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Topic: 2 BTC loan paid in 2 months. Metaljar.com collateral. (Read 1874 times)

sr. member
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I wanted to follow up with you regarding this. Were you able to find anyone who can definitively say that your domain is worth $400?

no one is biting Sad
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/honest-opinoin-how-much-could-this-sale-for-939885

Nobody is biting because the value is not worth more than $ 400.
I think need find another better collateral

Thanks this is not about the loan any more,

because the loans not needed anymore

this is to try to find an estimate of the domain worth.
try to sell it and you'll find out it's not even worth 50$  Cheesy
sr. member
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hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
I wanted to follow up with you regarding this. Were you able to find anyone who can definitively say that your domain is worth $400?

no one is biting Sad
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/honest-opinoin-how-much-could-this-sale-for-939885

Nobody is biting because the value is not worth more than $ 400.
I think need find another better collateral

Thanks this is not about the loan any more,

because the loans not needed anymore

this is to try to find an estimate of the domain worth.
legendary
Activity: 2030
Merit: 1028
I wanted to follow up with you regarding this. Were you able to find anyone who can definitively say that your domain is worth $400?

no one is biting Sad
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/honest-opinoin-how-much-could-this-sale-for-939885

Nobody is biting because the value is not worth more than $ 400.
I think need find another better collateral
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
I wanted to follow up with you regarding this. Were you able to find anyone who can definitively say that your domain is worth $400?

no one is biting Sad
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/honest-opinoin-how-much-could-this-sale-for-939885
copper member
Activity: 2996
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I wanted to follow up with you regarding this. Were you able to find anyone who can definitively say that your domain is worth $400?
copper member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 2374
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I am requesting a loan of 2 btc for two months paid out weekly. with a 5% interested.

My collateral is a domain that I own metaljar.com
-snip-
You are selling your domain for $250.00. For the sake of argument lets say your domain is worth that much (it is not), however you are asking for a 2 BTC loan. The price of bitcoin is currently worth ~$260 now, so you are asking for roughly a $520 loan using something that you are trying to sell for less then half as much.

Yup that was posted about a couple days after I bought the domain and I forgot about I had it for sale. 


again thanks for finding this.






and may i ask you left negative feedback?



The feedback was left because one, you are trying to sell the collateral which in itself makes it very unlikely that you have intentions of repaying your loan, and two because even by your likely inflated valuation, the domain/website is worth less then the amount you are trying to borrow against your loan

Quickseller the domain was registered about 3 months ago that afternic post  was posted about a couple days after registration of the domain,
and I must of forgotten about it.

"two because even by your likely inflated valuation, the domain/website is worth less then the amount you are trying to borrow against your loan"


again man I used the damn valuation sites you used now your saying  my "likely inflated valuation?" come on man be realistic about leaving negative feedback. neutral feedback would of been accepted but negative is just moronic.

Find someone who is trusted on here who can say that they realistically think your domain is worth at least $400 (which is more then $100 less then the amount of your loan) and I will remove my trust rating.

Now you are bribing me?  that's not the point whether another person thinks its valued at  at least $400,  the point is I used the same valuation sites you used and now stating something else I am not saying its value at $400 I am saying I USED the same sites you used to appraise my other domains/sites.


I don't like to bribed to do something for something because that is what your clearly doing now man


again no need for the negative feedback.


but to his each his own.
I am not bribing you. I am offering a way for you to prove me wrong and if you do then I will admit my mistake.

Like I said before I never endorsed the figures contained in those valuation sites. Like one other person mentioned, those sites tend to provide inaccurate valuations.
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
-snip-
I am requesting a loan of 2 btc for two months paid out weekly. with a 5% interested.

My collateral is a domain that I own metaljar.com
-snip-
You are selling your domain for $250.00. For the sake of argument lets say your domain is worth that much (it is not), however you are asking for a 2 BTC loan. The price of bitcoin is currently worth ~$260 now, so you are asking for roughly a $520 loan using something that you are trying to sell for less then half as much.

Yup that was posted about a couple days after I bought the domain and I forgot about I had it for sale.  


again thanks for finding this.






and may i ask you left negative feedback?



The feedback was left because one, you are trying to sell the collateral which in itself makes it very unlikely that you have intentions of repaying your loan, and two because even by your likely inflated valuation, the domain/website is worth less then the amount you are trying to borrow against your loan

Quickseller the domain was registered about 3 months ago that afternic post  was posted about a couple days after registration of the domain,
and I must of forgotten about it.

"two because even by your likely inflated valuation, the domain/website is worth less then the amount you are trying to borrow against your loan"


again man I used the damn valuation sites you used now your saying  my "likely inflated valuation?" come on man be realistic about leaving negative feedback. neutral feedback would of been accepted but negative is just moronic.

Find someone who is trusted on here who can say that they realistically think your domain is worth at least $400 (which is more then $100 less then the amount of your loan) and I will remove my trust rating.

Now you are bribing me?  that's not the point whether another person thinks its valued  at least $400,  the point is I used the same valuation sites you used and now stating something else I am not saying its value at $400 I am saying I USED the same sites you used to appraise my other domains/sites.


I don't like to bribed to do something for something because that is what your clearly doing now man


again no need for the negative feedback.


but to his each his own.
copper member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 2374
-snip-
I am requesting a loan of 2 btc for two months paid out weekly. with a 5% interested.

My collateral is a domain that I own metaljar.com
-snip-
You are selling your domain for $250.00. For the sake of argument lets say your domain is worth that much (it is not), however you are asking for a 2 BTC loan. The price of bitcoin is currently worth ~$260 now, so you are asking for roughly a $520 loan using something that you are trying to sell for less then half as much.

Yup that was posted about a couple days after I bought the domain and I forgot about I had it for sale. 


again thanks for finding this.






and may i ask you left negative feedback?



The feedback was left because one, you are trying to sell the collateral which in itself makes it very unlikely that you have intentions of repaying your loan, and two because even by your likely inflated valuation, the domain/website is worth less then the amount you are trying to borrow against your loan

Quickseller the domain was registered about 3 months ago that afternic post  was posted about a couple days after registration of the domain,
and I must of forgotten about it.

"two because even by your likely inflated valuation, the domain/website is worth less then the amount you are trying to borrow against your loan"


again man I used the damn valuation sites you used now your saying  my "likely inflated valuation?" come on man be realistic about leaving negative feedback. neutral feedback would of been accepted but negative is just moronic.

Find someone who is trusted on here who can say that they realistically think your domain is worth at least $400 (which is more then $100 less then the amount of your loan) and I will remove my trust rating.
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
-snip-
I am requesting a loan of 2 btc for two months paid out weekly. with a 5% interested.

My collateral is a domain that I own metaljar.com
-snip-
You are selling your domain for $250.00. For the sake of argument lets say your domain is worth that much (it is not), however you are asking for a 2 BTC loan. The price of bitcoin is currently worth ~$260 now, so you are asking for roughly a $520 loan using something that you are trying to sell for less then half as much.

Yup that was posted about a couple days after I bought the domain and I forgot about I had it for sale. 


again thanks for finding this.






and may i ask you left negative feedback?



The feedback was left because one, you are trying to sell the collateral which in itself makes it very unlikely that you have intentions of repaying your loan, and two because even by your likely inflated valuation, the domain/website is worth less then the amount you are trying to borrow against your loan

Quickseller the domain was registered about 3 months ago that afternic post  was posted about a couple days after registration of the domain,
and I must of forgotten about it.

"two because even by your likely inflated valuation, the domain/website is worth less then the amount you are trying to borrow against your loan"


again man I used the damn valuation sites you used now your saying  my "likely inflated valuation?" come on man be realistic about leaving negative feedback. neutral feedback would of been accepted but negative is just moronic.
copper member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 2374
-snip-
I am requesting a loan of 2 btc for two months paid out weekly. with a 5% interested.

My collateral is a domain that I own metaljar.com
-snip-
You are selling your domain for $250.00. For the sake of argument lets say your domain is worth that much (it is not), however you are asking for a 2 BTC loan. The price of bitcoin is currently worth ~$260 now, so you are asking for roughly a $520 loan using something that you are trying to sell for less then half as much.

Yup that was posted about a couple days after I bought the domain and I forgot about I had it for sale. 


again thanks for finding this.




and may i ask you left negative feedback?



The feedback was left because one, you are trying to sell the collateral which in itself makes it very unlikely that you have intentions of repaying your loan, and two because even by your likely inflated valuation, the domain/website is worth less then the amount you are trying to borrow against your loan
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
-snip-
I am requesting a loan of 2 btc for two months paid out weekly. with a 5% interested.

My collateral is a domain that I own metaljar.com
-snip-
You are selling your domain for $250.00. For the sake of argument lets say your domain is worth that much (it is not), however you are asking for a 2 BTC loan. The price of bitcoin is currently worth ~$260 now, so you are asking for roughly a $520 loan using something that you are trying to sell for less then half as much.

Yup that was posted about a couple days after I bought the domain and I forgot about I had it for sale. 


again thanks for finding this.




and may i ask you left negative feedback?


copper member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 2374
-snip-
I am requesting a loan of 2 btc for two months paid out weekly. with a 5% interested.

My collateral is a domain that I own metaljar.com
-snip-
You are selling your domain for $250.00. For the sake of argument lets say your domain is worth that much (it is not), however you are asking for a 2 BTC loan. The price of bitcoin is currently worth ~$260 now, so you are asking for roughly a $520 loan using something that you are trying to sell for less then half as much.
sr. member
Activity: 306
Merit: 250

again if it was all bought traffic my adsense account would have been closed down years ago.
No, you specifically said it would have been closed down years ago. This implies that the domain has been in use for at least as long which is not true.
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
http://whois.domaintools.com/metaljar.com

Code:
Registrant Org Carlos Cardenas is associated with ~185 other domains  
Registrar GODADDY.COM, LLC
Registrar Status clientDeleteProhibited, clientRenewProhibited, clientTransferProhibited, clientUpdateProhibited
Dates Created on 2014-11-02 - Expires on 2015-11-02 - Updated on 2014-12-20  
Name Server(s) NS1.VOODOO.COM (has 164,634 domains)
NS2.VOODOO.COM (has 164,634 domains)
 
IP Address 192.64.147.230 - 1,141 other sites hosted on this server  
IP Location United States - Florida - Tampa - Voodoo.com Inc
ASN United States AS19867 VOODOO1 - Voodoo.com, Inc (registered Dec 03, 2012)
Domain Status Registered And Active Website
Whois History 7 records have been archived since 2014-11-02  
IP History 8 changes on 8 unique IP addresses over 1 years  
Registrar History 1 registrar  
Hosting History 7 changes on 7 unique name servers over 1 year  
Whois Server whois.godaddy.com
You registered this domain three months ago. If you were purchasing traffic the entire time the domain/website has been up then it would be illogical for adsense to close your account years ago.
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Yes I registered the domain three months ago. with little to no traffic
thanks for looking that up.


I said if I purchased traffic my adsense account would be closed by now,

not once did I say I used adsense for this domain since its just a parked domain.


sr. member
Activity: 306
Merit: 250
http://whois.domaintools.com/metaljar.com

Code:
Registrant Org Carlos Cardenas is associated with ~185 other domains  
Registrar GODADDY.COM, LLC
Registrar Status clientDeleteProhibited, clientRenewProhibited, clientTransferProhibited, clientUpdateProhibited
Dates Created on 2014-11-02 - Expires on 2015-11-02 - Updated on 2014-12-20  
Name Server(s) NS1.VOODOO.COM (has 164,634 domains)
NS2.VOODOO.COM (has 164,634 domains)
 
IP Address 192.64.147.230 - 1,141 other sites hosted on this server  
IP Location United States - Florida - Tampa - Voodoo.com Inc
ASN United States AS19867 VOODOO1 - Voodoo.com, Inc (registered Dec 03, 2012)
Domain Status Registered And Active Website
Whois History 7 records have been archived since 2014-11-02  
IP History 8 changes on 8 unique IP addresses over 1 years  
Registrar History 1 registrar  
Hosting History 7 changes on 7 unique name servers over 1 year  
Whois Server whois.godaddy.com
You registered this domain three months ago. If you were purchasing traffic the entire time the domain/website has been up then it would be illogical for adsense to close your account years ago.
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
You've asked for a $5K loan, a 0.5 Loan, and even a 0.05 Loan. What is up?
From the looks of it he is pretending to be you Wink

what does that mean?

pretending to be.
I was implying that you are trying to scam. (CandyStripes is a scammer remember?)

You are clearly trying to take out loans at various price points in the hopes of someone being stupid enough to lend money to you.

I do know a thing or two about domains and the ones you are listing are worth next to nothing. The traffic they have is likely very low quality and probably paid


no I didnt know canystripes was a scammer. I dont go around the forum scoping out i come here for business. 

with your blank trust and no trades you shouldn't be pointing out what I am doing.

you clearly know nothing about domains. and how websites work and how adsense works. 


your assumptions of bought traffic is irrelevant as to what is actually real, I am not here to prove to you about my traffic for my sites.

again if it was all bought traffic my adsense account would have been closed down years ago.

so again,  if your just going to post to get your damn posts up for your little signatures and earn dollars go do it some where else where your knowledge about domains would work.

sr. member
Activity: 306
Merit: 250
You've asked for a $5K loan, a 0.5 Loan, and even a 0.05 Loan. What is up?
From the looks of it he is pretending to be you Wink

what does that mean?

pretending to be.
I was implying that you are trying to scam. (CandyStripes is a scammer remember?)

You are clearly trying to take out loans at various price points in the hopes of someone being stupid enough to lend money to you.

I do know a thing or two about domains and the ones you are listing are worth next to nothing. The traffic they have is likely very low quality and probably paid
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
Most of those valuation sites, are not accurate. At the end of the deal if you needed a loan that desperately, you would just sell that domain instead. Of course it's not worth that, it's worth as much as people want to pay for it. I for one wouldn't pay more than it's original registration price.

Provide some better collateral.

I understand what you are saying.


the reason I posted this is because quickseller

was looking at these sites  as a comparison as to their value,

if he didnt than why did he use those sites to begin with,


tell me can a domain increase in value 4 or 5 times? in a month.
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
I never said either of those valuation sites were reputable. I said they were the first ones that came up on a google search.

I can tell you that as a rule of thumb most domains have zero value. If someone wanted a "Metaljar" domain they could just as easily register Metaljar.net or some other extension or something very similar to metal jar.

I can tell you with even more certainty that no website is going to be worth 4 or 5 figures after only one month

no? you didnt?

was this not your statement?
According to https://www.valuate.com/ this is worth $0, https://www.freevaluator.com/ it is worth $257 and http://www.siteprice.org/website-worth/www.bitcoinpudle.com it is worth $150. Please explain how to came to the $32k figure. I highly doubt that any reputable valuation site would value it as much.


if nether of these sites are reputable why did you state this?
why did you your self go and use these sites to check valuation?


again man whats wrong?

if your not interested dont go around threads making it seem your the **** about every thing.



also  "I can tell you with even more certainty that no website is going to be worth 4 or 5 figures after only one month"

I can prove to you any website can be worth x10 in under a month.
again why do you assume you know man.

your thinking is irrelevant to what is actually in the world.

or better yet you sale accounts right? they have no value whats so ever or do they?
how can an account be worth much main reason is because people want to scam or signatures right?


the only and only reason folks buy domains is to scam folks or use them for signatures if there would be no signatures would your accounts you sale be worth anything?


I am just going by your own rules.

I honestly don't think you know anything about Domains. because if you did its almost like real estate.

how can you say a domain has no value and the value cant be increased 4 or 5 times.
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