Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool - page 291. (Read 2591971 times)

I see that you changed your pool to Matt's fork (python included) as well. Did you try to use your extended node status and found that it did not work? I too have seen an improvement as others with Matt's fork but lost the ability to run a parallel version. I am really asking to verify that it is not just me? This is by no means a discredit to Matt's efforts as the loss of a "pretty" display does not take away from the improved performance.

The biggest gain I'd say to using the combined version is that you won't need Java on your machine.

I'm going to switch my public node to using the combined version, see if it helps.

M

Nice results on the RelayNode mod... But how does it compare to having the standalone java node and p2pool instance versus the combined python implementation?  Pros/cons? Would pypy execution make any appreciable difference for the modified p2pool instance? 

Right now I'm running the mainline p2pool via pypy and Matt's java Relay separately and it's functioning fine, so I'm interested if there would be any gain to switch to the combined implementation.

Just a followup on Matt's fork with the python-based relay included.

Version: unknown 7032706f6f6c2d6d6173746572
Pool rate: 2.45PH/s (13% DOA+orphan) Share difficulty: 11500000
Node uptime: 13.5 hours Peers: 6 out, 5 in
Local rate: 3.03TH/s (1.7% DOA) Expected time to share: 4.5 hours
Shares: 2 total (0 orphaned, 0 dead) Efficiency: 115.0%

Did a restart of P2pool unfortunately as something maxed out my upload bandwidth otherwise would have a full 24+ hour snap shot.
Turned out the be a web browser client & not p2pool but now I know to trust p2pool over any other app!

So low DOA and a respectable Getwork Latency Mean of 0.305s using Antminer S1s and S3s

Matt's relay node mod has made a real difference to my p2pool node.

Thanks Matt!

if the share diff to raise the reward was lower, it would be much easier for small-scale miners have a constant reward, let us realize that now with 3ph/s is really shocking make a share and many are coming out.

The latest shares I made have given me 5mbtc which is very much higher than the daily reward of a small miner, the scale of the reward should be much more fragmented imho and, in this way, many more people participate

I do not understand the discourse that many are coming out of the pool because they have old hardware. there should be a replacement ... I think if people with older hardware comes out other with new should arrive, but it is not.

E

The best routes I've found for AUS/NZ are to the US on the Southern Cross cable.



The C - D - E1 route is

C -    ae1-10.tkbr12.global-gateway.net.nz -    0 |   52 |   52 |   18 |   25 |   37 |   27 |
    xe7-0-1-10.lebr7.global-gateway.net.nz -    0 |   52 |   52 |  141 |  150 |  184 |  144 |
E1 -    ae3-10.sjbr3.global-gateway.net.nz -    0 |   52 |   52 |  145 |  162 |  188 |  154 |

Not too bad for 12,000+ kms

Asia is all over the show as you can see with that SYD-JPY-SIN path using NTT.

Pacnet is a long time provider in the Asia Pacific area and have a new DC in SIN that may be an option

http://www.pacnet.com/data-center-services/hardware-as-a-service/

Not sure of the pricing for this, you'd have to drop them an email.

 

More and more blocks with p2pool which is nice, however Is it really useful now for smaller miners?

24 Hour average hash rate passes 3 PH/s!

We have been experimenting with LBR (Latency Based Routing) on the AWS platform. The routes from "outliers" are almost always geographically bizarre, and as far as latency is concerned are about 90% accurate on the current fastest route. What I have realized is that they will pick the most reliable fastest route, which is not always fastest, but is more likely to reach its destination...

That is some strange routing indeed...NZ->JPY->SIN and NZ->SJC->SEA...are there any providers you know of in SIN that have proper routes from NZ? I was gonna move the SIN server to another provider in SIN anyway...

I ran mine like this as others with very good results in both power and stability. Here is the thread with some good guides. There is a resistor change you can perform as well but the quick and very easy approach is the pencil mod IMHO. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/guide-undervolt-antminer-s1-119wgh-at-the-wall-526060

Not really sure what the pencil does??? I did read it a few months ago but not sure I understood.... Any info? Thanks

New Zealand

A Sydney or Auckland node would help the AUS/NZ region for sure.

You can see the routes below

First the public.au.relay.mattcorallo.com


      Host                                           -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
                           fw                          -    0 |   51 |   51 |    0 |    0 |    2 |    1 |
               xxxxxxxx.jetstream.xtra.co.nz  -    3 |   48 |   47 |   14 |   24 |   57 |   17 |
mdr-ip20e-int.msc.global-gateway.net.nz -    0 |   51 |   51 |   21 |   32 |   62 |   22 |
      ae0-10.akbr6.global-gateway.net.nz -    3 |   48 |   47 |   17 |   24 |   59 |   22 |
        ae5-2.akbr7.global-gateway.net.nz -    0 |   51 |   51 |   17 |   30 |   55 |   24 |
     ae1-10.tkbr12.global-gateway.net.nz -    0 |   51 |   51 |   17 |   24 |   58 |   18 |
     xe0-1-0.sebr1.global-gateway.net.nz -    0 |   51 |   51 |   40 |   54 |   82 |   53 |
      ae1-10.sebr2.global-gateway.net.nz -    0 |   51 |   51 |   40 |   54 |   85 |   51 |
xe-3-1-0.a00.sydnau02.au.ra.gin.ntt.net -    0 |   51 |   51 |   40 |   54 |   81 |   48 |
xe-3-1-0.r00.sydnau02.au.bb.gin.ntt.net -    0 |   51 |   51 |  183 |  196 |  259 |  188 |
        as-0.r22.tokyjp01.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net -    0 |   51 |   51 |  196 |  217 |  253 |  210 |
       ae-5.r21.sngpsi05.sg.bb.gin.ntt.net -    0 |   51 |   51 |  261 |  299 |  359 |  266 |
     ae-13.r00.sngpsi02.sg.bb.gin.ntt.net -    0 |   51 |   51 |  298 |  314 |  342 |  301 |
                                   116.51.27.190 -    0 |   51 |   51 |  270 |  284 |  315 |  280 |
                                103.253.144.242 -    0 |   51 |   51 |  294 |  307 |  342 |  305 |
              do-sgp1.relay.mattcorallo.com -    0 |   51 |   51 |  272 |  284 |  316 |  282 |


Next the public.us-west.relay.mattcorallo.com which I'm using.


                                   fw                 -    0 |   52 |   52 |    0 |    0 |    1 |    0 |
          xxxxxx.jetstream.xtra.co.nz          -   0 |   52 |   52 |   14 |   24 |  40 |   26 |
mdr-ip20e-int.msc.global-gateway.net.nz -   0 |   52 |   52 |   18 |   25 |   41 |   26 |
       ae0-10.akbr6.global-gateway.net.nz -   0 |   52 |   52 |   17 |   25 |   37 |   29 |
        ae5-2.akbr7.global-gateway.net.nz -    0 |   52 |   52 |   17 |   25 |   41 |   29 |
     ae1-10.tkbr12.global-gateway.net.nz -    0 |   52 |   52 |   18 |   25 |   37 |   27 |
 xe7-0-1-10.lebr7.global-gateway.net.nz -    0 |   52 |   52 |  141 |  150 |  184 |  144 |
       ae3-10.sjbr3.global-gateway.net.nz -    0 |   52 |   52 |  145 |  162 |  188 |  154 |
           ae0.pabr5.global-gateway.net.nz -    0 |   52 |   52 |  145 |  152 |  169 |  146 |
        ae-8.r06.plalca01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net -    0 |   52 |   52 |  181 |  188 |  207 |  188 |
      ae-15.r02.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net -    0 |   52 |   52 |  166 |  174 |  189 |  169 |
       ae-7.r21.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net -    0 |   52 |   52 |  174 |  187 |  263 |  176 |
       ae-3.r20.sttlwa01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net -    3 |   48 |   47 |  193 |  196 |  221 |  194 |
       ae-1.r04.sttlwa01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net -    0 |   52 |   52 |  167 |  173 |  196 |  171 |
                       No response from host -  100 |   11 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
                       No response from host -  100 |   11 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
              rn-sea1.relay.mattcorallo.com -    0 |   52 |   52 |  193 |  200 |  219 |  194 |

:-)

Where are you? Would a local node help?

Have you thought about the pencil mod for your S1s? You could still be in the game for a bit longer then sell them in a few more months. Just a thought.

Couldn't agree more...

It's good that you've at least gotten to the point where you're a little ahead.  Sadly there's many who haven't and may never, and it'll be a completely losing proposition for them.  If you sell your equipment now you'll even be that much more ahead of the game, and like you said if you can get maybe just one or two things to keep it going as a hobby it'll be enough.  I think honestly that's how many will need to treat it - a hobby where they understand they may lose more than they invest but it's still kinda a neat thing to be part of.

Mining is certainly more about the passion and the geeky side of it than any rational explanation can bear.  I suffer the same disease...

Ooooh that looks purdy!  Can't wait...

I totally agree with you and understand what is going on. I was just curious to hear from others. I understand the difficulty levels and the drop in pay.... As we all know, it dosent stop the electric bill and its HUGE.
I love mining and all of it, but I dont want to take my money and invest thousands more and be behind the eight ball for months to catch up like I did with this 5000.00 investment on the 4 T. I am finally ahead of the game and made a few bucks.
I am at that crossroad.... yes I could invest again and start all over...... I dont know its a dilemma that I have to come to grips with. Maybe I will sell off all of my S-1's and just run 1 S-2 at some pool to keep my hands and head in the game............  Thanks for your thoughts as thats all I was looking for!......
Nobody understands this crazy game we play but those of us wrapped up in it!!!

I think you're going to see the same results on any other pool, although your payments will probably be more consistent on a larger pool, though not much more in value.  This is not a p2pool issue, but the way bitcoin works in general, and which is why so many miners are starting to call it quits.

For example I switched my terraminers back over to BTCGuild a few weeks back because I found they suffered the 20% loss problem just like the S2's (it's about 10 pages back in the thread I think).  The 3.2TH/s over at BTCGuild were making the same amount on average per day than they were pointed at p2pool - roughly .05 - .07 BTC per day depending on luck.  Now, I say on average per day, because BTCGuild is larger and finds more blocks so you get more frequent, even payouts, while p2pool has less blocks but less folks so your payouts are less frequent but more value.

A few months ago those same terraminers were making more than double that per day on BTCGuild.

In the past 3 months we have had to go from the original 3.2TH/s up to our current over 10TH/s to keep our payment amounts at the least even with when we started.

That's the nature of the BTC mining beast.  Difficulty rises, and you need to invest in the same % hash upgrades to your farm to keep your payouts the same.  If you don't, your income trails off and you are in the position now where you're making less and it's costing more to make less.

There's a thread here - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/benchmark-p2pool-vs-btcguild-vs-eligius-416933 - where they did a comparison of 3 pools - p2pool, BTCGuild and Eligius - where they pointed 6 S1's at each pool.  The most important thing to look at is how over time since January you will see the payouts per week dwindle down from 3 BTC per week when it started to less than 0.5 BTC now, 8 months later.  You can see how the same hashrate becomes less and less over time, if it stays the same and is not increased.

I hope this helps to answer your questions.  By all means, please go ahead and try other pools and see what it's like.  I just personally think it's not going to make a very large difference either way.

Sorry, ran out for a few hours and didn't reply to this.

Yes, P2Pool is different than most other pools in that your miner is configured with your actual BTC payment address as the worker name.  So, whenever a block is found and that address has at least one share in the chain, you get a direct payment to that address.  You can have one or all of your miners use the same worker BTC address, and yes, that address will carry across pools so if you mine on one node then fail over to another, your work will continue there on the same address rather than stopping and restarting.

When you build a node, it comes with it's own wallet (since you're running a full bitcoind instance) and default payment address.  You could use that address to receive payments on if you wanted to and had no other wallet address anywhere else.  However, that's not recommended obviously since if your server gets hacked they have easy direct address to the wallet on the node machine and it'll be gone before you can say "boo".