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legendary
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July 31, 2019, 01:37:31 AM
#17
"One time there may or may not have been racism, therefore our borders need not be enforced." Cool story bro.
   Enforced against who? Brown skinned US citizens?   Cheesy Even you conceded above that this is stepping over the line. If someone has valid documentation that they are a US citizen, they need to be let in, without undue delay and hassle. Not be detained unjustly for 23 days, while the US fucking bureaucracy finally figures out that they made a mistake. Oh, but that is right. The President has made it clear that if you have a dark tone to your skin, and you happen to disagree with current US policy in any way, you need to go "back where you came from." Even if you happen to have been born on US soil.  Kiss
legendary
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July 31, 2019, 01:27:01 AM
#16

   In all three cases cited in the article, none of the people detained were breaking any laws. All of them were United States citizens and had valid documentation on them. However, it appears the agents deemed their valid documentation as suspicious, and detained them for hours or even weeks until they could clear them. If any of the cases mentioned in this article lacked documentation, I could perhaps be more understanding. However, even without documentation, I would think such a matter could be resolved in an hour or two, if someone is a US citizen. Not 32 hours and certainly not 23 days.

As soon as the documentation is suspicious then it loses its valid status. They should hold the kids that were trying to cross the national border as long as it takes to find the parents. The word parents isn't even in the article when I CTRL F.


So if someone looks at my valid driver's license or passport and a agent has a "hunch" that it is "suspicious," it is invalidated? That makes zero sense. I remember going to a bank, and they took my valid driver's license. At the time, my state did not require someone to renew for 15 years, so it was an older version. The bank representative then insisted that they could not open an account because it was invalid. After much angst, I finally got them to see that it was indeed valid and they apologized. I'm sure the fact that my skin happens to be a dark complexion had nothing to do with the initial account representative insisting that my license was "invalid."   Roll Eyes
If this is how American citizens are going to be treated at ports of entry, I better delay any travel plans until the environment becomes better. I wouldn't want another huge hassle, just because some immigration agent has a hunch that I'm really an "illegal" and my valid documents are "fake."

"One time there may or may not have been racism, therefore our borders need not be enforced." Cool story bro.
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July 30, 2019, 11:40:52 PM
#15
The first word when I click your article is "Border Patrol".
Directly from the Border patrol website
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U.S. Customs and Border Protection, CBP, takes a comprehensive approach to ... immigration
Source : https://www.cbp.gov/about

If we're not talking about anything related to immigration, then I am confused. Plus why would you put words in someone's mouth if you believe their ideas are already so bad?

Click the 2nd link.
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July 30, 2019, 07:05:40 PM
#14
So if someone looks at my valid driver's license or passport and a agent has a "hunch" that it is "suspicious," it is invalidated? That makes zero sense. I remember going to a bank, and they took my valid driver's license. At the time, my state did not require someone to renew for 15 years, so it was an older version. The bank representative then insisted that they could not open an account because it was invalid. After much angst, I finally got them to see that it was indeed valid and they apologized. I'm sure the fact that my skin happens to be a dark complexion had nothing to do with the initial account representative insisting that my license was "invalid."   Roll Eyes
If this is how American citizens are going to be treated at ports of entry, I better delay any travel plans until the environment becomes better. I wouldn't want another huge hassle, just because some immigration agent has a hunch that I'm really an "illegal" and my valid documents are "fake."

No worries, they'll just probe you anally and hold you without food and water for a couple weeks; that'll show you for being born the wrong color.
legendary
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July 30, 2019, 06:56:58 PM
#13

   In all three cases cited in the article, none of the people detained were breaking any laws. All of them were United States citizens and had valid documentation on them. However, it appears the agents deemed their valid documentation as suspicious, and detained them for hours or even weeks until they could clear them. If any of the cases mentioned in this article lacked documentation, I could perhaps be more understanding. However, even without documentation, I would think such a matter could be resolved in an hour or two, if someone is a US citizen. Not 32 hours and certainly not 23 days.

As soon as the documentation is suspicious then it loses its valid status. They should hold the kids that were trying to cross the national border as long as it takes to find the parents. The word parents isn't even in the article when I CTRL F.


So if someone looks at my valid driver's license or passport and a agent has a "hunch" that it is "suspicious," it is invalidated? That makes zero sense. I remember going to a bank, and they took my valid driver's license. At the time, my state did not require someone to renew for 15 years, so it was an older version. The bank representative then insisted that they could not open an account because it was invalid. After much angst, I finally got them to see that it was indeed valid and they apologized. I'm sure the fact that my skin happens to be a dark complexion had nothing to do with the initial account representative insisting that my license was "invalid."   Roll Eyes
If this is how American citizens are going to be treated at ports of entry, I better delay any travel plans until the environment becomes better. I wouldn't want another huge hassle, just because some immigration agent has a hunch that I'm really an "illegal" and my valid documents are "fake."
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July 30, 2019, 06:13:25 PM
#12

   In all three cases cited in the article, none of the people detained were breaking any laws. All of them were United States citizens and had valid documentation on them. However, it appears the agents deemed their valid documentation as suspicious, and detained them for hours or even weeks until they could clear them. If any of the cases mentioned in this article lacked documentation, I could perhaps be more understanding. However, even without documentation, I would think such a matter could be resolved in an hour or two, if someone is a US citizen. Not 32 hours and certainly not 23 days.

As soon as the documentation is suspicious then it loses its valid status. They should hold the kids that were trying to cross the national border as long as it takes to find the parents. The word parents isn't even in the article when I CTRL F.
legendary
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July 30, 2019, 05:35:55 PM
#11
immigration, which is entirely unrelated to the subject.

this thread is ... not about immigration for those people that can't read.

>thinks its acceptable that US citizens are caught up in the immigration system

>thinks thread is not related to immigration
>thinks immigration system is not related to immigration

The first word when I click your article is "Border Patrol".
Directly from the Border patrol website
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U.S. Customs and Border Protection, CBP, takes a comprehensive approach to ... immigration
Source : https://www.cbp.gov/about

If we're not talking about anything related to immigration, then I am confused. Plus why would you put words in someone's mouth if you believe their ideas are already so bad?
legendary
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July 30, 2019, 05:17:33 PM
#10
>thinks US citizens are part of the immigration system

>thinks its acceptable that US citizens are caught up in the immigration system

What sort of sick freak thinks these things?

Don't speak for me derangement boy. That is not what I said, that is what you interpret me to have said in order to give yourself any inkling of an argument. If you don't like events like these, perhaps people like you should stop encouraging this flood of illegal immigration and it wouldn't have to be handled in such an expansive way. I don't think non-criminal citizens should be detained, however to pretend this is unrelated to illegal immigration is nothing but a fantasy for you to have even a semblance of an argument on your part.
legendary
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July 30, 2019, 04:38:14 PM
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On a Monday morning, CBP detained her and her 14-year-old brother, Oscar, saying she didn't look like the photo in her passport

Oh.

As far as child detention centers, they are located all over the US. I think most would agree that they are necessary to hold people that don't follow the laws, and are underage.

   In all three cases cited in the article, none of the people detained were breaking any laws. All of them were United States citizens and had valid documentation on them. However, it appears the agents deemed their valid documentation as suspicious, and detained them for hours or even weeks until they could clear them. If any of the cases mentioned in this article lacked documentation, I could perhaps be more understanding. However, even without documentation, I would think such a matter could be resolved in an hour or two, if someone is a US citizen. Not 32 hours and certainly not 23 days.
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July 30, 2019, 12:03:33 PM
#8
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On a Monday morning, CBP detained her and her 14-year-old brother, Oscar, saying she didn't look like the photo in her passport

Oh.

As far as child detention centers, they are located all over the US. I think most would agree that they are necessary to hold people that don't follow the laws, and are underage.
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July 30, 2019, 11:51:29 AM
#7
>thinks US citizens are part of the immigration system

>thinks its acceptable that US citizens are caught up in the immigration system

What sort of sick freak thinks these things?
legendary
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July 30, 2019, 11:47:43 AM
#6
Hey, more off-topic shitposting.

Wonderful that unmoderated threads get shitposters that love pushing a specific agenda. Talking about wrongfully detained US children = immigration in their mind.

How the fuck these warped minds work is beyond my understanding. Perhaps they're just paid to push an agenda regardless Wink

So your argument is that the people being held at these detention centers are unrelated to immigration? What? I am the one with a warped mind? Again, please let me know who to contact to get my back pay, I would love to know who owes me for posting.
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July 30, 2019, 11:33:47 AM
#5
Hey, more off-topic shitposting.

Wonderful that unmoderated threads get shitposters that love pushing a specific agenda. Talking about wrongfully detained US children = immigration in their mind.

How the fuck these warped minds work is beyond my understanding. Perhaps they're just paid to push an agenda regardless Wink
legendary
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July 29, 2019, 10:51:12 PM
#4
Man, I hate trolls shitposting about immigration, which is entirely unrelated to the subject.

this thread is about US children being wrongfully detained; not about immigration for those people that can't read.

It is quite a legitimate question. Your denial that the two are related is quite delusional. All you are doing is making it easier to traffic and prostitute children.
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July 29, 2019, 08:03:03 PM
#3
Man, I hate trolls shitposting about immigration, which is entirely unrelated to the subject.

this thread is about US children being wrongfully detained; not about immigration for those people that can't read.
legendary
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July 29, 2019, 07:03:42 PM
#2
https://www.gq.com/story/border-patrol-detained-9-year-old-american-girl

There's one.

Down for any detainment of kids that are innocent.

Quick question for you. How do you propose to prevent child trafficking into the USA if children are not temporarily detained? Do you think letting any adult with any child cross into the country just because they have a child is a good idea? You don't think that won't be exploited by child sex traffickers? This is again another demonstration of your motivations based on emotion rather than logic.
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