore but if you mine something currently profitable you can just buy ETH with what you make. ETH is what bitcoin should have been.

Or you can just do like I said and mine neoscrypt or equihash on nicehash and get the BTC then use the BTC to buy whatever or cash it out.

No one can tell you what is the best thing to mine because it changes every day. You have to learn to watch what is profitable and change your mining habits accordingly.

I'm not going to tell you how to get the KlausT ccminer, or how to use it, or how to mine to nicehash, or how to work out what is most profitable because that is all stuff you have to learn yourself by doing a lot of research and experimenting. There is a really great website called "Google" where you can search stuff and find it out for yourself. You can also do a lot of researching on these forums to learn a lot, but you have to know that 70% of what you read here is bullshit, or it's people trying to take advantage of you or scam you. I think about 85% of coins out there are totally useless, or scams. You have to learn which ones actually have real application, are not just clones of other coins/concepts or are just pure scams.

This is all part of the fun of mining and learning. I have been doing it for 2 years. If I hadn't been naive I would now hold $200,000 worth of ETH because I was mining ETH when 200mh/s was enough to make 5 ETH every 2 or 3 days. I sold most of the approximately 200 ETH I mined when it was at about $50-60. I believe ETH will be worth at least $5000 each in the next 12-18 months.

Like someone else said - there are very profitable coins out there but people like me who know about them won't post about them on public forums because then all the noobs will start mining them and destroy their difficulty. You have to learn to find this stuff out yourself.

This isn't just directed at the OP - it's directed at all the people who have just built their first mining rig and they post "what should I mine". There is no answer to that that someone will just tell you - it's up to you to learn, experiment, fail, succeed and have fun ON YOUR OWN USING YOUR OWN BRAIN.
newbie
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January 27, 2018, 12:03:50 PM
#20
So, the vertical cards are cooler than the other. Is it caused by vertical position? or 1,0,7,8,9,6,10,11 too close (correlated with cards airflow), so the temps higher than the vertical cards.

Actually 2,3,4,5 are too close, I think vertical is matter. i will get a chance to flip horizontal to vertical and see the temps again.
member
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Merit: 16
January 27, 2018, 11:55:38 AM
#19
So, the vertical cards are cooler than the other. Is it caused by vertical position? or 1,0,7,8,9,6,10,11 too close (correlated with cards airflow), so the temps higher than the vertical cards.
newbie
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January 27, 2018, 11:34:38 AM
#18
any recommended website to watch.

This forum is main sources all of the info, so keep watching here.

GPU | Temp  | Fan  |   GPU Clock  | Power    
    0 |   60 'C |   80  |    1999 MHz |    154.35 W
    1 |   61 'C |   80  |    2012 MHz |    133.77 W
    2 |   48 'C |   80  |    2037 MHz |    153.98 W
    3 |   47 'C |   80  |    1961 MHz |    127.53 W
    4 |   55 'C |   80  |    1936 MHz |    120.60 W
    5 |   47 'C |   80  |    1987 MHz |    157.31 W
    6 |   60 'C |   80  |    1961 MHz |    140.76 W
    7 |   54 'C |   80  |    1923 MHz |    133.96 W
    8 |   53 'C |   80  |    1987 MHz |    167.75 W
    9 |   51 'C |   80  |    2025 MHz |    131.68 W
   10 |   59 'C |   80  |    2025 MHz |    143.68 W
   11 |   57 'C |   80  |    1949 MHz |    157.05 W

which GPUs at under 50 degrees?

Sorry for lately reply.

This is my last notification.

GPU | Temp  | Fan  |   GPU Clock  | Power     
    0 |   56 'C |   80  |    2062 MHz |    139.23 W
    1 |   61 'C |   80  |    1961 MHz |    116.53 W
    2 |   47 'C |   80  |    1999 MHz |    146.86 W
    3 |   47 'C |   80  |    2025 MHz |    163.49 W
    4 |   52 'C |   80  |    1987 MHz |    151.00 W
    5 |   46 'C |   80  |    2012 MHz |    161.80 W
    6 |   62 'C |   80  |    1987 MHz |    147.31 W
    7 |   54 'C |   80  |    1974 MHz |    140.79 W
    8 |   54 'C |   80  |    1974 MHz |    152.55 W
    9 |   51 'C |   80  |    1987 MHz |    140.84 W
   10 |   57 'C |   80  |    1961 MHz |    140.34 W
   11 |   56 'C |   80  |    1987 MHz |    151.43 W
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 Total Power Consumption : 1752.17 Watt

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member
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January 26, 2018, 09:27:55 PM
#17
You see different temp, from horizontal to vertical mounting?

Yeah still waiting for an answer to this question, it's important to us, hows vertical or horizon GPUs positions correlated with temperature.
newbie
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January 26, 2018, 07:39:50 AM
#16
Heat must be horrendous between those cards no?

I space my cards on 3 levels, they are spaced well apart.

GPU | Temp  | Fan  |   GPU Clock  | Power     
    0 |   60 'C |   80  |    1999 MHz |    154.35 W
    1 |   61 'C |   80  |    2012 MHz |    133.77 W
    2 |   48 'C |   80  |    2037 MHz |    153.98 W
    3 |   47 'C |   80  |    1961 MHz |    127.53 W
    4 |   55 'C |   80  |    1936 MHz |    120.60 W
    5 |   47 'C |   80  |    1987 MHz |    157.31 W
    6 |   60 'C |   80  |    1961 MHz |    140.76 W
    7 |   54 'C |   80  |    1923 MHz |    133.96 W
    8 |   53 'C |   80  |    1987 MHz |    167.75 W
    9 |   51 'C |   80  |    2025 MHz |    131.68 W
   10 |   59 'C |   80  |    2025 MHz |    143.68 W
   11 |   57 'C |   80  |    1949 MHz |    157.05 W

The 2025Mhz one has just 131.68W. It is very efficient.
newbie
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January 26, 2018, 07:10:44 AM
#15
Coin mining profitability varies a lot.
As the guys mentioned above, I also suggest consulting the mining calculators online.

One that I specifically recommend is this one: https://www.crypto-coinz.net/crypto-calculator/

Good luck!
jr. member
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January 26, 2018, 07:03:55 AM
#14
what to mine depends on your mining habits.
If you need daily profits whattomine is good or you can search for alt ann section of new coins.
I used to mine sumo but i switched to dero after they published the future code. As everyone seems to love and believe developer.
if you are looking for new blockchain and more than just fork of old coin go to dero.
 DERO: Privacy + Smart Contracts + Lightning Fast Transactions
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-dero-dag-cryptonote-bulletproofs-ssl-pow-smart-contracts-2525508
member
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January 26, 2018, 01:26:14 AM
#13
You see different temp, from horizontal to vertical mounting?
member
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January 25, 2018, 10:15:59 PM
#12
Heat must be horrendous between those cards no?

I space my cards on 3 levels, they are spaced well apart.

GPU | Temp  | Fan  |   GPU Clock  | Power     
    0 |   60 'C |   80  |    1999 MHz |    154.35 W
    1 |   61 'C |   80  |    2012 MHz |    133.77 W
    2 |   48 'C |   80  |    2037 MHz |    153.98 W
    3 |   47 'C |   80  |    1961 MHz |    127.53 W
    4 |   55 'C |   80  |    1936 MHz |    120.60 W
    5 |   47 'C |   80  |    1987 MHz |    157.31 W
    6 |   60 'C |   80  |    1961 MHz |    140.76 W
    7 |   54 'C |   80  |    1923 MHz |    133.96 W
    8 |   53 'C |   80  |    1987 MHz |    167.75 W
    9 |   51 'C |   80  |    2025 MHz |    131.68 W
   10 |   59 'C |   80  |    2025 MHz |    143.68 W
   11 |   57 'C |   80  |    1949 MHz |    157.05 W
167.75 W  seems to be a very high consume for a 1070


Should i fix power? How much should it be?

I have two systems of 6 GTX1070's ea, each GPU consumes 80W using EthOS

In Windows I recorded 90W usage, with downclocking using MSI Aftereffect

In EthOS it is also possible to play with this setting

Temps are looking good!
If electricity costs isn not an issue, you don't need to worry
member
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January 25, 2018, 09:48:26 PM
#11
any recommended website to watch.

This forum is main sources all of the info, so keep watching here.

GPU | Temp  | Fan  |   GPU Clock  | Power     
    0 |   60 'C |   80  |    1999 MHz |    154.35 W
    1 |   61 'C |   80  |    2012 MHz |    133.77 W
    2 |   48 'C |   80  |    2037 MHz |    153.98 W
    3 |   47 'C |   80  |    1961 MHz |    127.53 W
    4 |   55 'C |   80  |    1936 MHz |    120.60 W
    5 |   47 'C |   80  |    1987 MHz |    157.31 W
    6 |   60 'C |   80  |    1961 MHz |    140.76 W
    7 |   54 'C |   80  |    1923 MHz |    133.96 W
    8 |   53 'C |   80  |    1987 MHz |    167.75 W
    9 |   51 'C |   80  |    2025 MHz |    131.68 W
   10 |   59 'C |   80  |    2025 MHz |    143.68 W
   11 |   57 'C |   80  |    1949 MHz |    157.05 W

which GPUs at under 50 degrees?
newbie
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Merit: 0
January 25, 2018, 02:34:26 PM
#10
Heat must be horrendous between those cards no?

I space my cards on 3 levels, they are spaced well apart.

GPU | Temp  | Fan  |   GPU Clock  | Power     
    0 |   60 'C |   80  |    1999 MHz |    154.35 W
    1 |   61 'C |   80  |    2012 MHz |    133.77 W
    2 |   48 'C |   80  |    2037 MHz |    153.98 W
    3 |   47 'C |   80  |    1961 MHz |    127.53 W
    4 |   55 'C |   80  |    1936 MHz |    120.60 W
    5 |   47 'C |   80  |    1987 MHz |    157.31 W
    6 |   60 'C |   80  |    1961 MHz |    140.76 W
    7 |   54 'C |   80  |    1923 MHz |    133.96 W
    8 |   53 'C |   80  |    1987 MHz |    167.75 W
    9 |   51 'C |   80  |    2025 MHz |    131.68 W
   10 |   59 'C |   80  |    2025 MHz |    143.68 W
   11 |   57 'C |   80  |    1949 MHz |    157.05 W
167.75 W  seems to be a very high consume for a 1070


Should i fix power? How much should it be?
full member
Activity: 532
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January 25, 2018, 02:17:27 PM
#9
Heat must be horrendous between those cards no?

I space my cards on 3 levels, they are spaced well apart.

GPU | Temp  | Fan  |   GPU Clock  | Power     
    0 |   60 'C |   80  |    1999 MHz |    154.35 W
    1 |   61 'C |   80  |    2012 MHz |    133.77 W
    2 |   48 'C |   80  |    2037 MHz |    153.98 W
    3 |   47 'C |   80  |    1961 MHz |    127.53 W
    4 |   55 'C |   80  |    1936 MHz |    120.60 W
    5 |   47 'C |   80  |    1987 MHz |    157.31 W
    6 |   60 'C |   80  |    1961 MHz |    140.76 W
    7 |   54 'C |   80  |    1923 MHz |    133.96 W
    8 |   53 'C |   80  |    1987 MHz |    167.75 W
    9 |   51 'C |   80  |    2025 MHz |    131.68 W
   10 |   59 'C |   80  |    2025 MHz |    143.68 W
   11 |   57 'C |   80  |    1949 MHz |    157.05 W
167.75 W  seems to be a very high consume for a 1070
newbie
Activity: 16
Merit: 0
January 25, 2018, 02:15:02 PM
#8
Heat must be horrendous between those cards no?

I space my cards on 3 levels, they are spaced well apart.

GPU | Temp  | Fan  |   GPU Clock  | Power     
    0 |   60 'C |   80  |    1999 MHz |    154.35 W
    1 |   61 'C |   80  |    2012 MHz |    133.77 W
    2 |   48 'C |   80  |    2037 MHz |    153.98 W
    3 |   47 'C |   80  |    1961 MHz |    127.53 W
    4 |   55 'C |   80  |    1936 MHz |    120.60 W
    5 |   47 'C |   80  |    1987 MHz |    157.31 W
    6 |   60 'C |   80  |    1961 MHz |    140.76 W
    7 |   54 'C |   80  |    1923 MHz |    133.96 W
    8 |   53 'C |   80  |    1987 MHz |    167.75 W
    9 |   51 'C |   80  |    2025 MHz |    131.68 W
   10 |   59 'C |   80  |    2025 MHz |    143.68 W
   11 |   57 'C |   80  |    1949 MHz |    157.05 W
sr. member
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January 25, 2018, 02:02:39 PM
#7
Heat must be horrendous between those cards no?

I space my cards on 3 levels, they are spaced well apart.
newbie
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Merit: 0
January 25, 2018, 01:58:27 PM
#6
Yep you right bro, need to rearrange later but i leave my rig in server room, 24x7 AC, no heating problem right now.
Oh yeah, since you are using full-time AC, it's no big deal. About a profitability, you need to know the best Algo for your Cards, sometimes you need to speculate on new coins. Keep open your eyes and keep watching any newest info.

any recommended website to watch.
member
Activity: 208
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January 25, 2018, 01:41:16 PM
#5
Yep you right bro, need to rearrange later but i leave my rig in server room, 24x7 AC, no heating problem right now.
Oh yeah, since you are using full-time AC, it's no big deal. About a profitability, you need to know the best Algo for your Cards, sometimes you need to speculate on new coins. Keep open your eyes and keep watching any newest info.
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