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rby
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August 13, 2022, 08:04:06 AM


I often see 1xbet these days because they have really captured local artists and they have been giving out free bonuses on the first deposit but because they have a similar domain to 1xbit, I refused to register with them, in fact, I block anyone advertising them on Twitter. It is better to be safe than cry later, don't you think?
I am surprised the first time I was told that 1xbit and 1xbet are same thing or are owned by one company. I was surprised because the activities of the two are not the same. One doesn't scam and one scams. How can one company decide to be good with one brand and bad in the other brand?

One similar thing about both 1xbit and 1xbet is that both spend alot for promotions and that is why they still remain popular.
legendary
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August 13, 2022, 12:32:55 AM

1xbit don't pay!!!!!
Hello,

this screenshot doesn't represent any issues on it.
If you are having one, please describe it and let us know your account number.

Check mine please:

https://www.trustpilot.com/reviews/62d301958000af4a88422569

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60578616
This is something that you probably don't want to hear and it is something that some users have told you before on that thread but you are probably never going to recover that money, and the only thing you need to do in order to know that this is the sad truth is to read that thread and to see the reputation of that account, unfortunately the only thing that you can do right now is to learn your lesson and the next time that you decide to use any service like a casino you are way more careful.
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Not Your Keys, Not Your Bitcoin
August 10, 2022, 05:26:47 PM
According to a quick search I did yesterday, there is not enough evidence to prove that both platforms belong to the same operator. Despite this, everyone is firmly convinced that 1xbet is just another interface for 1xbet. Do you have evidence that the two platforms are interconnected? This will facilitate the conviction process, in my opinion.

Yes, we do. There is ample of evidence that these two platforms are interconnected. Even by their own admission. This topic has already been covered extensively. References: here, here, here, and here.

The problem is, when it comes to things like this, we are never going to have rock-solid evidence. It all depends on what you are going to accept as enough compelling evidence to draw a conclusion.
Just think about it - any two websites can be managed by one guy sitting at a desk in his mom's basement, and insist they are unrelated. How can anyone prove irrefutably that this is not true, unless he admits it? The same thing applies here. It is impossible to definitively prove that they are one and the same company, but there is plenty of evidence to suggest that they are. On the other hand, is there any evidence that 1xbit is not part of 1XBET, apart from their claim? If we could identify the actual company or legal entity behind the 1xbit platform, it would be helpful. But there isn't one, is there?
I would like to thank you for the great effort you put into collecting all these proofs. What I found leaves no doubt that a particular party runs a group of gambling sites with different domain names.
I can understand that this evidence may not be strong enough to form an indictment file, but when I am trying to display advertisements on my website or on stadium screens, should I not take all this data into account?
These sites will continue to operate as long as there is someone who accepts money in exchange for displaying advertisements, without taking into account all cases of proven theft.

Some of these advertising agencies aren't on bitcointalk, so it will be difficult for them to know most of these scam accusations labelled against them. I am also quite surprised that I do see 1xbit on popular explorers of bitcoin, Ethereum and some few other chains and they are comfortably displayed every day but I also think they don't care or don't do any investigations before acceptance of these companies otherwise, google is free for everyone to do diggings and query for some honest answers.

I often see 1xbet these days because they have really captured local artists and they have been giving out free bonuses on the first deposit but because they have a similar domain to 1xbit, I refused to register with them, in fact, I block anyone advertising them on Twitter. It is better to be safe than cry later, don't you think?
legendary
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August 10, 2022, 05:02:16 PM

1xbit don't pay!!!!!
Hello,

this screenshot doesn't represent any issues on it.
If you are having one, please describe it and let us know your account number.

Check mine please:

https://www.trustpilot.com/reviews/62d301958000af4a88422569

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60578616
seeing the part where they mentioned that they "stopped collaborating with you" tells me that they consider the case closed and have no plan on opening it and giving you your money/winnings. I've seen too many complaints here in the forum with the same email sent to them by the 1xbit support team/security team.
hero member
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August 10, 2022, 04:31:22 PM
According to a quick search I did yesterday, there is not enough evidence to prove that both platforms belong to the same operator. Despite this, everyone is firmly convinced that 1xbet is just another interface for 1xbet. Do you have evidence that the two platforms are interconnected? This will facilitate the conviction process, in my opinion.

Yes, we do. There is ample of evidence that these two platforms are interconnected. Even by their own admission. This topic has already been covered extensively. References: here, here, here, and here.

The problem is, when it comes to things like this, we are never going to have rock-solid evidence. It all depends on what you are going to accept as enough compelling evidence to draw a conclusion.
Just think about it - any two websites can be managed by one guy sitting at a desk in his mom's basement, and insist they are unrelated. How can anyone prove irrefutably that this is not true, unless he admits it? The same thing applies here. It is impossible to definitively prove that they are one and the same company, but there is plenty of evidence to suggest that they are. On the other hand, is there any evidence that 1xbit is not part of 1XBET, apart from their claim? If we could identify the actual company or legal entity behind the 1xbit platform, it would be helpful. But there isn't one, is there?
I would like to thank you for the great effort you put into collecting all these proofs. What I found leaves no doubt that a particular party runs a group of gambling sites with different domain names.
I can understand that this evidence may not be strong enough to form an indictment file, but when I am trying to display advertisements on my website or on stadium screens, should I not take all this data into account?
These sites will continue to operate as long as there is someone who accepts money in exchange for displaying advertisements, without taking into account all cases of proven theft.
newbie
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August 10, 2022, 07:54:40 AM
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1xbit don't pay!!!!!
Hello,

this screenshot doesn't represent any issues on it.
If you are having one, please describe it and let us know your account number.

Check mine please:

https://www.trustpilot.com/reviews/62d301958000af4a88422569

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60578616
hero member
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August 10, 2022, 06:16:04 AM
this screenshot doesn't represent any issues on it.
If you are having one, please describe it and let us know your account number.
I do agree that the screenshot op shared is confusing since it's most probably in Italian, but he seems to have a legitimate complaint based on his post history in this forum.

Anyway, even if he shares a proper screenshot to clear up this confusion later on, I don't really see the point since you and your team will most probably come up with some lame excuses to dump the blame on the gambler in question.
copper member
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August 10, 2022, 06:00:38 AM

1xbit don't pay!!!!!
Hello,

this screenshot doesn't represent any issues on it.
If you are having one, please describe it and let us know your account number.
legendary
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August 10, 2022, 02:27:24 AM
Another 1xbit scam accusation thread? Not surprised. At this point, they probably feel immortal or something since the rising number of scam accusations against them in this forum and in other sites don't really scare them.

The best thing that op can do at this point is to warn others in various ways which could impact their business in some way in the long-term in my opinion.
They simply do not care, once a service is known to scam their customers there is nothing stopping them from doing this over and over again, which is exactly what we are seeing with the 1xbit casino, since their reputation in this forum and in other websites is impossible to save they simply stopped caring about it, and if to this we add an aggressive marketing campaign to try to bury that information then it is not as surprising they can still find people to scam.
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Not Your Keys, Not Your Bitcoin
August 09, 2022, 01:36:57 PM
Unfortunately I read unfounded and unjustified accusations to 1xbit again. It's a shame that profiles working at other gambling sites see 1xbit as a big competitor and time and again they hire people to give 1xbit a bad name. What also strikes me is that players are not able to send their betting history here, while this has been requested several times. And when they do send it, it always turns out to be tennis and table tennis. Many stories have been written about that that there are many cheaters there. Well, what do you do about cheaters? Pretty normal for a gambling site to take action against that in its own way.

Competitor or do you mean a ripper gambling site where people have lost their hard earn deposits and winnings, did what you wrote sound reasonable to you at all? I'm very sure that if you weren't picked to participate in the 1xbit campaign, you wouldn't have anything meaningful to contribute to this thread. What do you even mean by other gambling sites see 1xbit as a competitor, because they are popular and well known for being scamming group doesn't give them any good name but a very bad reputation that will hunt them for the rest of their life, they better return all the money stolen including all the allegations that have been open against them or they remain known as thief forever including you.
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August 09, 2022, 09:50:23 AM
They market themselves aggressively and spend loads of confiscated money on self-promotion and that's how they end up with new players. Many of the new ones then get scammed as well. It's a vicious circle that wont end. 
This is what usually happens with any major shady organization in the world. 1xbit would have collapsed long back if it weren't for the support of 1xbet.

But hopefully threads like this one will serve to alert even one more person not to fall into their traps.
These alerts only help if they are Bitcointalk members. Most victims were never members of Bitcointalk and only join since they try to find solutions to their issues caused by 1xbit. Most of them just accuse them here and move on.
legendary
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August 09, 2022, 09:00:15 AM
Feel really bad for your case, but considering 1xbit reputation, really doubt you will get your money back. never played in this casino, but heard a couple of not very pleasant stories from the friends

I see cases like this repeated with some frequency. Most of us on the forum know that 1xBit is a scam, but they advertise on and off the forum, so there are always people like the creator of this thread who end up falling into their trap and create a thread to comment on their case when nothing can be done about it.

Although the picture provided by the OP does not prove anything either.

But hopefully threads like this one will serve to alert even one more person not to fall into their traps.
legendary
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August 09, 2022, 08:27:11 AM
What also strikes me is that players are not able to send their betting history here, while this has been requested several times.
You can't show the betting history because the casino you are promoting in your signature blocks their accounts and they lose access to them. When they enter their login ID and password, they are met with a message that the account no longer exists. 1xBit makes it as difficult as possible to prove they are scammers. They market themselves aggressively and spend loads of confiscated money on self-promotion and that's how they end up with new players. Many of the new ones then get scammed as well. It's a vicious circle that wont end. 
legendary
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August 09, 2022, 07:55:18 AM
According to a quick search I did yesterday, there is not enough evidence to prove that both platforms belong to the same operator. Despite this, everyone is firmly convinced that 1xbet is just another interface for 1xbet. Do you have evidence that the two platforms are interconnected? This will facilitate the conviction process, in my opinion.

Yes, we do. There is ample of evidence that these two platforms are interconnected. Even by their own admission. This topic has already been covered extensively. References: here, here, here, and here.

The problem is, when it comes to things like this, we are never going to have rock-solid evidence. It all depends on what you are going to accept as enough compelling evidence to draw a conclusion.
Just think about it - any two websites can be managed by one guy sitting at a desk in his mom's basement, and insist they are unrelated. How can anyone prove irrefutably that this is not true, unless he admits it? The same thing applies here. It is impossible to definitively prove that they are one and the same company, but there is plenty of evidence to suggest that they are. On the other hand, is there any evidence that 1xbit is not part of 1XBET, apart from their claim? If we could identify the actual company or legal entity behind the 1xbit platform, it would be helpful. But there isn't one, is there?


As for international stadiums, they are private or government companies. It is assumed that there are laws that control the display of advertisements during the transfer of matches.

As with most other private or government-owned companies, their main and most important drive is profit, not moral responsibility.
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August 08, 2022, 11:49:24 PM
According to a quick search I did yesterday, there is not enough evidence to prove that both platforms belong to the same operator. Despite this, everyone is firmly convinced that 1xbet is just another interface for 1xbet. Do you have evidence that the two platforms are interconnected? This will facilitate the conviction process, in my opinion.
Isn't that obvious? They aren't dumb enough to leave a ton of evidence lying around linking both of them in plain sight. However, gamblers have found several connections between the two after extensive research.

One of them is the fact that they operate from Russia. 1xbet files for bankruptcy sometime last year due to various illegal activities while 1xbit engages in illegal activities too.

Other scam sites like Kawbet etc were linked to this group too which implies that this is a pretty big illegal organization.
hero member
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August 08, 2022, 08:23:52 AM
And if 1xbit publishes advertisements for it on well-known crypto sites, 1xbet site publishes advertisements for it in the stadiums in which world championships such as the European Championship and the English League are taking place. It is very dangerous to promote scam sites on such a large scale without anyone complaining or noticing that those who spread those ads .
This isn't something new or anything. Most gamblers in this forum are already aware of the obvious connection between 1xbet and 1xbit. 1xbit continues to survive primarily because of this connection if you ask me.

If the authorities take down 1xbet through sufficient evidence someday, 1xbit will get taken down too immediately. Let's see how much longer their businesses stay afloat.
According to a quick search I did yesterday, there is not enough evidence to prove that both platforms belong to the same operator. Despite this, everyone is firmly convinced that 1xbet is just another interface for 1xbet. Do you have evidence that the two platforms are interconnected? This will facilitate the conviction process, in my opinion. The most evidence linking the two platforms, according to users’ experiences, is their method of referral. Both of them close the victim’s account, claiming that he owns more than one account, and then they begin to procrastinate by requesting identity documents and other documents until the victim gets bored and leaves the matter, especially if it is from a country whose laws do not support Gambling and I think they choose their victims carefully.
As for international stadiums, they are private or government companies. It is assumed that there are laws that control the display of advertisements during the transfer of matches.
newbie
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August 08, 2022, 03:32:57 AM
Feel really bad for your case, but considering 1xbit reputation, really doubt you will get your money back. never played in this casino, but heard a couple of not very pleasant stories from the friends
sr. member
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August 08, 2022, 03:12:22 AM
OP everyone is already aware of 1xbit and what they are doing as well at the same time people who are helping them spread the word of their campaign are doing that at their own risk and also recieving a negative trust because of that, the problem is, they are going to attract more people who might bet on these sites and actually get scammed as well. It's essential for the community to understand that we need to make this boards :
1. Safe
2. Informative

Therefore it's the responsibility of each and every person here to actually steer clear of such sites, we are already aware of them so you can :
1. Post feedback
2. Take a step against them
3. Post in scam accusations

OP does not even care to return here and update us, there are many people here that advised Him to provide proofs and make a formal claim in Scam Accusation section but Seems like he does not care.
because he even Online last time but did not visit this thread.
anyway you are right that better to keep off this site and there are many gambling company that had some sort of trust but not scamming .
hero member
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August 08, 2022, 02:49:53 AM
@OP, could you update us if they ever reached out? 

Unfortunately I read unfounded and unjustified accusations to 1xbit again. It's a shame that profiles working at other gambling sites see 1xbit as a big competitor and time and again they hire people to give 1xbit a bad name. What also strikes me is that players are not able to send their betting history here, while this has been requested several times. And when they do send it, it always turns out to be tennis and table tennis. Many stories have been written about that that there are many cheaters there. Well, what do you do about cheaters? Pretty normal for a gambling site to take action against that in its own way.
It's not about the competition, friend. But many accusations have proof and still, there's a continuous complaint against them. Even other casinos can't skip these complaints but they're giving a resolution to most of them and that's why they haven't seen that many complaints compared to 1xbit.
hero member
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August 07, 2022, 11:30:49 PM
And if 1xbit publishes advertisements for it on well-known crypto sites, 1xbet site publishes advertisements for it in the stadiums in which world championships such as the European Championship and the English League are taking place. It is very dangerous to promote scam sites on such a large scale without anyone complaining or noticing that those who spread those ads .
This isn't something new or anything. Most gamblers in this forum are already aware of the obvious connection between 1xbet and 1xbit. 1xbit continues to survive primarily because of this connection if you ask me.

If the authorities take down 1xbet through sufficient evidence someday, 1xbit will get taken down too immediately. Let's see how much longer their businesses stay afloat.
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