[1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool - page 264.

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Quote from: chinesebob on November 20, 2014, 01:37:42 AM

I should also mention that I have my difficulty set to 512 by appending +512 to my wallet address, I was using /5000+512 based on a recommendation from some tutorial, but I didn't understand the /5000 and took it out to troubleshoot

/50000 give you share of that power, but only if pool share is LESS than this number. It is way more so it can be removed.
+512 give you work units on this power to solve - it makes that traffic between you and pool is less than if you not use it.

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I should also mention that I have my difficulty set to 512 by appending +512 to my wallet address, I was using /5000+512 based on a recommendation from some tutorial, but I didn't understand the /5000 and took it out to troubleshoot

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I haven't received a share in over 24 hours, I was running 1.6 TH/s for most of the day, and a few hours ago added some to total 2.5 TH/s. I had been getting two or three shares a day consistently for the last couple weeks. Is there some way to troubleshoot this to make sure all is working? I have a local node running p2pool in Linux and six antminer S3s. I don't see any complaints in the p2pool log, and the status page looks ok, just no new shares. Should I restart p2pool on my local node, is there any penalty in doing a restart, I mean, would I have to wait for some ramp up period again, or does it pick back up where it left off?

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Quote from: nonnakip on November 19, 2014, 04:23:55 AM

I notice that p2pool.info not updating. Are there problems? Does Forrest not have time/interest in maintaining it?

I would be happy to step up to help here. I can also provide hosting if that becomes a issue.

If this is already discussed maybe someone can point me to the discussion?

p2pool.info hasn't worked properly since forrestv took ownership of it many months ago, and yes, he's not interested in fixing it. A better source of p2pool info is:

http://minefast.coincadence.com/p2pool-stats.php

Forrestv no longer participates in any discussions here either - you can try sending him a PM of course regarding taking ownership of p2pool.info - but don't hold your breath waiting for a reply Wink

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I notice that p2pool.info not updating. Are there problems? Does Forrest not have time/interest in maintaining it?

I would be happy to step up to help here. I can also provide hosting if that becomes a issue.

If this is already discussed maybe someone can point me to the discussion?

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 19, 2014, 12:18:28 AM

Quote from: MissouriMiner on November 18, 2014, 11:14:26 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on November 18, 2014, 10:01:31 AM

PPS for P2Pool has arrived! Give it a try and help us beta test.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/p2pool-nastypool-0-fee-prop-on-pplns-ipv6-support-bonus-credits-306611

Miners will notice a significant improvement to payout variance along with regular weekly payments.

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The NastyPool-PPS payout system has gone live. I think this is particularly beneficial for smaller miners who are looking to support a decentralized mining network while at the same time greatly reducing their variance from typical P2Pool nodes. I urge miners to give it a try and let me know your feedback.

server: nastyfans.org:9332
username: 1YourBitcoinAddress-PPS
password: anything
statistics: https://nastyfans.org/miners/

That's good to know for small miners, but still doesn't help the bad luck we're seeing in finding blocks. Over the past 5 days (120+ hours), only 4 blocks were found. Not blaming you, of course. I'm just disappointed in the (bad) luck in block solving. I was hoping Bitmain's Antpool P2P solution would help P2Pool by adding more hashrate, which should increase the number of blocks found, purely from a statistics perspective. But the jury is still out on the overall value of Antpool P2P to P2Pool. Or maybe a better way to put it is, many believe Antpool P2P does not add value to P2Pool's core fundamentals of mining decentralization. The same could be said regarding NastyPool. I'm not saying that is a bad thing. It's just that your pool is similar to a traditional pool, as it shows up to the P2Pool chain as a single Bitcoin address.

The goal was to build a more traditional style payout solution on the back of the P2Pool network to solve the high share difficulty level that discourages small and mid-sized miners with erratic payouts. You can now get weekly payouts by mining P2Pool via NastyPool with as little as 10MH/s. I think that does add value to P2Pool.

I agree with your statements, and small miners definitely need the type of help your pool provides. Even a 1TH/s miner is only getting 1 share every 12 or so hours. I did not intend any negative comments about your pool. I mainly tried to reference community feedback regarding the value of Antpool P2P towards decentralization, and it has more to do with the way Bitmain advertised their work towards P2Pool. And I thought your pool had a similar approach, therefore you got hit with my shrapnel. Sorry about that. Bitmain made a statement several weeks (months?) ago that they were going to merge a decent sized pool (~5 PH/s) into P2Pool and add value to P2Pool's existing implementation. It turns out their implementation is not what was expected by the community majority, or so it seems. The discussion can be found here. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitmain-announces-antpool-855548 By the way, I really like Bitmain's hardware. For me they have been rock solid, and customer support has been good. They sent me an S3 controller card when I essentially bricked an S3 with a firmware upgrade fail. But this does not mean I agree 100% with everything they do. I'm still waiting to see the final outcome of their P2P, and hoping for the best.

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Quote from: MissouriMiner on November 18, 2014, 11:14:26 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on November 18, 2014, 10:01:31 AM

PPS for P2Pool has arrived! Give it a try and help us beta test.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/p2pool-nastypool-0-fee-prop-on-pplns-ipv6-support-bonus-credits-306611

Miners will notice a significant improvement to payout variance along with regular weekly payments.

Quote

The NastyPool-PPS payout system has gone live. I think this is particularly beneficial for smaller miners who are looking to support a decentralized mining network while at the same time greatly reducing their variance from typical P2Pool nodes. I urge miners to give it a try and let me know your feedback.

server: nastyfans.org:9332
username: 1YourBitcoinAddress-PPS
password: anything
statistics: https://nastyfans.org/miners/

That's good to know for small miners, but still doesn't help the bad luck we're seeing in finding blocks. Over the past 5 days (120+ hours), only 4 blocks were found. Not blaming you, of course. I'm just disappointed in the (bad) luck in block solving. I was hoping Bitmain's Antpool P2P solution would help P2Pool by adding more hashrate, which should increase the number of blocks found, purely from a statistics perspective. But the jury is still out on the overall value of Antpool P2P to P2Pool. Or maybe a better way to put it is, many believe Antpool P2P does not add value to P2Pool's core fundamentals of mining decentralization. The same could be said regarding NastyPool. I'm not saying that is a bad thing. It's just that your pool is similar to a traditional pool, as it shows up to the P2Pool chain as a single Bitcoin address.

The goal was to build a more traditional style payout solution on the back of the P2Pool network to solve the high share difficulty level that discourages small and mid-sized miners with erratic payouts. You can now get weekly payouts by mining P2Pool via NastyPool with as little as 10MH/s. I think that does add value to P2Pool.

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By the way, for any miners in the US-Midwest looking to mine on P2Pool, or looking for a backup, my node is fast and free. Grin

The server has a i5-3350p (Ivy Bridge), which is plenty fast for single thread performance, which is where it matters. 16GB DDR3-2133, ASUS Sabertooth Z77 Motherboard, RAID-1 240GB Samsung SSD. And here's the most important part; a dedicated business network line (100Mb down, 4Mbit up) only for Bitcoin P2Pool. All my other networking is using a residential line. Anyway.. if you have a need, check it out. I live in the suburbs of St. Louis. The website is very basic with just the mining statistics for now. When my Bitmain L1 arrives, I will get my Litecoin P2Pool node running again. Cool

http://bitcoin.missouriminer.com:9332/

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 18, 2014, 10:01:31 AM

PPS for P2Pool has arrived! Give it a try and help us beta test.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/p2pool-nastypool-0-fee-prop-on-pplns-ipv6-support-bonus-credits-306611

Small miners will notice a significant improvement to payout variance along with regular weekly payments.

Quote

The NastyPool-PPS payout system has gone live. I think this is particularly beneficial for smaller miners who are looking to support a decentralized mining network while at the same time greatly reducing their variance from typical P2Pool nodes. I urge miners to give it a try and let me know your feedback.

server: nastyfans.org:9332
username: 1YourBitcoinAddress-PPS
password: anything
statistics: https://nastyfans.org/miners/

That's good to know for small miners, but still doesn't help the bad luck we're seeing in finding blocks. Over the past 5 days (120+ hours), only 4 blocks were found. Not blaming you, of course. I'm just disappointed in the (bad) luck in block solving. I was hoping Bitmain's Antpool P2P solution would help P2Pool by adding more hashrate, which should increase the number of blocks found, purely from a statistics perspective. But the jury is still out on the overall value of Antpool P2P to P2Pool. Or maybe a better way to put it is, many believe Antpool P2P does not add value to P2Pool's core fundamentals of mining decentralization. The same could be said regarding NastyPool. I'm not saying that is a bad thing. It's just that your pool is similar to a traditional pool, as it shows up to the P2Pool chain as a single Bitcoin address.

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PPS for P2Pool has arrived! Give it a try and help us beta test.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/p2pool-nastypool-0-fee-prop-on-pplns-ipv6-support-bonus-credits-306611

Miners will notice a significant improvement to payout variance along with regular weekly payments.

Quote

The NastyPool-PPS payout system has gone live. I think this is particularly beneficial for smaller miners who are looking to support a decentralized mining network while at the same time greatly reducing their variance from typical P2Pool nodes. I urge miners to give it a try and let me know your feedback.

server: nastyfans.org:9332
username: 1YourBitcoinAddress-PPS
password: anything
statistics: https://nastyfans.org/miners/

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Quote from: MissouriMiner on November 17, 2014, 07:33:07 PM

We sure could use some good luck. Everybody get their good luck charms. Undecided

Indeed.

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We sure could use some good luck. Everybody get their good luck charms. Undecided

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Quote from: PatMan on November 17, 2014, 05:46:38 PM

Quote from: windpath on November 17, 2014, 11:04:07 AM

Quote from: IYFTech on November 17, 2014, 10:50:54 AM

Who just added 2Ph? Shocked

AntPool?

Edit: We had a similar spike back in October, the ~2PH/s did not stick around long, could be p2pool is a fail-over for a large mine??

Looks like you're right - whoever it was has gone again......

Edit: Has anyone sifted through the changes made by Bitmain in their p2pool git repo yet? Any thoughts? I'm shite with python code, so it's over my head I'm afraid..... Tongue

I don't think their changes mean squat. If they change any of the fundamental pieces of p2pool, the rest of the network will reject the work, essentially forking the chain. So it's won't be p2pool.. maybe antpool? But definitely not p2pool.

M

EDIT: It'd be like someone "improving" Bitcoin by tweaking the protocol. That's fine if you want a new coin, but don't expect the Bitcoin network to accept it.

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Quote from: windpath on November 17, 2014, 11:04:07 AM

Quote from: IYFTech on November 17, 2014, 10:50:54 AM

Who just added 2Ph? Shocked

AntPool?

Edit: We had a similar spike back in October, the ~2PH/s did not stick around long, could be p2pool is a fail-over for a large mine??

Looks like you're right - whoever it was has gone again......

Edit: Has anyone sifted through the changes made by Bitmain in their p2pool git repo yet? Any thoughts? I'm shite with python code, so it's over my head I'm afraid..... Tongue

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Quote from: windpath on November 17, 2014, 09:41:08 AM

Quote from: jedimstr on November 17, 2014, 07:05:17 AM

The latest block that paid out 330410 isn't showing on my node's list. Usually this type of thing is due to a block that was orphaned in p2pool but valid on the Bitcoin network.

The difference for this one is that Coincadence (http://minefast.coincadence.com/p2pool-stats.php) usually shows when this happens on the right most column, but for 330410, it's listed as valid(green checkmark). I double checked other people's nodes and none of them show this block.

So not to look a gift horse in the mouth but... Anyone have any ideas why this one wouldn't show? Is it actually orphaned on p2pool's network even though Coincadence shows it's not?

It was most likely DOA when submitted to whatever node found it, but met the minimum bitcoin difficulty so was submitted to bitcoin, propagated and accepted

If it is accepted by bitcoind and confirmed we will show it as valid, those shown as orphan are actually orphaned.

I keep the 3 popular front ends live on my node as well, none of them saw it:

http://minefast.coincadence.com:9332/static/original/
http://minefast.coincadence.com:9332/static/node-status/
http://minefast.coincadence.com:9332/static/extended/

I'm able to find these and show them here:

http://minefast.coincadence.com/p2pool-stats.php

By scanning bitcoind blocks for the share hash (the share hash is the last 8 characters of the block hash)..

For block 330410:
Share Hash: 7b853c9b
Block Hash: 00000000000000001747b51ad4fc5590668ac17752bf6aa14cac12637b853c9b

Thanks, I misunderstood what the checkmark showed in your stats... I knew you were scanning bitcoind history for p2pool DOA/valid Bitcoin blocks, but thought you were identifying those cases with the "not" symbol. So those listed with that symbol in your stats, they're actually fully DOA on both networks.

Ever thought of adding another column then since you have the data to identify DOA on P2pool but valid BTC blocks?

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Quote from: IYFTech on November 17, 2014, 10:50:54 AM

Who just added 2Ph? Shocked

AntPool?

We will be able to spot the address (assuming it's a single address) on my node after the next block is found...

Here is the current top 27 miners (by % of current share chain)

Edit: We had a similar spike back in October, the ~2PH/s did not stick around long, could be p2pool is a fail-over for a large mine??

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Who just added 2Ph? Shocked

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Quote from: jedimstr on November 17, 2014, 07:05:17 AM

The latest block that paid out 330410 isn't showing on my node's list. Usually this type of thing is due to a block that was orphaned in p2pool but valid on the Bitcoin network.

The difference for this one is that Coincadence (http://minefast.coincadence.com/p2pool-stats.php) usually shows when this happens on the right most column, but for 330410, it's listed as valid(green checkmark). I double checked other people's nodes and none of them show this block.

So not to look a gift horse in the mouth but... Anyone have any ideas why this one wouldn't show? Is it actually orphaned on p2pool's network even though Coincadence shows it's not?

It was most likely DOA when submitted to whatever node found it, but met the minimum bitcoin difficulty so was submitted to bitcoin, propagated and accepted

If it is accepted by bitcoind and confirmed we will show it as valid, those shown as orphan are actually orphaned.

I keep the 3 popular front ends live on my node as well, none of them saw it:

http://minefast.coincadence.com:9332/static/original/
http://minefast.coincadence.com:9332/static/node-status/
http://minefast.coincadence.com:9332/static/extended/

I'm able to find these and show them here:

http://minefast.coincadence.com/p2pool-stats.php

By scanning bitcoind blocks for the share hash (the share hash is the last 8 characters of the block hash)..

For block 330410:
Share Hash: 7b853c9b
Block Hash: 00000000000000001747b51ad4fc5590668ac17752bf6aa14cac12637b853c9b

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