Topic: 2 questions to slot players - page 2. (Read 328 times)

It may not really have to be on slot games alone, but just know that terrible and amazing things happens at any time to gamblers, this can depend on the game involved, the risk taken and the management proceedings adopted by us towards what we are running after gambling.


Motivation can comes in form anywhere, if there is no any reason for us to gamble, then we will always have the one to have fun and uses such to gamble, that is why we keep getting some gamblers always on top of the game more often because they are always gambling and they need that to keep them busy, entertained or for any of their personal reason.

This seems to be a basic thing that is always experienced by slot players because in the end even though there are some improvements that are owned from the increase in luck in the bet in the end it will all run out in time
In a few months ago when I was active in slot games, I felt something like this where indeed this is a situation that seems natural because in the end almost all slot players have felt the same way.

In this case I will not dare to say that this is a scam because after all we must realize that every game in the match the chances of winning are only 1 compared to several times the defeat which means that the number of defeats will be far more than the victory that is owned especially in slot games which this is pure luck that can be used as a benchmark.
I now prefer other games compared to Slot because although this game presents a very good visual to enjoy when playing in the end the risk of losing money faster is also higher in this game.

You just never know mate, there could be gamblers really losing big money in a slot machine. I know we say that we enjoy the rush on playing your favorite games, but at the end of the day, you will still be in the negative and unlucky. Different people have different luck.


Yes, I know that sounds illogical, but that is the mindset of gamblers, even if we are still losing, we might have  the reasoning that one day you gonna hit and hit it big with that slot games. And so you continue to deposit and chase that "dream".

I have been there too my friend, so I completely understand how painful and stressful it can be. Personally, I believe it's time for you to take a break from slots or even all forms of gambling at least until you feel that you totally regained control over how much time and money you are spending on it. It sounds like these experiences are giving you lessons and stepping back might help you reset your mindset.

Frankly, slots are designed to keep you hooked by making it feel like your hits are so close to a big win, even when keep losing. Just like Pragmatic Play and like many other providers, uses algorithms that can make the game feel unfair especially when you hit a long streak of losses. It’s easy to fall into the trap of believing that the next spin might finally hit a good jackpot. Honestly, I know well how tempting that hope can be.

As for your questions:

1_ I can assure you that you are not alone in this feeling or situation. Many players like me before all we go through bad losing streaks and it often has nothing to do with luck but the nature of slots themselves. You have to understand they are designed to pay out just enough to keep you playing.

2_ After sessions like this it's understandable to question why you keep going. For many it’s a mix of chasing that one big win or trying to recover losses. But in reality it leads to more losses. It’s tine to recognize these things and stepping away.

You already made a strong decision before to stop, and that shows a good self awareness. Consider this a reminder that your well being is more important than any big win. Taking a break might be the best move for you right now as you have got nothing to prove and you definitely not alone in this struggle as myself also I struggled a lot lately..

If you know your odds why are you so surprised? You ran into a bad streak, it happens to all of us... I lost countless deposits on buying normal and super bonuses from different providers.


It's your subjective feeling... and if it's very disturbing for you then it would be wise for you to stop gambling for a while, maybe forever it's affecting your mental health so much.

Your results are yours, you tested your luck and you lost. While we losing some people are winning! I never won max payout on any Pragmatic slots, while some people have many max wins on different slots from the same provider, and it's not like I am not trying from time to time... I won so many bonuses from normal spins, I bought so many normal bonuses, and from time to time I buy only super bonuses. Eh... maybe one day! Who knows?

most likely yes, incidents like this are inevitable to happen.

every person have different kind of motivation for their gambling activities so the answer can be different from each person. for example, I gamble with money I can afford to lose so I would just move on don't take it to heart since things like this are inevitable and then gamble again with money I can affor to lose if I feel like it.

Slot games is not a means of making money for some of us who have to the realization, personally, I came to believe that slot games were designed for gamblers to just have fun with, and not a means of getting good winnings which one can translate to profit, I learned this and today, I enjoy playing Slot games more than ever before.

I no longer play slot games as frequently as before because the purpose of playing it have changed, I am now a seasonal/occasional slot player who only will play when I really want to have some fun with it, at this point, what I will loose doesnt matter since I am playing to just have fun.

And when it comes to making money off gambling, sports betting is where I go to, slot is favorable to and for most gamblers, only people with extreme level of luck come out from slot games profitable.
So, In order for me not to always feel very disappointed and angry after a round on slot, I simply changed the purpose to which I play slot game.

So in conclusion, fun is the motivation for me, expecting to make money from slot games is a waste of time, so, I allow fun to motivate me to play but not frequently like I said before.

Friend, that is a very common occurrence experienced by most gamblers who make slots their favorite game, but on the other hand, it is good if that incident makes you feel discouraged and want to stop gambling forever because the real victory is when you stop completely. Honestly, I have also experienced an incident like what you experienced, namely going through lots of normal rounds but never getting a free spin bonus until all the money I brought was gone, and that often happens.

So if for example we talk about the type of casino game like slots, then I think it is a normal occurrence, simply if for example you experience a disappointing incident like that, it means that you are indeed far from what is called luck, therefore from the start we should not have any hopes.

1. Sadly yeah, as slots can be cruel especially the highly volatile types.

2. If I did pretty shitty in a certain game or series of games from the same provider, I'm more likely to just stay away from the said game or provider than quit slots as a whole lol. There's this mentality that other slot game or provider might serve me better lol. TBH, I actually had a losing streak in pragmatic play slots so I've barely touched them games last several months.

After some time has passed, I also feel less shitty about it.

Most gamblers are not aware of their bad luck streaks in slots because they keep on playing without looking at the results of every bet. But surely, there are people who have the same outcome. Do take note that only few people can hit good winnings in slots, so high likely that most are suffering losses after losses.

If you still have extra funds, the tendency is to play again and again hoping that you will hit your jackpot. That's the usual mentality of a gambler. What if I stop, and the next one is my lucky bet? But sad to say, most of the time, you will just screw up your vault if you don't know when to stop.

I just wanted to confirm my doubts and this was definitely it, I have no other information to share from Pragmatic Play provider, they are the most absolute scam I have ever encountered in slot machines. When I used to play Play n Go my initial favorite provider never have I gone in more than 550 spins without a bonus so there is definitely something fishy with Pragmatic, the only reason I started to like them initially was their ability to buy the bonus game and try to go for the max win directly. I will never again play slot machines yet if I happened to do so I will make sure I play real providers like Play n Go which it is super extremely rare to go 1000 spins without a bonus game, in fact I have played them for some years from 2019 to early 2023 and never have experienced a 1000 spins without a bonus in any of their games, their average is in general 1 bonus in 200-300 spins.

It's not stupidity, it's the definition of insanity to do the same thing again and again expecting different results. You might have identified a pattern that it at odds with their stated claim of a certain win percentage ratio, if that's what you're trying to suggest, but you've paid so much money to them for the privilege. You are never going to win long term in slots, it's the biggest effort in futility, but you don't seem to be awake to this realization so far? If you enjoy the slot games for what they are, a form of entertainment that is not going to make you rich, then keep on playing.. but acting like you have discovered just now that they don't pay out is ridiculous because every casino is upfront about this from the beginning - they simply have no need to lie, it is the nature of the game.

I was about to ask you if you have played in physical casinos, because I didn't experience or at least I have a good win on playing on them as compare to online. From my experience losing big money in online, like playing capital of $500-$600 just for slots playing max bet at times but not giving anything. But when I have that kind of capital in a land base casinos, I know my chances that I can hit big, even with just $25.

Yeah, it could be randomness, but it could really be worse in online. That's why I'm not that confident anymore to play slots in online and just play my regular other favorite games like baccarat or even Evolution's Lightning Roulette.

I'm curious if there is any information on what the average ratio of bonus spins to total spins should be? Like 1 in 10 or 1 in 100 etc.? As I understand it, a bonus is not a very common thing, so abnormal series without bonuses are not actually anomalies, but statistically inevitable phenomena.
As for your other comments, they seem illogical - why spend money on something you consider a scam, I don't understand it.

It is normal for slots to be a game that will disappoint its fans if they are truly chasing wins. Slots are just an easy game that doesn't rely on any strategy in my opinion, but you can leave the session and switch to another session or game if you don't get anything in 100 or so spins.

It is clear that there are many slot players out there who are ruined and bankrupt because they are chasing victory. There is very little chance of someone getting rich on slots even if they have been playing for years, so slots are never suitable as a place to make easy money. In fact, it is hoped that gamblers will not use gambling as a place to make money, but gambling is a game that should bring joy.

Yes, it can also happen in a slot game, there is a possibility that it is tantrum or even an error system, it can happen to the slot machine that we turn, it is very difficult to confirm it that we are in that atmosphere.

But I have never experienced such things in my gambling, maybe I still play pretty well and meet a safe and fair casino so that I don't get such bad experiences as long as I play slots on various casinos that I have visited.

You might be surprised to find that there are people out there who lost more than the record you currently hold - I don’t hope to beat you since it isn’t a good thing if it was record of “good luck” then I’ll be more interested but since it is the other way around I don’t even want to start thinking of how many times I’ll have to loss to beat that record.



Keep playing? Hell no - I don’t even have to wait to lost half of that money before I switch to a different game provider to try out their game, I’m not the type that just sticks to one provider just because I like their game, I tend to switch from one to another so as to get a feel of how others works so there’s a high chance that I won’t get close to your loses before I quit or switch (but I’m more likely to quit though).

There's no need to say this is a record of bad luck. It's all within the scope of feasibility.
And bear in mind that slot machine spins are not provable. Which means that the provider needs to be trusted for the randomness. But if it was provably fair you would know the results are pre-determined.
 
Instead for slots you trust a third party provider for "randomness". So perhaps it has nothing to do with luck but maybe a provider actually fiddling with results to increase their profits.

1.. You'd be surprised that there are many more people out there than you with poor slot performance. To paraphrase someone on doing the same thing and expecting a different result. Change casinos. I had one of my greatest slot experience playing at Livecasino. Check it out.

2. The courage to keep playing is the same as the courage to stop playing and take a break if I have experience consistent losses in.a roll. Take a break, you'll appreciate yourself that you did.

as others have said here, this is completely normal with slots, you will lose more than you will win. every time i play slots, i do it for fun while expecting to lose my entire balance.
if you do the math, you will find that the results from your session are well within the expected, you are a long way from any world record.


you don't, you call it a day and stop. if you no longer having fun, you stop. always play for fun not for wins.