2 User apply in same campaign, it's bounty cheater?

ChuckBuck

hero member

Activity: 1372

Merit: 783

better everyday ♥

Guys, to continue talking about this issue, I will give two examples so that you can be easiest to imagine Wink

The first case: the connection between blitzboy and crairezx20, crairezx20 was in the LuckyBit campaign which was managed by yaho62278, then blitzboy apply for this campaign. These accounts were identified as connected, soon after, yahoo62278 removed them from the campaign, leaving negative feedback for both.

The second case: the connection between RapTarX and Little Mouse, they have been proven to be the same owner, but they still refused Cheesy

meanwhile, both accounts have been participating in different campaigns, both opened campaign management services, DTs didn't have any reaction to this, meaning they agreed (but I didn't, it is clearly fraud).

Conclude: For most DT members, it doesn't matter how many accounts you own, as long as you don't cheat in the same signature campaign (regardless of time period), you should have no problems. If in any case, you were arrested using two accounts in two different campaigns, you can use this example to appeal. Personally, I oppose any of you who intend to use multiple accounts in this forum to participate in campaigns, but to appeal, it's a good example, and you can have it fairly.

masulum

legendary

Activity: 2324

Merit: 1604

hmph..

Well, I don't want saying bounty participants as Cheater as far as they are not join my campaign with same account. But, if they are join in my campaign with both of his account, of course i will tag him as Cheater on spreadsheet and, some of them will marked as red trust with cheating information or giving neutral if I not really sure about the accusation.

20kevin20

legendary

Activity: 1134

Merit: 1599

Quote from: MCDev on March 29, 2020, 12:31:42 PM

Forum rules do not prohibit people from having multiple accounts, but having multiple accounts is not recommended. Therefore, the rule that you stated is only the rule of the majority of bonus campaigns.
Most bonus programs forbid the use of alt accounts so if someone with 2 accounts participated in a bonus campaign he would break the law.

Why exactly do you think it isn't recommended? One might want to have a secondary account where they'll expose their political views because they don't want to be judged so having a secondary account makes their primary one considered "safe". Having multiple accounts and joining a campaign with 2 accounts are two completely different things.

Theb

hero member

Activity: 1680

Merit: 655

Quote from: cheater detector on March 28, 2020, 07:57:29 AM

I want to ask, if there are 2 or many user is applying in same bounties but they don't get accepted by the campaign manager... Did that's case can be said as bounty cheater?

Because in many case, I usually saw many bounty cheater get exposed when they're already joining the campaign.

Waiting for your answer Grin

What exactly are you asking? Because if you think that members here can be tag as a bounty cheater or an alt account of either one just because they applied at the same time it's not the case here. Members are still need to be proven as an alt account of one member from additional evidences (e.g. same wallet address, telegram account, sending crypto to one wallet address). Simply users cannot have a negative feedback without other members proving that one or more of these accounts are connected to each other.

MCDev

sr. member

Activity: 680

Merit: 255

Forum rules do not prohibit people from having multiple accounts, but having multiple accounts is not recommended. Therefore, the rule that you stated is only the rule of the majority of bonus campaigns.
Most bonus programs forbid the use of alt accounts so if someone with 2 accounts participated in a bonus campaign he would break the law.

NavI_027

full member

Activity: 1232

Merit: 186

Quote from: Pffrt on March 29, 2020, 02:54:16 AM

If they apply from both accounts at once, that will obviously abusing bounty even though they get accepted or not. On the other hand, if they apllies on different weeks if the previous account weren't accepted, then it's okay in my opinion.

Based on what I understand on what you've said, applying Accont 1 & 2 simultaneously today but Account 1 is only accepted then after weeks you attempt to apply Account 2 and fortunately got accepted as well is allowed and not breaking the forum rules. Am I right? If your answer is yes then I might disagree with it unless that certain campaign tolerates such manner (though impossible to happen). This is wrong in all ways because you are abusing the campaign already, that is not the right etiquette of a decent bounty hunder/sig campaign participant. And anyone proven guilty should accept red tag. Some of you might find it too harsh but for me it sounds fair, the best way to remove cancer-like members here inside.

Upgrade00

legendary

Activity: 2254

Merit: 2406

Playgram - The Telegram Casino

There are a couple of situations that are not stated explicitly to be breaking the rules of the forum, but which you are likely to get an investigation for and possibly a ref trust because you were deemed to be engaging in unethical behavior.
One situation is, account sales and the other is using multiple accounts in one campaign.

The former is not against the rules of the forum at all but poses a problem which the majority of members consider worthy of note and most of the time a red trust. The same rules apply to the latter is most cases.

sujonali1819

legendary

Activity: 2436

Merit: 1189

Need Campaign Manager?PM on telegram @sujonali1819

Quote from: cheater detector on March 28, 2020, 07:57:29 AM

I want to ask, if there are 2 or many user is applying in same bounties but they don't get accepted by the campaign manager... Did that's case can be said as bounty cheater?

Because in many case, I usually saw many bounty cheater get exposed when they're already joining the campaign.

Waiting for your answer Grin

If there have any relation I mean if they will alt of each other then it's obviously a bounty cheat. In this case, they are accepted or rejected from the campaign is not matter. But if they have not any relation with each other and got rejected from the campaign does not mean they are a cheater. Maybe they are not what the manager asking for or they violated the campaign's rules. Basically the lower ranks members make these mistakes.

LbtalkL

full member

Activity: 1176

Merit: 162

That is not a forum rule, In fact, Alt account is allowed in the forum as long as it has a legitimate purpose, not for cheating bounties or similar. I will give you an example LoyceV and his other account LoyceMobile
Of course, in bounties alt accounts are not allowed. It does not mean that if the user is not accepted on the bounty he is a cheater sometime he/she is not qualified like his account is just a newbie and the bounty requires jr. member. But you know why some bounty managers does not allow newbies? because of those bounty cheaters.

Pffrt

sr. member

Activity: 1372

Merit: 322

If they apply from both accounts at once, that will obviously abusing bounty even though they get accepted or not. On the other hand, if they apllies on different weeks if the previous account weren't accepted, then it's okay in my opinion.
On the other hand, if they want to participate from both account, it's cheating and should be tagged.

jademaxsuy

full member

Activity: 924

Merit: 221

Quote from: cheater detector on March 28, 2020, 07:57:29 AM

Hi everyone! Really miss this forum after 9 months I don't visit this forum since June 2019.

According about the forum rules :

Quote

No alt accounts allowed, if it is found out that you are participating in this campaign with alt accounts you will be removed without notice or payment.

I want to ask, if there are 2 or many user is applying in same bounties but they don't get accepted by the campaign manager... Did that's case can be said as bounty cheater?

Because in many case, I usually saw many bounty cheater get exposed when they're already joining the campaign.

Waiting for your answer Grin

febo answered it already. It is not a forum rules as you mentioned and it is a bounty campaign rule. Anyone is allowed to have morr than one forum account but it is not recommended. Some forum user here have more than one account and let everyone know that it's an alt account. Some people did have another account to cheat on bounty campaign to receive more bounty reward.

Febo

legendary

Activity: 2744

Merit: 1288

Quote from: cheater detector on March 28, 2020, 07:57:29 AM

According about the forum rules :

Quote

No alt accounts allowed, if it is found out that you are participating in this campaign with alt accounts you will be removed without notice or payment.

That is not a forum rule. You are allowed to have more then only one account. Many have business and personal accounts on this forum.

OcTradism

hero member

Activity: 1722

Merit: 801

It is a cheat, and managers of campaigns, bounties and owners of those companies have rights to create flags against cheaters. Or they can simply leave negative feedback on cheaters.

People are allowed to have multiple accounts on the fourm, and have rights to join many campaigns, bounties at the same time, but only one per campaign/ bounties. Using more than one account to join campaign or bounty will be considered as cheat, and it is highly discouraged on the forum.

I remember it is not a rule of the forum, but a very common treatment on cheaters.

ChuckBuck

hero member

Activity: 1372

Merit: 783

better everyday ♥

Quote from: cheater detector on March 28, 2020, 07:57:29 AM

I want to ask, if there are 2 or many user is applying in same bounties but they don't get accepted by the campaign manager... Did that's case can be said as bounty cheater?

It doesn't matter if it's a forum rule or a campaign rule, but once both accounts of the same person apply to a campaign, both will be excluded, along with a negative feedback for both accounts, the content will be: cheating signatures campaign with multiple accounts. Right at the time when both accounts apply to the same campaign, they violated the rules, no matter if they were accepted or not.

AakZaki

legendary

Activity: 2366

Merit: 1084

zknodes.org

Some managers will give red trust to the perpetrators of fraud in the campaign, because it is really unfair for other users.

It's good if all users find things like what the OP said, to make accusations in the sub reputation, so that DT members give red trust, to give a deterrent effect to the fraud candidates mentioned above.

DdmrDdmr

legendary

Activity: 2338

Merit: 10802

There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain

Quote from: cheater detector on March 28, 2020, 07:57:29 AM

<…>

The forum does not moderate campaigns, and only steps in exceptionally (such as when Yobit some time ago incentivised mass spam on the forum without any kind of control). The rule you mention is therefore not a forum rule, but a campaign rule specific to (at least) Bspin’s campaign. Regardless, many other campaigns may not make explicit this condition, but may act in the same way.

In general, running multiple Alt accounts if allowed, but if they participate in the same campaign, make false conversations, or merit each other, then their behaviour is borderline unethical, and can additionally lead to getting negative trust (although that is not the system’s core intention).

Objectively, participating in the same campaign with multiple accounts is kind of like cheating on the fellow campaign participants, and if anyone is aware of this fact, it should be in their interest to bring the evidence to the campaign's manager.

Shimmiry

full member

Activity: 840

Merit: 105

★Bitvest.io★ Play Plinko or Invest!

Quote from: cheater detector on March 28, 2020, 07:57:29 AM

Hi everyone! Really miss this forum after 9 months I don't visit this forum since June 2019.

According about the forum rules :

Quote

No alt accounts allowed, if it is found out that you are participating in this campaign with alt accounts you will be removed without notice or payment.

I want to ask, if there are 2 or many user is applying in same bounties but they don't get accepted by the campaign manager... Did that's case can be said as bounty cheater?

Because in many case, I usually saw many bounty cheater get exposed when they're already joining the campaign.

Waiting for your answer Grin

That's just an attempt to cheat on bounty. It is already stated that no alt accounts must join the same/single campaign. Although it is stated in the forum rules that multiple account is allowed, it is too greedy to take such actions to at least try to spam a campaign with your alt accounts.

Just simply don't be motivated by the faults of the other users. Instead, report such actions that you might encounter and keep the forum be a clean community with less greedy users.

Csmiami

copper member

Activity: 1652

Merit: 1325

I'm sometimes known as "miniadmin"

Each campaign has its own rules, but they don't usually change much.

Quote

No alt accounts allowed, if it is found out that you are participating in this campaign with alt accounts you will be removed without notice or payment.

I don't recall this as a forum rule, but rather a campaign rule; if you had quoted the place you took it from, it'd be easier to get it in context.

But answering your question, yes, if the campaign rule does not allow multiple accounts and someone tries to participate with multiple accounts, that'd be bounty cheating. You could create a thread on scam accusations/reputation stating the

Facts: in this case bounty cheating
Accounts involved
Some evidence to support your claim
Any other information that may be useful to decide whether red trust should be given or not

Coyster

legendary

Activity: 2184

Merit: 1302

Playbet.io - Crypto Casino and Sportsbook

Quote from: cheater detector on March 28, 2020, 07:57:29 AM

I want to ask, if there are 2 or many user is applying in same bounties but they don't get accepted by the campaign manager... Did that's case can be said as bounty cheater?

Yes, it is an attempt to cheat in the bounty, even if they were not accepted by the bounty manager, they had the intention to participate in the same bounty with two of their accounts, so it's cheating imo, if the two accounts had been accepted, I don't think they would have backed down from it.

cheater detector

member

Activity: 213

Merit: 53

Hi everyone! Really miss this forum after 9 months I don't visit this forum since June 2019.

According about the forum rules :

Quote

No alt accounts allowed, if it is found out that you are participating in this campaign with alt accounts you will be removed without notice or payment.

I want to ask, if there are 2 or many user is applying in same bounties but they don't get accepted by the campaign manager... Did that's case can be said as bounty cheater?

Because in many case, I usually saw many bounty cheater get exposed when they're already joining the campaign.

Waiting for your answer Grin

Topic: 2 User apply in same campaign, it's bounty cheater? (Read 314 times)