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Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool - page 651. (Read 2591920 times)

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running bitcoind with more connections would (in most cases) mean you'd receive a block faster, hence less DOA

or, in this case, litecoind, or whatever the hell it is


I know I was just playing around with you, I know you meant litecoind.  Cheesy

The Max amount of LTC incoming connections my P2Pool has seen was 25 around a month ago. The Pool in question only has around 9, so right now its at under 50% of total LTC p2pool running.





zvs
legendary
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Ok now I have another question... when I look at my data ...

Shares: 225 total (17 orphaned, 14 dead) Efficiency: 106.1%

that doesn't look too bad but when I look at when I had my gpu in the mining I see in the graphs

http://fearmypenguin.ath.cx:9327/static/graphs.html  

while I was mining with my gpu is when I think I got most of the orphaned and dead shares... how can I tweak this , can I tweak this, is this something I have never seen before because I am usually on a PPS site?

Naelr
I dunno, I'd say 225 shares w/ 17 orphaned and 14 dead is pretty bad...  the efficiency rating may have been high at that particular moment, but most of the time it'd be under 100%... those figures are 15% stale+dead..    Having peers with fast ping times + bitcoind w/ many connections helps

Having bitcoind running in the above problem with 1000 or 1 connections will have no effect on efficiency  Grin (Port 9327 AKA LTC)

But the longer you run LTC p2pool the more connections litecoind has the higher the efficiency rate goes up.
When i start up i always get sub 100% efficiency for a day or so before it goes over 100%

Just to compare stats my LTC p2pool has been running only 1 day more than yours.
I have the same number of incoming and outgoing connections.
my doa rate is .14% lower
I have alot less shares than you, 79 total (5 orphaned, 0 dead) Efficiency: 111.1%
and I'm using minerd only not cgminer

Your DOA rate seems to be proportional to you Hash rate, your hashing @ 500kHs with a doa of maybe 30kHs.

plus i'm sure cgminer has a higher DOA rate because its LTC mining is very recently added to it,and i'm sure it will get better over time.



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running bitcoind with more connections would (in most cases) mean you'd receive a block faster, hence less DOA

or, in this case, litecoind, or whatever the hell it is
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Ok now I have another question... when I look at my data ...

Shares: 225 total (17 orphaned, 14 dead) Efficiency: 106.1%

that doesn't look too bad but when I look at when I had my gpu in the mining I see in the graphs

http://fearmypenguin.ath.cx:9327/static/graphs.html  

while I was mining with my gpu is when I think I got most of the orphaned and dead shares... how can I tweak this , can I tweak this, is this something I have never seen before because I am usually on a PPS site?

Naelr
I dunno, I'd say 225 shares w/ 17 orphaned and 14 dead is pretty bad...  the efficiency rating may have been high at that particular moment, but most of the time it'd be under 100%... those figures are 15% stale+dead..    Having peers with fast ping times + bitcoind w/ many connections helps

Having bitcoind running in the above problem with 1000 or 1 connections will have no effect on efficiency  Grin (Port 9327 AKA LTC)

But the longer you run LTC p2pool the more connections litecoind has the higher the efficiency rate goes up.
When i start up i always get sub 100% efficiency for a day or so before it goes over 100%

Just to compare stats my LTC p2pool has been running only 1 day more than yours.
I have the same number of incoming and outgoing connections.
my doa rate is .14% lower
I have alot less shares than you, 79 total (5 orphaned, 0 dead) Efficiency: 111.1%
and I'm using minerd only not cgminer

Your DOA rate seems to be proportional to you Hash rate, your hashing @ 500kHs with a doa of maybe 30kHs.

plus i'm sure cgminer has a higher DOA rate because its LTC mining is very recently added to it,and i'm sure it will get better over time.

zvs
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Ok now I have another question... when I look at my data ...

Shares: 225 total (17 orphaned, 14 dead) Efficiency: 106.1%

that doesn't look too bad but when I look at when I had my gpu in the mining I see in the graphs

http://fearmypenguin.ath.cx:9327/static/graphs.html  

while I was mining with my gpu is when I think I got most of the orphaned and dead shares... how can I tweak this , can I tweak this, is this something I have never seen before because I am usually on a PPS site?

Naelr
I dunno, I'd say 225 shares w/ 17 orphaned and 14 dead is pretty bad...  the efficiency rating may have been high at that particular moment, but most of the time it'd be under 100%... those figures are 15% stale+dead..    Having peers with fast ping times + bitcoind w/ many connections helps
legendary
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Ok now I have another question... when I look at my data ...

Shares: 225 total (17 orphaned, 14 dead) Efficiency: 106.1%

that doesn't look too bad but when I look at when I had my gpu in the mining I see in the graphs

http://fearmypenguin.ath.cx:9327/static/graphs.html  

while I was mining with my gpu is when I think I got most of the orphaned and dead shares... how can I tweak this , can I tweak this, is this something I have never seen before because I am usually on a PPS site?

Naelr
This is probably miner config issue.
If you are using cgminer make sure you have set:
"queue" : "0"
"gpu-threads" : "1"
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Ok now I have another question... when I look at my data ...

Shares: 225 total (17 orphaned, 14 dead) Efficiency: 106.1%

that doesn't look too bad but when I look at when I had my gpu in the mining I see in the graphs

http://fearmypenguin.ath.cx:9327/static/graphs.html  

while I was mining with my gpu is when I think I got most of the orphaned and dead shares... how can I tweak this , can I tweak this, is this something I have never seen before because I am usually on a PPS site?

Naelr
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Thanks for testing guys... I think I am gonna leave it up so if anyone wants to use it as fail over... feel free.... that Linux box stays on all the time anyway...

I set it up as a 0.5% fee is that too much, on par, or being an ass?  going to work on the other tonight.... please feel free to give more feedback

thanks

Naelr
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Trying to set up a node... I think I did this correctly if anyone would like to try my Litecoin node to help me test it

http://fearmypenguin.ath.cx:9327

Let me know if I did anything wrong... I can't start the Bitcoin/namecoin node yet because my namecoind is still far behind on downloading the blockchain.... and I need to go to bed  Grin

It might be I can't run this because of being on cable modem... but I can move it if I have it running right.

Thanks

Naelr
You CAN start bitcoin merged node, it will just not work correctly till Xcoind`s are downloading blocks Smiley
LTC node works fine.
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Trying to set up a node... I think I did this correctly if anyone would like to try my Litecoin node to help me test it

http://fearmypenguin.ath.cx:9327

Let me know if I did anything wrong... I can't start the Bitcoin/namecoin node yet because my namecoind is still far behind on downloading the blockchain.... and I need to go to bed  Grin

It might be I can't run this because of being on cable modem... but I can move it if I have it running right.

Thanks

Naelr

I tested your LTC pool, and everything works. My miner was able to connect and I was able to see your stats page.

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Trying to set up a node... I think I did this correctly if anyone would like to try my Litecoin node to help me test it

http://fearmypenguin.ath.cx:9327

Let me know if I did anything wrong... I can't start the Bitcoin/namecoin node yet because my namecoind is still far behind on downloading the blockchain.... and I need to go to bed  Grin

It might be I can't run this because of being on cable modem... but I can move it if I have it running right.

Thanks

Naelr
legendary
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Suggestion - when SD is rising over 500:
1. make base share diff (it will be also a minimum pool share diff) as 500
2. calculate miner hashrate in last 5/10/60 seconds and calculate miner share diff proportionally to current pool rate (make SD much higher for big miners)

This way small miners will have chance to find at least few SD500 shares per day and get any payout and bigger miners will have less shares per day than now but way powerful and get propotionally bigger (same as currrent) payout.
legendary
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There were a lot of ideas and concepts how to solve the scaling issues (i.e. high diff drives small miners away). Ideas were several p2pools, nested p2pools, dynamic difficulty and so on.

We should really concentrate on that now. Difficulty is rising again, and soon it will all skyrocket with BFL. "We" probably means a bounty or something to get good programmers on it.
Don't forget it will take a lot of time to adjust and test! I would expect some months on testnet, before it goes productive!

Ente
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I`m very small miner, may avg power is only 150MH. When it (share diff) was ~500 i found 5-8 shares/day. Now when it is over 1000 i found nothing. Mining LTC now.

You can decrease the difficulty.  I think it'll drive up your stale rate, but I think it'll get you shares.

M
Um, no, you can't... if the difficulty you set via the /### option, is less than the current share diff, then you mine at the share diff.

-- Smoov
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p2pool.info is showing a block (193781) that wasn't solved by p2pool

I was about to post about this. Blockchain info also shows it solved by p2pool but didn't pay p2pool users. Anyone know what's up with this?
Interesting thing about that block ( http://blockchain.info/block-height/193781 )
is that it contains an address in the normal P2Pool payouts also:

http://blockchain.info/address/1Kz5QaUPDtKrj5SqW5tFkn7WZh8LmQaQi4

The other addresses that 193781 paid are single use addresses.

... so ... who is 1Kz5QaUPDtKrj5SqW5tFkn7WZh8LmQaQi4 ?

They will know what's going on.

And you should be able to track them down from the share chain also ...

Edit: oh that may just be the donation address for forrestv ?
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I was about to post about this. Blockchain info also shows it solved by p2pool but didn't pay p2pool users. Anyone know what's up with this?

Heh.  Either the old fork or a private pool using p2pool source code found a block.  I marked it as a false p2pool block and it's gone from the list now.

Roll Eyes

I'm not sure how, but the share difficulty dropped and I'm finding shares again. Woot! Grin
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p2pool.info is showing a block (193781) that wasn't solved by p2pool

I was about to post about this. Blockchain info also shows it solved by p2pool but didn't pay p2pool users. Anyone know what's up with this?
hero member
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p2pool.info is showing a block (193781) that wasn't solved by p2pool

I don't see it when I visit the site. I see 193784 though.
hero member
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p2pool.info is showing a block (193781) that wasn't solved by p2pool

Heh.  Either the old fork or a private pool using p2pool source code found a block.  I marked it as a false p2pool block and it's gone from the list now.
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p2pool.info is showing a block (193781) that wasn't solved by p2pool
legendary
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I`m very small miner, may avg power is only 150MH. When it (share diff) was ~500 i found 5-8 shares/day. Now when it is over 1000 i found nothing. Mining LTC now.

You can decrease the difficulty.  I think it'll drive up your stale rate, but I think it'll get you shares.

M
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