1st European BTC embassy closes down

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Quote from: kingscrown on March 15, 2015, 11:23:16 PM

Quote from: countryfree on March 15, 2015, 10:00:50 AM

Who needs a BTC embassy? How do you make sure the people there are representative of BTC? Who pays them? Or do they volunteer?

While other countire have volunteer embassies the polish one was an LTD company with investors, selling shares for their projects and such.
There were many free community events there but it was a company like any other in other businesses.

Well if people in other countries can afford run this kind of project as full time job for free they must be rich bunch. In Poland people are not earning much usually, so if you want to run bitcoin embassy as volunteer you either have to work full time and plus do your job in embassy or be rich bitcoin enthusiast to begin with.

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Quote from: countryfree on March 15, 2015, 10:00:50 AM

Who needs a BTC embassy? How do you make sure the people there are representative of BTC? Who pays them? Or do they volunteer?

While other countire have volunteer embassies the polish one was an LTD company with investors, selling shares for their projects and such.
There were many free community events there but it was a company like any other in other businesses.

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Quote from: mishax1 on March 15, 2015, 10:29:40 AM

The Bitcoin Embassy in Tel Aviv are usually the ones that organize the meetups and the conferences and has a lot of services for new and advanced Bitcoiners, it's actually apretty great idea to have an Embassy and I think most of the if not all are volunteers.

And such embassies are probably a first place to go for all the local/national media, whenever they need those for the expertise or debates.

But as for the Polish one, I've read somewhere that there were some rather serious money involved, but I cannot figure how did they generate any revenue. I'll check the Polish forum and ask for more details...

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The Bitcoin Embassy in Tel Aviv are usually the ones that organize the meetups and the conferences and has a lot of services for new and advanced Bitcoiners, it's actually apretty great idea to have an Embassy and I think most of the if not all are volunteers.

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Who needs a BTC embassy? How do you make sure the people there are representative of BTC? Who pays them? Or do they volunteer?

I've been to a few BTC meetups, that was very informal, but who needs more?

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Quote from: picolo on March 14, 2015, 06:22:12 PM

Quote from: kingscrown on March 14, 2015, 01:19:09 AM

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2yzvri/first_european_bitcoin_embassy_shuts_down/
http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2yzvvf/first_european_bitcoin_embassy_shuts_down/

full text: http://fuk.io/first-european-bitcoin-embassy-shuts-down/

france was just 1 or 2 days late, yet stayed alive Wink

In Poland ?

1st EU embassy was in Warsaw/Poland, few days later [maybe indeed 1 or 2] France opened one.

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Quote from: kingscrown on March 14, 2015, 01:19:09 AM

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2yzvri/first_european_bitcoin_embassy_shuts_down/
http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2yzvvf/first_european_bitcoin_embassy_shuts_down/

full text: http://fuk.io/first-european-bitcoin-embassy-shuts-down/

france was just 1 or 2 days late, yet stayed alive Wink

In Poland ?

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Quote from: redsn0w on March 14, 2015, 05:37:10 PM

We don't know at 100% if it is all BS, maybe someone who lives near their "office" and check what is real happened. Can someone who know the polish language translate all the article in english?

They've provided rough translation themselves:

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Quote from: L on March 14, 2015, 05:28:32 PM

They sold shares?

IPOing is really the bitcoin way...

Indeed. It seems like IPOing yourself to richness is the way most bitcoin scammers operate. I cant think of a single IPO that hasn't been a scam lol.

They used a word 'shares' in the translation, although original text (in Polish) refers to bonds not shares. But afaik the embassy was incorporated and has/had share capital.

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Quote from: L on March 14, 2015, 05:28:32 PM

They sold shares?

IPOing is really the bitcoin way...

Indeed. It seems like IPOing yourself to richness is the way most bitcoin scammers operate. I cant think of a single IPO that hasn't been a scam lol.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on March 14, 2015, 04:22:49 PM

Quote from: redsn0w on March 14, 2015, 03:42:45 PM

Quote from: dzambodzetem on March 14, 2015, 03:24:43 PM

Basically they write that the were intimidated and one of the workers was beaten up, there were loads of bad words, emails and calls with threats. Somebody was not happy that something like Bitcoin Embassy was working. The creators of that embassy got scared and decided to back off and close the place.

If this story will be confirmed, I think that bitcoin is working very well. Who has threatened them is scared by bitcoin and want all the bitcoin related "services" shut down, now I hope that the police station will intervene and investigate.

That's all bull shit. I haven't followed the story much, but they seem to have had some serious internal conflicts (between founders?) for a long time. There was some heavy dispute about the ownership, lots of accusations etc on Polish bitcoin forum.

Some say they decided to close down in to avoid paying their debts:

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Ebassy stays clear 0 without any debts.
Instead of one – of the person who transparently took part of closing Embassy.

Anyway, it's probably for the best.

We don't know at 100% if it is all BS, maybe someone who lives near their "office" can check what is really happened. Can someone who know the polish language translate all the article in english?

Thanks , it would be very appreciated.

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They sold shares?

IPOing is really the bitcoin way...

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soon there will be bigger coverage of the topic in bitcoin magazine, for now fuk.io is the only English source of this.

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Quote from: redsn0w on March 14, 2015, 03:42:45 PM

Quote from: dzambodzetem on March 14, 2015, 03:24:43 PM

Basically they write that the were intimidated and one of the workers was beaten up, there were loads of bad words, emails and calls with threats. Somebody was not happy that something like Bitcoin Embassy was working. The creators of that embassy got scared and decided to back off and close the place.

If this story will be confirmed, I think that bitcoin is working very well. Who has threatened them is scared by bitcoin and want all the bitcoin related "services" shut down, now I hope that the police station will intervene and investigate.

That's all bull shit. I haven't followed the story much, but they seem to have had some serious internal conflicts (between founders?) for a long time. There was some heavy dispute about the ownership, lots of accusations etc on Polish bitcoin forum.

Some say they decided to close down in to avoid paying their debts:

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Ebassy stays clear 0 without any debts.
Instead of one – of the person who transparently took part of closing Embassy.

Anyway, it's probably for the best.

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Quote from: maku on March 14, 2015, 03:58:08 PM

Quote from: dzambodzetem on March 14, 2015, 03:24:43 PM

Basically they write that the were intimidated and one of the workers was beaten up, there were loads of bad words, emails and calls with threats. Somebody was not happy that something like Bitcoin Embassy was working. The creators of that embassy got scared and decided to back off and close the place.

I don't think that it is the whole picture here. I doubt that in civilized country you will end your economic and social activity after just after incident like that.
That Bitcoin Embassy is trying to cover something deeper probably.

The Warsaw Bitcoin embassy's website is still online and I could find nothing about it being closed down. I had to run it through Google translate, but there seems to be nothing about it closing on its home page.

http://www.ambasadabitcoin.pl/

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Quote from: dzambodzetem on March 14, 2015, 03:24:43 PM

Basically they write that the were intimidated and one of the workers was beaten up, there were loads of bad words, emails and calls with threats. Somebody was not happy that something like Bitcoin Embassy was working. The creators of that embassy got scared and decided to back off and close the place.

I don't think that it is the whole picture here. I doubt that in civilized country you will end your economic and social activity after just after incident like that.
That Bitcoin Embassy is trying to cover something deeper probably.

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Quote from: redsn0w on March 14, 2015, 03:42:45 PM

Quote from: dzambodzetem on March 14, 2015, 03:24:43 PM

Basically they write that the were intimidated and one of the workers was beaten up, there were loads of bad words, emails and calls with threats. Somebody was not happy that something like Bitcoin Embassy was working. The creators of that embassy got scared and decided to back off and close the place.

If this story will be confirmed, I think that bitcoin is working very well. Who has threatened them is scared by bitcoin and want all the bitcoin related "services" shut down, now I hope that the police station will intervene and investigate.

Coindesk says Europe's first is located a stone's-throw from the Warsaw Stock Exchange and Poland’s central bank. That's the last place I would expect people getting beaten up. I would expect that kind of area to be swarming with police 24/7.

http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-embassy-launches-polands-capital-warsaw/

Located on Krucza 46 street, right in the city centre, the embassy is a stone's-throw from the Warsaw Stock Exchange and Poland’s central bank – two of the most powerful financial institutions in the Polish economy.

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Quote from: dzambodzetem on March 14, 2015, 03:24:43 PM

Basically they write that the were intimidated and one of the workers was beaten up, there were loads of bad words, emails and calls with threats. Somebody was not happy that something like Bitcoin Embassy was working. The creators of that embassy got scared and decided to back off and close the place.

If this story will be confirmed, I think that bitcoin is working very well. Who has threatened them is scared by bitcoin and want all the bitcoin related "services" shut down, now I hope that the police station will intervene and investigate.

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Basically they write that the were intimidated and one of the workers was beaten up, there were loads of bad words, emails and calls with threats. Somebody was not happy that something like Bitcoin Embassy was working. The creators of that embassy got scared and decided to back off and close the place.

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Quote from: krigger on March 14, 2015, 05:35:35 AM

I wanted to read full text, but it's in Poland language. Anyone have a link to full story in English?

Yes, why did the English translators just do a part of translation? We are eager to know the full story. It is really hitting the positive image of Bitcoin.

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Does it mean like the one in Montreal, Canada referred to in this webpage?

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/brick-mortar-bitcoin-embassies-open-europes-many-bitcoiners/

The first such Bitcoin Embassy came up in Montreal, Canada a few years ago. It is now established as a non-profit organization and has helped establish many Bitcoin companies in Canada, such as pay-bills-with-Bitcoin service Bylls. Brick and Mortar Bitcoin Embassies provide space for Bitcoiners to meet and do all the things that they do.

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