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legendary
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The Concierge of Crypto
March 24, 2013, 10:15:35 AM
#71
You buy the card at $100. Or $109 from that first reseller. You get 10 bitcoins when you redeem it.
hero member
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March 24, 2013, 08:31:27 AM
#70
Let us say that I'm buying a 100 dollar card and will redeem it when bitcoin is trading at 10 dollars. How much do I pay when buying the card and how many bitcoins do I get when I redeem?
sr. member
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QUIFAS EXCHANGE
March 24, 2013, 04:40:28 AM
#69
question...


1) how do you plan on dealing with fraud, i see you pass on that problem to your re-sellers, is it something they are aware of?

2) if i buy the 100$ card today, and redeem it 10 days from now ( lets say bitcoin droped to 50$ by then ) would i get 2 bitcoin - some FEE??

I hope that resellers are aware that they are selling a stored-value card that once redeemed cannot be revoked.

I would also like to know if there is a conversion fee upon redeeming the card. The 2.99 fee is actually competitive to doing moneypak trades with individuals, so i'm hoping that there is no other fees.

^^ In other words, don't sell for $$ and send/sell Bitcoins in exchange. We are back to square one when it comes to buying bitcoins! as clearly this won't work Sad ^^

I mean don't get me wrong this is great for scammers and the fraudsters! they will rape you for everything you got! Grin
The cards would be fine as long as they are physically purchased... i.e., inside a Walmart where they can be activated.  I would never attempt to sell them online without physically shipping something though.


LOL, more than likely the reporter just got BitInstant's method of buying Bitcoins mixed up with

But seriously, they should consider it.  All one would have to do is point to the thousands (perhaps tens of thousands) of users still waiting to buy Bitcoins through BitInstant, MtGox, Coinbase, etc.  It is almost impossible to buy Bitcoins right now for someone just now getting in...

inquiries are sent to exchanges and coinbase...I wonder which ones will reply. It could be so easy to load your wallet with giftcoins...if no positive feedback we will have to make our own wallet then Smiley
legendary
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RIP Mommy
March 24, 2013, 04:33:02 AM
#68
question...


1) how do you plan on dealing with fraud, i see you pass on that problem to your re-sellers, is it something they are aware of?

2) if i buy the 100$ card today, and redeem it 10 days from now ( lets say bitcoin droped to 50$ by then ) would i get 2 bitcoin - some FEE??

I hope that resellers are aware that they are selling a stored-value card that once redeemed cannot be revoked.

I would also like to know if there is a conversion fee upon redeeming the card. The 2.99 fee is actually competitive to doing moneypak trades with individuals, so i'm hoping that there is no other fees.

^^ In other words, don't sell for $$ and send/sell Bitcoins in exchange. We are back to square one when it comes to buying bitcoins! as clearly this won't work Sad ^^

I mean don't get me wrong this is great for scammers and the fraudsters! they will rape you for everything you got! Grin
The cards would be fine as long as they are physically purchased... i.e., inside a Walmart where they can be activated.  I would never attempt to sell them online without physically shipping something though.


LOL, more than likely the reporter just got BitInstant's method of buying Bitcoins mixed up with

But seriously, they should consider it.  All one would have to do is point to the thousands (perhaps tens of thousands) of users still waiting to buy Bitcoins through BitInstant, MtGox, Coinbase, etc.  It is almost impossible to buy Bitcoins right now for someone just now getting in...

Anybody not on Localbitcoins already needs to get listed, pronto. There should be at least 1 user within 1 hour driving distance, everywhere.
legendary
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March 24, 2013, 03:40:01 AM
#67
question...


1) how do you plan on dealing with fraud, i see you pass on that problem to your re-sellers, is it something they are aware of?

2) if i buy the 100$ card today, and redeem it 10 days from now ( lets say bitcoin droped to 50$ by then ) would i get 2 bitcoin - some FEE??

I hope that resellers are aware that they are selling a stored-value card that once redeemed cannot be revoked.

I would also like to know if there is a conversion fee upon redeeming the card. The 2.99 fee is actually competitive to doing moneypak trades with individuals, so i'm hoping that there is no other fees.

^^ In other words, don't sell for $$ and send/sell Bitcoins in exchange. We are back to square one when it comes to buying bitcoins! as clearly this won't work Sad ^^

I mean don't get me wrong this is great for scammers and the fraudsters! they will rape you for everything you got! Grin
The cards would be fine as long as they are physically purchased... i.e., inside a Walmart where they can be activated.  I would never attempt to sell them online without physically shipping something though.


LOL, more than likely the reporter just got BitInstant's method of buying Bitcoins mixed up with

But seriously, they should consider it.  All one would have to do is point to the thousands (perhaps tens of thousands) of users still waiting to buy Bitcoins through BitInstant, MtGox, Coinbase, etc.  It is almost impossible to buy Bitcoins right now for someone just now getting in...
sr. member
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QUIFAS EXCHANGE
March 24, 2013, 02:50:51 AM
#66
I want to resell them. But I will only accept cash, locally. But my volume is going to be small. And I will have a computer station on standby with internet access so that people can redeem their bitcoins on the spot (or I do it for them.)

They pay me cash, they get bitcoins, plus I get all the fees in between. I can even do this part time. I sent an email, hopefully they don't disregard small time resellers.

Works perfect for a local transactions and accepting cash def.   I was just pointing out some poor soul is going to set up a website and have people buy these in exchange/scammed for bitcoin over the internet and the OP sounds perfectly fine with it because they say the "seller" knows the risks.  And don't worry they will reply to your PM they did with mine.

Have some faith, dont be so pessimistic  Smiley
sr. member
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QUIFAS EXCHANGE
March 24, 2013, 02:49:11 AM
#65
What rate or exchange do you use at the time of redemption? Mt Gox? BitFloor? Also, what exact parameters? Is it like, ask price, bid price, spot price, last price, volume weighted?

Who are the current resellers now?

I think this is one way to buy bitcoins using credit cards world wide.

we are using bitstamp, we looked at mtgox but bitstamp is simple better for as as a whole package. We use last price at the time of redeem minus fees that apply.
legendary
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Bitcoin
March 24, 2013, 02:11:25 AM
#64
I want to resell them. But I will only accept cash, locally. But my volume is going to be small. And I will have a computer station on standby with internet access so that people can redeem their bitcoins on the spot (or I do it for them.)

They pay me cash, they get bitcoins, plus I get all the fees in between. I can even do this part time. I sent an email, hopefully they don't disregard small time resellers.

Works perfect for a local transactions and accepting cash def.   I was just pointing out some poor soul is going to set up a website and have people buy these in exchange/scammed for bitcoin over the internet and the OP sounds perfectly fine with it because they say the "seller" knows the risks.  And don't worry they will reply to your PM they did with mine.
legendary
Activity: 3416
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The Concierge of Crypto
March 24, 2013, 02:02:50 AM
#63
I want to resell them. But I will only accept cash, locally. But my volume is going to be small. And I will have a computer station on standby with internet access so that people can redeem their bitcoins on the spot (or I do it for them.)

They pay me cash, they get bitcoins, plus I get all the fees in between. I can even do this part time. I sent an email, hopefully they don't disregard small time resellers.
legendary
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Bitcoin
legendary
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RIP Mommy
legendary
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Bitcoin
March 24, 2013, 01:53:32 AM
#60
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Who are the current resellers now?
Nobody accept the company mentioned in the post. Anyone who doesn't have a ton of money to compensate for chargebacks ( or is taking bitcoin only orders) will take this up.
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I think this is one way to buy bitcoins using credit cards world wide.
Read above.
legendary
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Bitcoin
March 24, 2013, 01:50:22 AM
#59
question...


1) how do you plan on dealing with fraud, i see you pass on that problem to your re-sellers, is it something they are aware of?

2) if i buy the 100$ card today, and redeem it 10 days from now ( lets say bitcoin droped to 50$ by then ) would i get 2 bitcoin - some FEE??

I hope that resellers are aware that they are selling a stored-value card that once redeemed cannot be revoked.

I would also like to know if there is a conversion fee upon redeeming the card. The 2.99 fee is actually competitive to doing moneypak trades with individuals, so i'm hoping that there is no other fees.

^^ In other words, don't sell for $$ and send/sell Bitcoins in exchange. We are back to square one when it comes to buying bitcoin! as clearly this won't work Sad ^^

Well, I thought this would be a more of a gift to friends/family then buy from a**holes on the Internet sort of thing
Lol ...yes, lets hope so. I just want to make sure the OP is clear to the people who are looking to re-sell this or be a "re-seller" for this service know the risks that are involved. He seems pretty nonchalant about it saying "All sellers have risks with any items" and it shouldn't be a big deal ... he hasn't experienced Bitcoin yet then .  Since I can only go by his newb count posts I'm assuming he is a newb in this respect. Let's hope the "resellers" are bigger places who can afford to get raped by scammers here.
legendary
Activity: 3416
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The Concierge of Crypto
March 24, 2013, 01:44:02 AM
#58
What rate or exchange do you use at the time of redemption? Mt Gox? BitFloor? Also, what exact parameters? Is it like, ask price, bid price, spot price, last price, volume weighted?

Who are the current resellers now?

I think this is one way to buy bitcoins using credit cards world wide.
hero member
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Merit: 500
March 24, 2013, 12:42:26 AM
#57
question...


1) how do you plan on dealing with fraud, i see you pass on that problem to your re-sellers, is it something they are aware of?

2) if i buy the 100$ card today, and redeem it 10 days from now ( lets say bitcoin droped to 50$ by then ) would i get 2 bitcoin - some FEE??

I hope that resellers are aware that they are selling a stored-value card that once redeemed cannot be revoked.

I would also like to know if there is a conversion fee upon redeeming the card. The 2.99 fee is actually competitive to doing moneypak trades with individuals, so i'm hoping that there is no other fees.

^^ In other words, don't sell for $$ and send/sell Bitcoins in exchange. We are back to square one when it comes to buying bitcoin! as clearly this won't work Sad ^^

Well, I thought this would be a more of a gift to friends/family then buy from a**holes on the Internet sort of thing
legendary
Activity: 1330
Merit: 1000
Bitcoin
March 24, 2013, 12:28:03 AM
#56
question...


1) how do you plan on dealing with fraud, i see you pass on that problem to your re-sellers, is it something they are aware of?

2) if i buy the 100$ card today, and redeem it 10 days from now ( lets say bitcoin droped to 50$ by then ) would i get 2 bitcoin - some FEE??

I hope that resellers are aware that they are selling a stored-value card that once redeemed cannot be revoked.

I would also like to know if there is a conversion fee upon redeeming the card. The 2.99 fee is actually competitive to doing moneypak trades with individuals, so i'm hoping that there is no other fees.

^^ In other words, don't sell for $$ and send/sell Bitcoins in exchange. We are back to square one when it comes to buying bitcoins! as clearly this won't work Sad ^^

I mean don't get me wrong this is great for scammers and the fraudsters! they will rape you for everything you got! Grin
sr. member
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QUIFAS EXCHANGE
March 23, 2013, 09:58:03 PM
#55
And what about VAT?

what about it? Please be more specific
sr. member
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QUIFAS EXCHANGE
March 23, 2013, 09:55:40 PM
#54
question...


1) how do you plan on dealing with fraud, i see you pass on that problem to your re-sellers, is it something they are aware of?

2) if i buy the 100$ card today, and redeem it 10 days from now ( lets say bitcoin droped to 50$ by then ) would i get 2 bitcoin - some FEE??


resellers are aware of the risk, there is always a risk when selling something

card is always worth $100 at the time of redeeming, redeem today and you wil get 1.4BTC, redeem in a 2 months if bitcoin is worth$200 and you would get 0.5BTC.. % of card value is always deducted so same profit is always paid to resellers and us providing this service
hero member
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Z-pay.io
March 23, 2013, 09:53:15 PM
#53
And what about VAT?
sr. member
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QUIFAS EXCHANGE
March 23, 2013, 09:51:13 PM
#52
A lot of places that sell "gift cards" only accept cash (and sometimes debit). I hope and assume that stores selling physical versions of these will be taking such precautions. Especially early resellers/venders.

sure there is physical one as well, just jagoo doesn't sell those Smiley I can send them to anyone just shipping will take some time, not fast option at all

So, the physical ones don't have the security measures in place like the similar "gift cards" you see at walmart and such? They're just a redeem code on a card?


security measures, well code on the back is protected by the scratch off foil and those cards have to be activated first, otherwise if you "get" cards that are not activated they will be just nice cards without any value, not possible to redeem
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