Topic: 14nm A4 Dominator ASIC, world best 1.5W/Mhs efficiency, coming soon - page 2. (Read 5056 times)

It would be awesome to get some updates from the OP on this one.  The S9 is out and it is getting hard to wait on the A4.  Would love to see some timelines and updates on this. 

Innsilicon from what I uderstand with the A2 Terminators ...did quite few of these but supposedly before they had NO data hall....and moved 'a lot' of bulk chip sales.

So it is the bulk chip sales I am worried about.

I have KNC Titan(s) (3 of them) so if the A4 Dominator comes out at 4k say..and is 400mh and 1150 watts ...the KNC Titans are 350mh and 1250 watts I can run with

that wolf pack just fine....and considering I have ROI'd on the above (with 3rd unit more or less in 5 weeks) and back to the amount of LTC I had before 3rd unit was

gotten and hashing 1/3 more from then on ( I call that a win) anyway.......again the issues I have with these machines coming out

BAD (from my selfish point of view)

1) Competition with Titans (my 19 month some units running miners)

2) They only  have a 90 day warranty...thus most asic makers I know did not even get their asic firmware figured out correctly in more the 90 days with big pools etc....could be
    an issue....kinda easy for the company to just walk with incomplete firmware etc..and 14nm chips ...could be more touchy then the Titans were/are At least the Titans
    you had a year to play RMA tag.

3) The 4k price may be a bit high. (IF it is that) with the amount of A4 units they pump out and/or bulk chip sales.

4) the massive bulk chip sales to Chinese miners and/or equip for such could be a real issue and blow up difficulty so the Titans go doorstops and the A4 units to us never ROI.


GOOD

1) Showing the flag with a NEW scrypt miner ...could revive all scrypt prices for coins and really pump LTC....in that it no longer looks like a 'last stand of the protocol' with just
    the Titans out there as the top end machines.

2) The price could go up for LTC and all scrypt coins as a result of the above.....further making likely A4 Dominators making ROI and Titans have an even longer lifespan as a result

3) The difficulty can go up much higher say at 6 buck LTC for the A4 and Titan miners .....then if difficulty gets slam'd and we are still at the 4-4.50 range...again could wash out
    to be OK for both Titan survival and A4 ROI especially say if it was to get around say 6 bucks or more...ie sure the difficulty rise was tough..but electric costs are the same the
    purchase price (A4 4K) and/or postpone of end of life on the Titans are the same..because the price rise from the new equip reviving scrypt and the difficulty being negated by
    such ..it could be a wash..ie A4's at the top of the heap for say 1 year plus and ROI....Titans tag'ing along till they blow up from age lol

Just my take on this at this point in time...but hell we get 7 bucks say LTC and 6months after the A4 ships in July we would have a MESS of probably bigger scrypt equipment come
out of the woodwork to blow difficulty up and the A4 and the Titans into door stop status...but it is likely if we are lucky...the A4 would have ROI'd due to the price increase
and Titans would hang on some as well..but 7 buck LTC everyone would be making asics again imho and the 'difficulty war' would be on again big time.


So anyway others can chime here but my take on this

I'd actually prefer it be higher = fewer machines sold = less hashrate growth = longer timeframe for my existing A2 farm to make more money.

 9-)

I hope when the real A4 hits, it's sub $2500

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 88 MH A2 still had 6 boards, not 5 - and the wiring is different too. Minor changes though - and there was some variation even in the A2 line of the "same model", I've got 4 Megas and they are NOT identical, different case lengths (2 long, 2 short) differences in the fans and other minor differences - but they ALL have 6 hash boards (the 110 had more chips / board, NOT an extra board, based my own units AND every picture I've seen of A2 units).

 It WOULD make sense for the A4 to be similar to the A2 in design and layout - consider the differences between the A1 Dragons and the A2 Terminators (oh yeah, same basic design carried over with minor changes).

 Price is WAY too high, but part of that might be the dealer markup.
 My "ballpark" estimate has been $2500ish from Innosilicon direct for a while now.


 I'm not inclined to say "scam" yet - but I concede the potential is there.

year pay off no thanks , needs to be around $1200 to be worth it

I don't think so, yes it's definitely not a picture of the real thing, but then again, if a prototype is expected for July a photo of the real miner would need some time travelling I guess, so its understandable to take a placeholder.

It looks like the LKETC 110MH Terminator IMHO. Since this is one of the largest miner sellers on AliX and given the guarantess that AliX gives I doubt its pure BS - why should the seller do that (except maybe luring visitors into his shop and ending buying other models) ?
I take this as a sign that these magic 14nm miners will pop up at your local dealer sometimes around end of this summer.

I am willing to demo one for the forum and will return it back to any place in the USA.

I would set it in my joint venture solar array and do a two week demo then ship it back to you  or possibly purchase it  for the array.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/solar-array-starting-to-look-good-1369207

I would place lots of photos and info for people to see it.

That looks exactly like an older 88MH Design -- It says A2 in description of auction but in details it says A4 -- I think it's BS.

There is definitely something going on, I stumbled upon this recently which is announced as prototype for July:

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-arrival-Zeus-Scrypt-Miner-All-Solution-Litecoin-Miner-300M-digging-Litecoin-with-power-supply-send/2048732975.html

Not mich info, but it gives at least some idea what will be on the price tag for those 14nm miners.

So it's been a while without any updates. Do you actually have an eta on these next gen miners?

Guess you don't know Innosilicon's track record, or know much about Litecoin, or WHY Bitcoin (but much lesser degree) and Litecoin product generations were closely-spaced BEFORE they caught up to the current Semiconductor state-of-the-art in the 14/16nm generation.

Also, most of the time with mining rig companies it becomes a matter of waiting lists, then time delays then new and better products from competitors and by the time one gets the product it is outdated.

How will you guarantee this is not the case with your company?

 Been a week and a half, announcement is where?

Nice specs, but only about half the efficiency mentioned in your early announcement back around November (850 MH at under 1000 watts IIRC in TURBO mode, 600 at 720 or some such in non-turbo).
Might be a good thing through for those of us with existing A2 units, should give us more time to achieve RoI before the hashrate goes through the roof.

 Is one miner going to be able to achieve all of the modes listed in your post on your website, or it that going to be determined by how many chips are in a string on the board / voltage on each chip?


 BTW - this probably would have been better posted in the Altcoin Mining forum here, the only way I can FIND this posting is via a Google Search - or it needs a cross-post over there.

Book Marked and my A2 will be on EBAY very soon.

How much?
I thought last spec was 800mhs ,800w

Cool 
Any real pictures yet?

Good question! The ASICs and miner price will be best ever. Will announce early bird discounted price in one week.